Mo Salah

To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
 
To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
We haven’t had that problem for a long time now. If anything we’re now the Madrid retirement house.
 
We didn't? We rejected huge offers from Saudi, it wasn't close.

Not happening this season.
You dithered like mad before finally offering him a figure near what he’s worth.
We haven’t had that problem for a long time now. If anything we’re now the Madrid retirement house.
We haven’t had anybody worth nicking!
 
Suarez did not have the help that Salah had. Salah had a proper functioning midfield, a world class back line and a world class keeper. The only comparable if the supporting cast in attack, where Suarez has Sterling and Sturridge. Liverpool absolutely banged the goals in for fun that season, but were let down by atrocious defending. And Suarez did all that having missed the first 8 or so games of the season with suspension. That Suarez season was unreal - I still think it is the best single player performance in the PL era. If Suarez hadn’t been done for racism, Liverpool may well have won the whole thing that season.
 
I disagree. I think Suarez was at that level, just in a worse team.
For one year definitely, maybe two, or three at a stretch. It’s Salah’s consistency over 8 years and longevity which puts him clear of Suarez imo but that 13-14 season was really something else, never had that feeling of awe about Salah until perhaps this season and his first.
 
People who say Giggs and Rooney underachieved really are insufferable.

Probably the types who constant mock Ronaldo with Messi taunts.

No idea what this thread has to do with the 8 time Ballon D'or winner and the 5 time ballon D'or winner. It's a Salah thread!
 
For one year definitely, maybe two, or three at a stretch. It’s Salah’s consistency over 8 years and longevity which puts him clear of Suarez imo but that 13-14 season was really something else, never had that feeling of awe about Salah until perhaps this season and his first.
Suarez had consistency too - if you combine his Liverpool, Barcelona and Atletico seasons.
 
Suarez did not have the help that Salah had. Salah had a proper functioning midfield, a world class back line and a world class keeper. The only comparable if the supporting cast in attack, where Suarez has Sterling and Sturridge. Liverpool absolutely banged the goals in for fun that season, but were let down by atrocious defending. And Suarez did all that having missed the first 8 or so games of the season with suspension. That Suarez season was unreal - I still think it is the best single player performance in the PL era. If Suarez hadn’t been done for racism, Liverpool may well have won the whole thing that season.

What about club legend Henderson, club icon Gerrard (13 goals, 13 assists) and soon to be £140m man Coutinho(5+7 from 28 apps)?
 
Other than Ronaldo, who’ve they nicked that we wanted to keep?
Why exclude Ronaldo? It’s debatable how much Heinze or Beckham actually wanted to leave, but Ruud wanted out - he even asked for a Madrid clause in his contract. It just so happens Fergie saw his arse and benched him first. Then you’ve got the constant unsettling of any decent players we do have like De Gea or Pogba.

Them never coming in for city’s Spanish players sort of made sense because of whatever money they must’ve been getting under the table. But Liverpool only put Salah above 200k 18 months ago!
 
Why exclude Ronaldo?
To think they almost let him go to Saudi. Why Madrid didn’t come in for him 6 years ago, like they seem to with every fecking world class player we get, is beyond me.
That’s why I excluded him. He obviously fits the description.
It’s debatable how much Heinze or Beckham actually wanted to leave, but Ruud wanted out - he even asked for a Madrid clause in his contract. It just so happens Fergie saw his arse and benched him first. Then you’ve got the constant unsettling of any decent players we do have like De Gea or Pogba.
SAF didn’t want to keep Beckham. I agree with the messing around of De Gea.
Them never coming in for city’s Spanish players sort of made sense because of whatever money they must’ve been getting under the table. But Liverpool only put Salah above 200k 18 months ago!
Getting his arm broken by a Madrid icon may not have endeared the club to him. But that’s a fair point in general about City players being out of bounds for Madrid but other teams’ players not.
 
Except he didn't really do that single handidly. Daniel Sturridge scored 22 and assistent 7 that season in the league. Given his goals was more spread out than Suarez' he was pretty much as important to that title charge.
You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.
 
Suarez did not have the help that Salah had. Salah had a proper functioning midfield, a world class back line and a world class keeper. The only comparable if the supporting cast in attack, where Suarez has Sterling and Sturridge. Liverpool absolutely banged the goals in for fun that season, but were let down by atrocious defending. And Suarez did all that having missed the first 8 or so games of the season with suspension. That Suarez season was unreal - I still think it is the best single player performance in the PL era. If Suarez hadn’t been done for racism, Liverpool may well have won the whole thing that season.
While this certainly is possible, it has to be said that Liverpool didn't really improve when he got back. Suarez missed 5 matches, where they got 10 points, and they pretty much held that exact point average (they sat at 47 points after 24 games) until they went on their almost title winning run between fixtures 25 and 35. Suarez insane scoring form was mainly before this run, where he scored 23 goals in his first 18 matches of the season, and then just 8 in the last 15. Now I'm not saying that it wasn't one of the best individual seasons of the PL era, it was, but his teammate Daniel Sturridge scored in more games than he did in this season (while playing less matches).
 
You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.
Sturridge kept them in it with crucial goals in low scoring matches before Suarez returned. I remember him scoring against us at Anfield.
 
