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Last Man Standing finalist 2021/22
To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
Don’t forget AFCON18 starts - 17 goals and 13 assists. Just wow!
We didn't? We rejected huge offers from Saudi, it wasn't close.To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
Not happening this season.Don’t forget AFCON
We haven’t had that problem for a long time now. If anything we’re now the Madrid retirement house.To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
You dithered like mad before finally offering him a figure near what he’s worth.We didn't? We rejected huge offers from Saudi, it wasn't close.
Not happening this season.
We haven’t had anybody worth nicking!We haven’t had that problem for a long time now. If anything we’re now the Madrid retirement house.
Other than Ronaldo, who’ve they nicked that we wanted to keep?We haven’t had anybody worth nicking!
For one year definitely, maybe two, or three at a stretch. It’s Salah’s consistency over 8 years and longevity which puts him clear of Suarez imo but that 13-14 season was really something else, never had that feeling of awe about Salah until perhaps this season and his first.I disagree. I think Suarez was at that level, just in a worse team.
I know. It’s a reference to something else…Not happening this season.
People who say Giggs and Rooney underachieved really are insufferable.
Probably the types who constant mock Ronaldo with Messi taunts.
Suarez had consistency too - if you combine his Liverpool, Barcelona and Atletico seasons.For one year definitely, maybe two, or three at a stretch. It’s Salah’s consistency over 8 years and longevity which puts him clear of Suarez imo but that 13-14 season was really something else, never had that feeling of awe about Salah until perhaps this season and his first.
18 starts - 17 goals and 13 assists. Just wow!
Suarez did not have the help that Salah had. Salah had a proper functioning midfield, a world class back line and a world class keeper. The only comparable if the supporting cast in attack, where Suarez has Sterling and Sturridge. Liverpool absolutely banged the goals in for fun that season, but were let down by atrocious defending. And Suarez did all that having missed the first 8 or so games of the season with suspension. That Suarez season was unreal - I still think it is the best single player performance in the PL era. If Suarez hadn’t been done for racism, Liverpool may well have won the whole thing that season.
Yeah and Champions League. I was just going off the league stats.Don’t forget AFCON
Why exclude Ronaldo? It’s debatable how much Heinze or Beckham actually wanted to leave, but Ruud wanted out - he even asked for a Madrid clause in his contract. It just so happens Fergie saw his arse and benched him first. Then you’ve got the constant unsettling of any decent players we do have like De Gea or Pogba.Other than Ronaldo, who’ve they nicked that we wanted to keep?
Why exclude Ronaldo?
That’s why I excluded him. He obviously fits the description.To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
SAF didn’t want to keep Beckham. I agree with the messing around of De Gea.It’s debatable how much Heinze or Beckham actually wanted to leave, but Ruud wanted out - he even asked for a Madrid clause in his contract. It just so happens Fergie saw his arse and benched him first. Then you’ve got the constant unsettling of any decent players we do have like De Gea or Pogba.
Getting his arm broken by a Madrid icon may not have endeared the club to him. But that’s a fair point in general about City players being out of bounds for Madrid but other teams’ players not.Them never coming in for city’s Spanish players sort of made sense because of whatever money they must’ve been getting under the table. But Liverpool only put Salah above 200k 18 months ago!
Coutinho, Sterling and especially Sturridge who was ridiculous that season also helped a lot.Because Suarez almost single handedly dragged them to a league title. Salah has been utterly superb but also has and has had a far better supporting cast.
You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.Except he didn't really do that single handidly. Daniel Sturridge scored 22 and assistent 7 that season in the league. Given his goals was more spread out than Suarez' he was pretty much as important to that title charge.
While this certainly is possible, it has to be said that Liverpool didn't really improve when he got back. Suarez missed 5 matches, where they got 10 points, and they pretty much held that exact point average (they sat at 47 points after 24 games) until they went on their almost title winning run between fixtures 25 and 35. Suarez insane scoring form was mainly before this run, where he scored 23 goals in his first 18 matches of the season, and then just 8 in the last 15. Now I'm not saying that it wasn't one of the best individual seasons of the PL era, it was, but his teammate Daniel Sturridge scored in more games than he did in this season (while playing less matches).Suarez did not have the help that Salah had. Salah had a proper functioning midfield, a world class back line and a world class keeper. The only comparable if the supporting cast in attack, where Suarez has Sterling and Sturridge. Liverpool absolutely banged the goals in for fun that season, but were let down by atrocious defending. And Suarez did all that having missed the first 8 or so games of the season with suspension. That Suarez season was unreal - I still think it is the best single player performance in the PL era. If Suarez hadn’t been done for racism, Liverpool may well have won the whole thing that season.
