Mo Salah

Some big boots to fill but Liverpool are such a well ran club so will likely find a suitable replacement.

He is the best player in the world and by a considerable distance, he has contributed to 60% of all their goals in Premier League this season. He is carrying them on his shoulders.

They will have a tough tough time trying to replace him, whenever he goes. Utd fans should be hoping he fecks off at earliest.
 
Some big boots to fill but Liverpool are such a well ran club so will likely find a suitable replacement.
Players of his caliber don't grow up on trees and he currently has no equivalent.

His departure will leave a massive void in that Liverpool team.
 
Haven’t a clue what it is, but even if you were going mental and offering him £400k a week I think he’d still decline because the Saudis could offer him double that tax free.

He’s 33, he’s got the chance to to make money that will cover his great great great grandchildren. He would be mad not to capitalise on it.

The way he’s been speaking, I don’t get the sense that he wants to go to Saudi yet, regardless of how much money they’re likely offering him. That money will also be there in two years.

Seems to me he wants to stay. I’m just curious why he and Liverpool can’t agree when it’s obvious they want each other for at least another year. And even if he drops off a cliff in 12 months time, I’m sure the Saudis would welcome him with open arms.
 
True, but Liverpool are somehow different in this regard. They just stumble upon some top goalscorers repeatedly. In one of the discussions on Sky, they pointed out that they had Keegan, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez and now, Salah either in succession or with very small gaps between them.

Like another poster said earlier in this thread I think, they're more likely to just buy some unknown 20 year old for 4 million and he'll go on to break all kinds of records.
I don't know about stumble. I think rather than blockbuster names and wonderkids they just go for players who are already proven and look ready to take it up another level, pretty much all their big signings over the years have been in that 24-26 age bracket. If they were to go for an attacker they'll probably target the likes of Mbeumo, Cunha, Marmoush etc.
 
True, but Liverpool are somehow different in this regard. They just stumble upon some top goalscorers repeatedly. In one of the discussions on Sky, they pointed out that they had Keegan, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez and now, Salah either in succession or with very small gaps between them.

Like another poster said earlier in this thread I think, they're more likely to just buy some unknown 20 year old for 4 million and he'll go on to break all kinds of records.

After Owen left they had three straight seasons that were completely barren with hardly a player in double figures and forwards like Kuyt, Crouch, Baros, etc.

They initially replaced Suarez with Markovic, Lallana, Borini, Ings, Benteke, and Firmino. It wasn't for several years that they found Mane and then another year on that they found Salah.

There's no magic there, its the same challenge for everybody.
 
The way he’s been speaking, I don’t get the sense that he wants to go to Saudi yet, regardless of how much money they’re likely offering him. That money will also be there in two years.

Seems to me he wants to stay. I’m just curious why he and Liverpool can’t agree when it’s obvious they want each other for at least another year. And even if he drops off a cliff in 12 months time, I’m sure the Saudis would welcome him with open arms.

What if he suffers a horrific knee injury? Or maybe the price of oil falls through the floor next year and Saudi Arabia decides that they need to tighten up their expenditure for a while. Right now, Saudi Arabia is likely offering him something ridiculous like a billion pounds over five years (ie, Ronaldo-level money). Liverpool obviously can't compete with that but he might feel like he needs a massive offer, probably on a three year deal, to give him enough security to take the risk of leaving the Saudi option for later. And Liverpool just may not be willing to offer that kind of deal to a player that will be 33 in the summer.
 
What if he suffers a horrific knee injury? Saudi Arabia is likely offering him something ridiculous like a billion pounds over five years (ie, Ronaldo-level money). Liverpool obviously can't compete with that but he might feel like he needs a massive offer, probably on a three year deal, to give him enough security to take the risk of leaving the Saudi option for later. And Liverpool just may not be willing to offer that kind of deal to a player that will be 33 in the summer.

True. Which is why I’d like to know the details of the negotiations.
 
After Owen left they had three straight seasons that were completely barren with hardly a player in double figures and forwards like Kuyt, Crouch, Baros, etc.

They initially replaced Suarez with Markovic, Lallana, Borini, Ings, Benteke, and Firmino. It wasn't for several years that they found Mane and then another year on that they found Salah.

There's no magic there, its the same challenge for everybody.
Oh there's magic alright. These barren years you point out after Owen left? They won a fecking European cup. That's how jammy they are.
 
Robertson (23/Hull)
Mac Allister (24/Brighton)
Mane (24/Southampton)
Firmino (24/Hoffenheim)
Jota (24/Wolves)
Fabinho (25/Monaco)
Diaz (25/Porto)
Salah (25/Roma)
Alisson (26/Roma)
van Dijk (26/Southampton)
Wijnaldum (26/Newcastle)

These were hardly hidden gems, Robertson aside perhaps. Some were maybe a little overlooked because of the sides they were playing for which is maybe where others are going wrong. They don't typically go for big names or wonderkids either as that's an often volatile market and big clubs often can't afford to wait around for years while they develop. No strategy is bomb-proof but signing players with a good body of work behind them is probably one of the better ways to go, for the bigger clubs anyway.
 