Sturridge kept them in it with crucial goals in low scoring matches before Suarez returned. I remember him scoring against us at Anfield.
If you take Suarez out of that team then they're not getting close to that title.
 
You'll get supporting players who get boosted due to that one standout player. If you rewatch that 13-14 season you'll see just how much of an absolute titan of a solo season it was.
No doubt. But Sturridge scored in 20 games that season, that shouldn't be underestimated. He also had a lot of crucial goal contributions in close matches. If they had a worse player there, they wouldn't have come close to winning the title.
 
No idea what this thread has to do with the 8 time Ballon D'or winner and the 5 time ballon D'or winner. It's a Salah thread!
What a daft post when the last 2 pages have been around all sorts of themes on the fringes of the subject of Salah.
 
No doubt. But Sturridge scored in 20 games that season, that shouldn't be underestimated. He also had a lot of crucial goal contributions in close matches. If they had a worse player there, they wouldn't have come close to winning the title.
Sturridge's points-per-goal ratio must be close to the best in the EPL. He never seemed to score unnecessary goals.
 
What a daft post when the last 2 pages have been around all sorts of themes on the fringes of the subject of Salah.

Do you have problems with reading comprehension? What does the thread have to do with Messi and Ronaldo? What a random non-sequiter in your post.
 
Do you have problems with reading comprehension? What does the thread have to do with Messi and Ronaldo? What a random non-sequiter in your post.
What's your problem on a thread people are on about Giggs, Suarez and numerous other players?
What's your beef with my post versus almost every other post on this page and last? Some mentioning Ronaldo as well. Bizarre stuff.
 
As an egyptian barcelona supporter do you still see Messi as the best player ever to your own eyes? I know alot of middle eastern people value what Salah has bought to those countries, almost making football grow in popularity to a whole continent by himself.

Messi had a fantastic career, no doubt the best - but Salah seems to have always had the harder test.

Argentina vs Egypt
Barcelona vs Liverpool
La Liga vs PL
Guardiola vs Klopp
Xavi & iniesta vs Macalisster & Szboszlai
PSG stats vs PL stats post 30

I hope no one gets mad me talking about Messi because people protect the guy like their kid in front of a train but i'd like to know how an egyptian barcelona supporter see's Messi & Salah respectively.

You picked the wrong guy. I'd also protect Leo like he's my brother, and family trumps country ;)
On a serious note, Messi is in a league of his own. He’s the G.O.A.T. with all the skills Salah possesses and more. He’s been performing at the highest level consistently, since he was five years or professionally, since he was 16/17—and for two decades now!

Salah is brilliant and I love him but he doesn't transcend players like R9, Pele, Diego and Leo. His CV is still lacking a bit. TBH, I think there is an element of knee-jerk reaction here, partly 'cause Messi is not in the same kind of European spotlight anymore.
Your question makes it sound like Mo is already the GOAT or a GOAT contender, or at worse second to Messi. He's not. As much as I love Mo, there's a wide gap between the two, and I don't think it will ever be filled. He can get close though, may be make it to top 20 or 10 players? of all time, but to do that, he needs to win more trophies and, unfortunately for him (and us), lead a mediocre Egyptian team to glory.
 
Suarez had consistency too - if you combine his Liverpool, Barcelona and Atletico seasons.
Yeah true, I wouldn’t know who to pick when comparing them overall. I was talking about their stints at Liverpool.

Suarez had more “magic” moments while Salah looks more like a robotic machine.
 
What's your problem on a thread people are on about Giggs, Suarez and numerous other players?
What's your beef with my post versus almost every other post on this page and last? Bizarre stuff.

No idea what your childish tantrum was about. I asked what the random post whinging about Ronaldo getting taunted had to do with Salah?

You're response was an emotional post calling the question daft). The only thing bizarre is the sequence of posts you've made here on a Salah thread.
 
No idea what your childish tantrum was about. I asked what the random post whinging about Ronaldo getting taunted had to do with Salah?

You're response was an emotional post calling the question daft). The only thing bizarre is the sequence of posts you've made here on a Salah thread.
Truly bizarre. Can't be wasting any more time on this.
:lol:
 
Suarez scored 31 without penalties in a season Liverpool took like 12(hence Gerrard scoring a lot). Imagine if he'd taken penalties, he'd have broken 40 league goals. While missing the first 5 games through suspension. It was in a weak PL, but he also did that for Brentan on a team that until the last 10 games or so - when Sterling and Coutinho started coming good - was basically him and Sturridge, when the latter wasm't injured, trying to outscore their own defence

That season and Cristiano in 07/08 are the two best players the PL has ever seen.
 
Suarez scored 31 without penalties in a season Liverpool took like 12(hence Gerrard scoring a lot). Imagine if he'd taken penalties, he'd have broken 40 league goals. While missing the first 5 games through suspension. It was in a weak PL, but he also did that for Brentan on a team that until the last 10 games or so - when Sterling and Coutinho started coming good - was basically him and Sturridge, when the latter wasm't injured, trying to outscore their own defence

That season and Cristiano in 07/08 are the two best players the PL has ever seen.

Seems fair. He'd have needed to score 9 of 12 and he wasn't a bad penalty taker. Still not sure how he compares to Henry in his prime (regarding your last sentence).