Sturridge kept them in it with crucial goals in low scoring matches before Suarez returned. I remember him scoring against us at Anfield.You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.
If you take Suarez out of that team then they're not getting close to that title.Sturridge kept them in it with crucial goals in low scoring matches before Suarez returned. I remember him scoring against us at Anfield.
No doubt. But Sturridge scored in 20 games that season, that shouldn't be underestimated. He also had a lot of crucial goal contributions in close matches. If they had a worse player there, they wouldn't have come close to winning the title.You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.
Oh, absolutely. And likewise for Sturridge, is all I’m saying.If you take Suarez out of that team then they're not getting close to that title.
What a daft post when the last 2 pages have been around all sorts of themes on the fringes of the subject of Salah.No idea what this thread has to do with the 8 time Ballon D'or winner and the 5 time ballon D'or winner. It's a Salah thread!
18 starts - 17 goals and 13 assists. Just wow!
Sturridge's points-per-goal ratio must be close to the best in the EPL. He never seemed to score unnecessary goals.No doubt. But Sturridge scored in 20 games that season, that shouldn't be underestimated. He also had a lot of crucial goal contributions in close matches. If they had a worse player there, they wouldn't have come close to winning the title.
What a daft post when the last 2 pages have been around all sorts of themes on the fringes of the subject of Salah.
What's your problem on a thread people are on about Giggs, Suarez and numerous other players?Do you have problems with reading comprehension? What does the thread have to do with Messi and Ronaldo? What a random non-sequiter in your post.
As an egyptian barcelona supporter do you still see Messi as the best player ever to your own eyes? I know alot of middle eastern people value what Salah has bought to those countries, almost making football grow in popularity to a whole continent by himself.
Messi had a fantastic career, no doubt the best - but Salah seems to have always had the harder test.
Argentina vs Egypt
Barcelona vs Liverpool
La Liga vs PL
Guardiola vs Klopp
Xavi & iniesta vs Macalisster & Szboszlai
PSG stats vs PL stats post 30
I hope no one gets mad me talking about Messi because people protect the guy like their kid in front of a train but i'd like to know how an egyptian barcelona supporter see's Messi & Salah respectively.
Yeah true, I wouldn’t know who to pick when comparing them overall. I was talking about their stints at Liverpool.Suarez had consistency too - if you combine his Liverpool, Barcelona and Atletico seasons.
What's your problem on a thread people are on about Giggs, Suarez and numerous other players?
What's your beef with my post versus almost every other post on this page and last? Bizarre stuff.
Truly bizarre. Can't be wasting any more time on this.No idea what your childish tantrum was about. I asked what the random post whinging about Ronaldo getting taunted had to do with Salah?
You're response was an emotional post calling the question daft). The only thing bizarre is the sequence of posts you've made here on a Salah thread.
Truly bizarre. Can't be wasting any more time on this.
Suarez is a disgusting human being though.Yeah true, I wouldn’t know who to pick when comparing them overall. I was talking about their stints at Liverpool.
Suarez had more “magic” moments while Salah looks more like a robotic machine.
Truly bizarre. Can't be wasting any more time on this.
Can you both cut it out?Who's making you? Go clog up another thread crying about poor Ronaldo getting taunted
Suarez scored 31 without penalties in a season Liverpool took like 12(hence Gerrard scoring a lot). Imagine if he'd taken penalties, he'd have broken 40 league goals. While missing the first 5 games through suspension. It was in a weak PL, but he also did that for Brentan on a team that until the last 10 games or so - when Sterling and Coutinho started coming good - was basically him and Sturridge, when the latter wasm't injured, trying to outscore their own defence
That season and Cristiano in 07/08 are the two best players the PL has ever seen.