Robertson (23/Hull)
Mac Allister (24/Brighton)
Mane (24/Southampton)
Firmino (24/Hoffenheim)
Jota (24/Wolves)
Fabinho (25/Monaco)
Diaz (25/Porto)
Salah (25/Roma)
Alisson (26/Roma)
van Dijk (26/Southampton)
Wijnaldum (26/Newcastle)

These were hardly hidden gems, Robertson aside perhaps. Some were maybe a little overlooked because of the sides they were playing for which is maybe where others are going wrong. They don't typically go for big names or wonderkids either as that's an often volatile market and big clubs often can't afford to wait around for years while they develop. No strategy is bomb-proof but signing players with a good body of work behind them is probably one of the better ways to go, for the bigger clubs anyway.

United were strongly linked to Mane, Firmino, Fabhinho, and a bit less to Diaz.

We'll never know, but you can be fairly sure they'd have looked nothing like the player for us that did for Liverpool.
 
I was convinced that he would be staying, but I'm not sure now. Sounds like he might have an offer the club can't match. His agent is in Liverpool this weekend as well. I do think he wants to stay, but is probably thinking about his family.

Would hate to see him go. If we were to lose Van Dijk, Salah & TAA in the same summer, I would expect a drop off next season. Depends what we do in the summer with players coming in, but winning the title without those three is extremely unlikely.
 
True, but Liverpool are somehow different in this regard. They just stumble upon some top goalscorers repeatedly. In one of the discussions on Sky, they pointed out that they had Keegan, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez and now, Salah either in succession or with very small gaps between them.

Like another poster said earlier in this thread I think, they're more likely to just buy some unknown 20 year old for 4 million and he'll go on to break all kinds of records.

Players like Salah are rare and are rarely replaced. To replace his impact they'll need 2 or 3 top signings that can hit the ground running.
 
Players like Salah are rare and are rarely replaced. To replace his impact they'll need 2 or 3 top signings that can hit the ground running.
Of course, logic dictates that it should be near impossible to find another player of that level for a decade at least.

But then I remember that they sold Suarez and within three years, ended up with Salah who wasn't even their manager's first preference.
 
I was convinced that he would be staying, but I'm not sure now. Sounds like he might have an offer the club can't match. His agent is in Liverpool this weekend as well. I do think he wants to stay, but is probably thinking about his family.

Would hate to see him go. If we were to lose Van Dijk, Salah & TAA in the same summer, I would expect a drop off next season. Depends what we do in the summer with players coming in, but winning the title without those three is extremely unlikely.
Fingers crossed, come on Madrid.
 
Robertson (23/Hull)
Mac Allister (24/Brighton)
Mane (24/Southampton)
Firmino (24/Hoffenheim)
Jota (24/Wolves)
Fabinho (25/Monaco)
Diaz (25/Porto)
Salah (25/Roma)
Alisson (26/Roma)
van Dijk (26/Southampton)
Wijnaldum (26/Newcastle)

These were hardly hidden gems, Robertson aside perhaps. Some were maybe a little overlooked because of the sides they were playing for which is maybe where others are going wrong. They don't typically go for big names or wonderkids either as that's an often volatile market and big clubs often can't afford to wait around for years while they develop. No strategy is bomb-proof but signing players with a good body of work behind them is probably one of the better ways to go, for the bigger clubs anyway.
If you go through caf history the sad thing is so many people wanted Mane & VVD in particular + I remember being so sure we would go and get Wijnaldum for the paltry fee they snapped him up for when Newcastle went down. Fabinho was another. I do think there's some definite truth in the idea the glazers wanted 'commercial' signings, that year was the year we brought in Pogba, Ibra and Mkhi when they brought in Wijnaldum and Mane + free Matip. It's not just them either, look at how Villa have bought, buoyed by the Grealish fee, they have signed in high numbers and taken a few risks for smaller fees (Coutinho) but generally will snap up very solid players like Torres, Rogers, Dhuran, Bailey for between £10-£30m. They'd literally all start for us.
 
Everyone thought Suarez was irreplaceable. Salah will be missed but Liverpool are a well run club and so will likely find a suitable replacement.
 
Does anyone think we should play Martinez at LB against Liverpool/Salah?

Dalot offers nothing going forward and will be destroyed by Salah defensively.

