@Sandikan was responding to another poster who was talking about fans using non-related rods to bash a player's success and underachievement.
Not sure why you've taken offense to it.
Mo Salah
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Not sure why you've taken offense to it.
His dribbling is good to watch, very Messi-like. Also he's back to his best.
Someone said something similar earlier but I feel the same as Eddy. I'm not sure they have the same dribbling style. Both are left footed with a low center of gravity who can change directions quickly, but I dont necessarily think they look alike when they dribble. Salah seems slightly less fluid, for some reason. But still as good.
Salah doesn't change direction quickly. He has a herky jerky style and his first step is really explosive, but he doesn't have the agility, lateral speed and fluidity of Messi
He's closer to someone like Robben or Bale
He's closer to someone like Robben or Bale
I really would say he's very different to both and much closer to Messi. He doesn't rely on speed and power like bale, and he isn't as 1 footed as Robben.
He's closer to ribery in dribbling.
Suarez would have been better if he'd focused a bit less on his teeth
13/14 suarez has the highest number of goals and assists per game in a single prem season,without even taking pens(45 goals/assists in 33 prem games).Even 17/18 salah was not as consistant as that in the prem( but he scored or assisted 58 times,without pens, in the prem and ucl that season ,which is comparable)
Suarez had a 26% conversion rate( 1 in 4 shots) which is crazy,especially given that he enjoyed shooting from long range very often.
Suarez scored week in,week out,and against all teams he faced,from 12/13 and 13/14 for lfc,then for afew seasons at barca.Add to this the fact that his all round play and quality of goals were amazing(scoring a bullet header from the 18 yard line,dinking it over a defender before half volleying it it etc)and it is clear that he was the most unstoppable attacking player that the prem has had.
One could argue this is a stronger league compared to Suarez’s time.
With that side, it’s hard to compare a striker to a RW when they both have different attributes. I’d say Salah edges it for me, just an insane player who keeps improving. Never rated him earlier on but you can’t deny quality.
With that side, it’s hard to compare a striker to a RW when they both have different attributes. I’d say Salah edges it for me, just an insane player who keeps improving. Never rated him earlier on but you can’t deny quality.
14 away from going ahead of Andy Cole and moving into 4th for prem scorers.
Was gonna joke and say he will probably get that next week, but 20 games left. He should move into that position at the end of the season which is insane.
26 away from 200. If he stays one more season, going into second place is achievable too.
Was gonna joke and say he will probably get that next week, but 20 games left. He should move into that position at the end of the season which is insane.
26 away from 200. If he stays one more season, going into second place is achievable too.
Id defo say that defenders and goal keepers are worse now than during Suarez time. Lower teams might be better overall however
Salah is godly
But team defending is better now, more organised with better structure. Though it is easier to score now due to how attacking is also more structured. Just a rapidly changing game.
Goalkeepers maybe, defenders? No chance. The "good" defenders were Gary Cahill, Demichelis, Distin, 50 year old Terry, Skrtel...the average quality quality of the players was weak, not just the teams as a whole. Seriously, the PL was at roughly the current level of Ligue1 back then
He's already reached Vini's 37 G/A of last season and it's not even January yet. Individual seasons like the one he's having right now don't happen very often unless your name is Messi, Ronaldo, or Suárez.
(I do think he'll slightly drop off, though.)
(I do think he'll slightly drop off, though.)
Twisting the truth a bit therei
During Suarez period you still had the likes of Rio, Vidic, Terry, Kompany, Vermealen, Vertonghen...
Nope. We're talking about the 13/14 season here. And Vertonghen and Vermaelen, really? Did the latter even manage to stay fit enough to play a full game post 2013?
Also the defenders mentioned are like 3/4 teams, the league as a whole has better defenders now.
AHH okies just the one season. My mistake thought we meant during his tenure rather than his best season
Looks like he's leaving at the end of the season, I'll believe it when I see it
Tweets claiming that he "confirmed" his departure seem to be misrepresenting the interview. But he certainly didn't seem optimistic about his likelihood of staying, basically saying that he and the club weren't anywhere close to an agreement.
At the end of the day, the gap between what he would need from Liverpool to turn down a massive Saudi offer and what the club seem to be offering may be just unbridgeable.
