They should get Bowen.
Mo Salah
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There’s a serious underestimation of Salah’s contribution to Liverpool in this thread; like people know he’s good but not that good.
He plays at a level where two players are likely to struggle carrying his net contribution to the team let alone one.
You’ll need a Cole Palmer type to pop up and never drop in form from the best we’ve seen of him, to match Salah as a single entity.
Salah is outrageously consistent to the point his bottom level is great form for others and his good to great form is only touched upon by a handful of players in the world. That’s the bar to meet when talking about Salah and outside of a shooting star or random pop up glitch like the next Cole Palmer, Liverpool will be left with the kind of hole in the team we has when dropping down to Valencia from Ronaldo.
He plays at a level where two players are likely to struggle carrying his net contribution to the team let alone one.
You’ll need a Cole Palmer type to pop up and never drop in form from the best we’ve seen of him, to match Salah as a single entity.
Salah is outrageously consistent to the point his bottom level is great form for others and his good to great form is only touched upon by a handful of players in the world. That’s the bar to meet when talking about Salah and outside of a shooting star or random pop up glitch like the next Cole Palmer, Liverpool will be left with the kind of hole in the team we has when dropping down to Valencia from Ronaldo.
Exactly - they will find it near impossible to replace him. I think it would require a re-build at the front three to assure more goals from all three forwards.
Liverpool have gone through a spate of striking gold whenever they’ve needed to replace any of their forward players:
Torres, Suarez, Mane, Salah, Diaz etc.
Hope the next one is a flop (obviously won’t come close to replicating Salah’s numbers)
Torres, Suarez, Mane, Salah, Diaz etc.
Hope the next one is a flop (obviously won’t come close to replicating Salah’s numbers)
Salah had multiple seasons scoring 22-23 goals in the league. And 1x 32 goals
Do you seriously believe Bryan Mbeumo can do that?
An above average winger who'd probably morph into peak Ronaldo knowing their luck.
Whereas we'll buy Amorim"s best past player and he'll make Antony look a player.
Think that is harsh on Bowen. He's a very good player.
I agree with you - Bowen is a fantastic player and I'd be happy with him as a potential replacement. He won't replace Salah, but if we also bring in a more clinical forward, or Jota hits an injury-free run, then he'd be a great asset!
Might not be a contest…I don’t really pay it too much attention.
But I wonder who their fans prefer. Suarez or Salah. Recency bias would of course be in full swing but they absolutely idolised the hungry Uruguayan
They’re really gonna struggle to find similar quality on that right side once he’s gone
But I wonder who their fans prefer. Suarez or Salah. Recency bias would of course be in full swing but they absolutely idolised the hungry Uruguayan
They’re really gonna struggle to find similar quality on that right side once he’s gone
The solution is obvious: they have to sign Lamine Yamal
Well Salah wasn't Salah until he became Salah either. Prior to that his best return was 15, which Mbeumo might match or better this season.
In terms of profile he fits the kind of player Liverpool have targeted in the past. Players performing to an already decent level but go underappreciated because of the club they play for and their age. Everyone else is looking for the next 19-20yr old wonderkid but sometimes it's better to buy the adult who's ready to take the next step.
It's obviously a long-shot to say Mbeumo could reach that level of output but then no one expected it of Salah himself either when Liverpool signed him. In terms of realistic options I don't think it's the worst shout. Feel free to put forward some other names.
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They were able to replace Suárez with the signing of Salah. So I'm sure they can do it again.
I think it’s mad, verging on disrespectful, if they don’t offer him a deal. He is among their greatest ever players and if it means having him coming on in games at 35 on the last year of a quite expensive deal, so be it.
Look at Lewandowski and Salah is arguably in even better shape and rarely injured. He doesn’t drink, is a family man and a model professional.
You give a player like that the benefit of the doubt and are grateful to have him. No other player in the squad even comes close in terms of what they have done for the club. Even van Dijk had low points, this guy is consistently brilliant.
Look at Lewandowski and Salah is arguably in even better shape and rarely injured. He doesn’t drink, is a family man and a model professional.
You give a player like that the benefit of the doubt and are grateful to have him. No other player in the squad even comes close in terms of what they have done for the club. Even van Dijk had low points, this guy is consistently brilliant.
I dont think they should just focus targeting a world class RW to replace Salah; there isnt really that many.
The best way of replacing Salah is to maybe get a LW like Khvicha Kvaratskhelia & get someone on the level of Diaz at RW which is more achievable.
Salah's stats are insane and to directly replace him with just another RW of the same ilk is going to be exceptionally hard or near impossible - like it or not Salah is/was a generational talent.
I think an example is how Suarez as a striker was actually replaced by a world class RW. To replace Salah they should be looking at the next best striker, LW or RW to try and replace Salah's integrity to the club.