I'd rather see Martinez or preferably a returning Shaw vs Salah than Dalot. Nothing against Dalot but he isnt a lwb or a Lb, he cant cross, he can brearly dribble, shoot or pass from that side and when you consider that we have better defensive options than him.
Its unlikely that Amorim will change his tactics but if he is so sure about playing a 5 man defence with players like Mazraoui & Dalot as our wingbacks - we have better defensive players than them.

Id rather bring back Evans to LCB & play Martinez at LB just for this game but its very unlikely.
 
I was convinced that he would be staying, but I'm not sure now. Sounds like he might have an offer the club can't match. His agent is in Liverpool this weekend as well. I do think he wants to stay, but is probably thinking about his family.

Would hate to see him go. If we were to lose Van Dijk, Salah & TAA in the same summer, I would expect a drop off next season. Depends what we do in the summer with players coming in, but winning the title without those three is extremely unlikely.
It feels like posturing a tad but you never know. Do the big double and he may think that he's completed Liverpool.
 
I was convinced that he would be staying, but I'm not sure now. Sounds like he might have an offer the club can't match. His agent is in Liverpool this weekend as well. I do think he wants to stay, but is probably thinking about his family.

Would hate to see him go. If we were to lose Van Dijk, Salah & TAA in the same summer, I would expect a drop off next season. Depends what we do in the summer with players coming in, but winning the title without those three is extremely unlikely.

I’m not so sure. Generally when a player intends to leave (Mane for example), they keep quiet about it. The very fact that Salah is constantly talking to the media indicates to me that he wants to stay, and is pressuring the club by speaking directly to the fans. If he had an offer from Saudi why on earth would he be doing all these interviews?
 
Robertson (23/Hull)
Mac Allister (24/Brighton)
Mane (24/Southampton)
Firmino (24/Hoffenheim)
Jota (24/Wolves)
Fabinho (25/Monaco)
Diaz (25/Porto)
Salah (25/Roma)
Alisson (26/Roma)
van Dijk (26/Southampton)
Wijnaldum (26/Newcastle)

These were hardly hidden gems, Robertson aside perhaps. Some were maybe a little overlooked because of the sides they were playing for which is maybe where others are going wrong. They don't typically go for big names or wonderkids either as that's an often volatile market and big clubs often can't afford to wait around for years while they develop. No strategy is bomb-proof but signing players with a good body of work behind them is probably one of the better ways to go, for the bigger clubs anyway.
Aside to statistics, Liverpool (FSG) is borderline obsessed with signing player who is captain material, those with strong mentality.
Even fringe players who have been let go like Emre Can, captain his next club and achieve relative success.
I think this is sometimes a point which is overlooked by other big teams competing for top spots in the league.
Having talents is bare minimum requirements in EPL, but having drive and determination to succeed is what sets apart good players and winners.
 
Last edited:
Aside to statistics, Liverpool (FSG) is borderline obsessed with signing player who is captain material, those with strong mentality.
Even fringe players who have been let go like Emre Can, captain his next club and achieve relative success.
I think this is sometimes a point which is overlooked by other big teams competing for top spots in the league.
Having talents is bare minimum requirements in EPL, but having drive and determination to succeed is what sets apart good players and winners.
Top post, end of the day in the "best" league in the World, talent is only part of the equation. Determination, drive and self confidence are a requirement for talent to thrive
 
We need a witch doctor to activate a voodoo doll on Salah today. Easily the best player in the PL, maybe the world, right now. If he's up for it, we will struggle. He's probably the only player for Liverpool (maybe Torres at the top of his game) that I wished played for United. Class player.
 
We need a witch doctor to activate a voodoo doll on Salah today. Easily the best player in the PL, maybe the world, right now. If he's up for it, we will struggle. He's probably the only player for Liverpool (maybe Torres at the top of his game) that I wished played for United. Class player.
@Pogue Mahone

Wasnt being a witch doctor you're speciality once?
 
Odds on him scoring today? Probably below one for creating admin hassle for the bookies.
 
Whoever we have at left back I rarely feel Salah causes them much direct trouble. Same again today.

But then he scores.
 
Incredible season but all this talk about a humble man he seems to get. That celebration is incredibly arrogant, in a game he wasn't great. Best moment was that pass to MacAllister. He got the ball so much but didn't do anything and then celebrated like that after a penalty.
 
Didn't do much but gets bailed out through a jammy penalty,not the first time this season too.
 
3 of the added minutes were for his celebration. Did nothing except a lucky penalty.
Terrible penalty too. Onana got a touch and could have saved that.

Didn't understand why our players back off him and allowed him to carry into the box.
 
Strangely, he's always seemed to turn up at OT more often than he does at Anfield against us.
 
Can't wait until he's fecks off to Saudi. It will expose how mediocre the rest of the Liverpool attack are. 'Did nothing' yet still scored and put a second on a silver platter for Macallister to miss.