At the end of the day, the gap between what he would need from Liverpool to turn down a massive Saudi offer and what the club seem to be offering may be just unbridgeable.
He obviously wants to stay and can’t contain himself that they aren’t offering a decent deal. Reading the interview, he definitely isn’t announcing he is leaving, he is voicing his frustration that terms aren’t even close.
Imagine if Arne needs to take Liverpool into a new era without their 3 biggest players.
Imagine if Arne needs to take Liverpool into a new era without their 3 biggest players.
Salah is currently top 3 player in the world me thinks. I also don't think he will drop off the cliff in the next season or two. Will be very happy if Liverpool lose him.
I think he’s just keen not to be seen as a mercenary. Saudi’s are going to be making an offer to make him richer than God and at his age he’d be stupid to turn it down and Liverpool would be stupid to try to match it.
Honestly I think it’s worked out well for them, they could have got £150m+ for him in transfer fees, instead he’s leaving on a free and in return he’s leading them to their holy grail. Fair enough.
Ramy Abbas, Salah's agent, is due to visit Anfield on Sunday to watch the match. Abbas rarely visits Liverpool so the meeting seems significant, either to sign a new contract with Liverpool or discuss proposals from other clubs. Salah is currently earning £18.5M, Harry Kane is on £21M and Christian Ronaldo £173M. If Saudi are in the frame I imagine Salah will leave.
Does he make the top 10 of Egyptians best ever players ?
I don’t like the way he and his team conduct themselves during contract negotiations.
I think he might just scrape his way in yes
Yep, . TBH he has conducted himself really well.
He probably has a Saudi tax free deal just sitting there offering £1m a week or more, and he's just trying to get Liverpool to squeeze the 350k a week up a little and for say 3-4 years
Which would be an insane deal for Liverpool to sign off for a guy 33 in the summer.
Which would be an insane deal for Liverpool to sign off for a guy 33 in the summer.
Yeah. I'd have him third. Just behind Ibrahim Said and Wael Reyad.
Piss off and good riddance
Some big boots to fill but Liverpool are such a well ran club so will likely find a suitable replacement.
Could be a move to make Liverpool cave in to demands - he's in top form and probably the best player in the world atm, so leverage is on his side at this moment.
I’d love to know the details of what’s being offered and asked for.
It doesn’t look good whatever it is.
It doesn’t look good whatever it is.
They always manage to get somebody unfortunately. Even during some of their worst years they still had Torres and Suarez.
At Liverpool fans can blame Trent & Salah if they mess up the title this season.
Haven’t a clue what it is, but even if you were going mental and offering him £400k a week I think he’d still decline because the Saudis could offer him double that tax free.
He’s 33, he’s got the chance to to make money that will cover his great great great grandchildren. He would be mad not to capitalise on it.
I am not sure. He seems genuinely frustrated. I think he would prefer to be involved in the hunt for big prizes at a club where he is a legend. He is just as valuable to the Saudi’s at 35 and would command the same wages.
Maybe it it just to seem like it was a mutual thing, but I think it’s early for him to go, especially after, what will be, his most productive season.
He makes the list but doesn't challenge the two kings, Hossam Hassan and Mido
Always tough to replace one of the best in the world.
Look at other clubs that have been generally well run and their attempts to buy top class attacking players recently.
City is a very well run club and the only world class forward they've managed to buy in the last five years was an obvious one in Haaland - Doku, Grealish, Savio, Alvarez, Ferran, etc. Lots of good players but nobody really top drawer.
Arsenal have been a well run club and while they haven't spent heavily on attackers none of the ones they've bought have been anwhere near top class - Havertz, Jesus, Trossard, etc.
After Hazard left, across a couple different ownerships Chelsea has bought around 12-13 attackers to land on one with real world class ability in Palmer.
Liverpool themselves have spent close to 200m on five attackers that are nowhere near Salah's level (and aren't as good as Mane was either) in Nunez, Diaz, Gakpo, Jota, and Chiesa.
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True, but Liverpool are somehow different in this regard. They just stumble upon some top goalscorers repeatedly. In one of the discussions on Sky, they pointed out that they had Keegan, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez and now, Salah either in succession or with very small gaps between them.
Like another poster said earlier in this thread I think, they're more likely to just buy some unknown 20 year old for 4 million and he'll go on to break all kinds of records.