The best way of replacing Salah is to maybe get a LW like Khvicha Kvaratskhelia & get someone on the level of Diaz at RW which is more achievable.
Salah's stats are insane and to directly replace him with just another RW of the same ilk is going to be exceptionally hard or near impossible - like it or not Salah is/was a generational talent.
I think an example is how Suarez as a striker was actually replaced by a world class RW. To replace Salah they should be looking at the next best striker, LW or RW to try and replace Salah's integrity to the club.
No. Thats also my answer to the question
No name and no they cant replace him. They'll have to try and probably will find someone who can offer half, in the meantime maybe Diaz can go up another level and get more goals and assists.
I’d love to know what his demands are. They must be crazy if we haven’t even made an offer when we’re so reliant on him and there’s no way of replacing him.
They will have to find a new way of playing for a while. They have actually done a good job of replacing Firmino and Sane, do they go for Dembele or someone like that, or pick another hard-working hard-running attacker with potential?
If this is the solution, they are better off paying Salah what he wants because you're not getting that guy for much less that what Salah probably wants, plus the the cost of purchase on top. Then there's the risk he doesn't settle, whilst Salah is arguably the best player in the league and is the most consistent performer in it, bar none.
Too much upheaval and risk at that kind of price point.
That's not a real replacement.
How so?
Not close to the same level.
I also think us letting Salah’s, Van Dijk’s and Trent’s contracts run out at the same time is making it even more difficult as they’ll all look at whoever makes the first signature and say, “I deserve whatever he’s getting”.
Seriously? Saka is a World Class player. Not that it will happen, but Liverpool fans should be delighted if they were to sign him.
They would be happy, but wouldn't have close to the same impact.
He's literally the best player they could possibly replace Salah with. I don't think they'd notice much of a drop off with Saka.
There isn't a single player at this moment that could replace Salah's efficiency and output, and their level will drop tremendously once he is gone, no matter who they replace him with.
Saka's career best goal tally for a league campaign doesn't match Salah's worst, where he got 18 in 32 games.
The difference on that front alone is stark. Salah guarantees goals throughout a campaign against any team under any conditions.
As good as Saka is, Salah is a level or even two up. Salah is contesting for the best RW on the planet, still. Saka's not there when push comes to shove.
So what is the point in the discussion? If everyone is agreeing with the idea that the second best right sided forward in the world is nowhere near as good as the best, then what is the point? Arsenal have to struggle on by with Saka instead of Salah and they seem to cope just fine.
Saka isn't the 2nd best, would kind of be the point, but! We're talking about what is an immense contribution from Salah to the point I think it's not really taken on board because it's so routine as to feel redundant that he scores 20+ goals a campaign before even counting overall goal involvements.
It'd be very difficult to replace him with one player, imo of course.
What has saka won with arsenal ?
Other than possibly Yamal, I can't think of another right sided player as good as Saka. Aside from Salah of course. We all know that Salah is a brilliant player, but if they replaced him with Saka (which isn't happening) they would be more than fine.
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Irrelevant.
Feel as though people comparing Salah's goal tallies to Saka's are kind of missing the point though... Mo has always been Liverpool's primary goalscoring threat and his position on the pitch and role has accounted for that. Saka plays in a different type of role being that he is also relied on as a progressor and creator.
I mean if we wanna point to goals as the sole indicative that Salah is apparently far so clear of Saka as a player, well statistically Saka's beating him in the league this season in all these metrics per 90:
Not arguing that he isn't better, if that's someone's opinion fine and I would still probably agree, but looking just at goals is short-sighted when - despite playing in the same position technically - they are playing much different role and always have.
I mean if we wanna point to goals as the sole indicative that Salah is apparently far so clear of Saka as a player, well statistically Saka's beating him in the league this season in all these metrics per 90:
- Total non-penalty goal contribution (G + A)
- Shot creating actions
- Progressive carries (progressive passes are the same)
- Progressive pass distance (be that total, or average either by pass attempt or completion)
- Ball retention (taking into account pass completion %, unsuccessful take-ons and times dispossessed)
Not arguing that he isn't better, if that's someone's opinion fine and I would still probably agree, but looking just at goals is short-sighted when - despite playing in the same position technically - they are playing much different role and always have.
It’s very relevant
They are both the star players in good teams
Not a bad shout, to be fair. I'm a fan of his.
And yet for the last couple of years Saka's Arsenal have been better than Salah's Liverpool. Dismissing Saka due to a lack of trophies is disingenuous. He can play for practically any team in the world.
Again, irrelevant. In the event that he would be signed to replace Salah, he wouldn't need to compete with him. Saka is a brilliant player.
Have some of that!