He will leave next summer for free, along with Trent and VVDHurry up and decline ffs.
He will leave next summer for free, along with Trent and VVDHurry up and decline ffs.
Where would people rank him in here? I'd say Henry was better..Then I'd have the likes of De Bruyne, Rooney, Salah and Aguero just a level below. Obviously Ronaldo was better than them all overall but in terms of his Premier League long term career, he's probably a bit lower as a result.Arguably one of the best players in PL history and best signings. They only paid around 37m for him.
Henry still the best but would have Rooney and Salah in that top 3 probably.Where would people rank him in here? I'd say Henry was better..Then I'd have the likes of De Bruyne, Rooney, Salah and Aguero just a level below. Obviously Ronaldo was better than them all overall but in terms of his Premier League long term career, he's probably a bit lower as a result.
Henry still the best but would have Rooney and Salah in that top 3 probably.
Rooney edges Salah for me because he was the complete footballer.As a United fan, I think Salah just might ahead.
I think Henry and Salah might be the two greatest players in the Premier league era. DeBruyne simply has to be in the equation, and if we go far back, Cantona (in terms of sheer impact) also has to be there.
Yeah. 1 Premier league title.
But nowhere near as many times as the greats of English football. There’s a huge differnce between 1 league title and 5/6/7.Another way of looking at it is he's won everything that's possible to win in English football, and the Champions League.
He will leave next summer for free, along with Trent and VVD
Agreed, a good way to put it would be that if he'd played for United our last PL winning manager wouldn't have been SAFHe’s a bit underrated here which is absolutely understandable, but it surprises me that many people that don’t have Liverpool don’t rate him as high as he deserves. Him and KdB are the best players in the league since Hazard, and Salah is better than Hazard
Completely agree, I was just being sarcastic, against using titles as a yardstick. I think Salah and Shearer easily make top 5 PL of all time.Come on now, bias aside, Salah also has 1 Champions League, 1 FA Cup, 1 League Cup, 1 European Supercup, 1 Fifa Club World Cup. 3 PL golden boots, and many other good individual awards.
Rooney edges Salah for me because he was the complete footballer.
Completely agree, I was just being sarcastic, against using titles as a yardstick. I think Salah and Shearer easily make top 5 PL of all time.
Stats wise Salah is a bit of a freak in the PL and with Liverpool but I think people forget how monstrous Rooney was in terms of his goal contributions too.Not sure Rooney was ever the offensive threat Salah was, but he certainly was complete.
I still struggle to consider him better than Suarez as their greatest of the Prem era, so I’m probably underrating him tooHe’s a bit underrated here which is absolutely understandable, but it surprises me that many people that don’t hate Liverpool don’t rate him as high as he deserves. Him and KdB are the best players in the league since Hazard, and Salah is better than Hazard
Think the problem with Salah is that he might not get into a top 10 if you're considering purely the best player/footballer in the PL but his stats can't be ignored and elevate him into that legendary status, especially because of the consistency and longevity.I still struggle to consider him better than Suarez as their greatest of the Prem era, so I’m probably underrating him too
Salah did carry Pool to the highest trophies though - for me he's as great as Suarez, perhaps even edges him a little bit.I still struggle to consider him better than Suarez as their greatest of the Prem era, so I’m probably underrating him too
Think the problem with Salah is that he might not get into a top 10 if you're considering purely the best player/footballer in the PL but his stats can't be ignored and elevate him into that legendary status, especially because of the consistency and longevity.
Scoring lots of goals doesn't mean you're the best player/footballer - see Haaland.Maybe currently, but there have been multiple seasons over the past 8 years where he has been easily the best player in the league, like when he scored 32 in 36. Do you watch him when he plays us, I can't think of ten players in the world I would want to see less. Sure, he is on the back half of his career still a wonderful player.
Salah has had a more impressive Liverpool career, but I also feel that Suarez is comfortably their best player of this century.
Yep, as attacking players, though it'd be a competitive list....probably Henry, Rooney and either Kane or Ronaldo alongside them. I'd say that they both make top 10 of all players but I guess that's subjective.Ahh okay my bad, apologies,
Top 5 of all time in what, goal scorers?
And which season would that be.Agreed, a good way to put it would be that if he'd played for United our last PL winning manager wouldn't have been SAF
Come on, you're stretching now. Look at his goals against Man City, Spurs, Watford and Chelsea, as well as countless others, and tell me he's just a goalscorer. I'll admit that I'm bias but his close control and ability to beat a man in tight spaces is fantastic.Scoring lots of goals doesn't mean you're the best player/footballer - see Haaland.
I don't think he's just a goalscorer. I just don't think he's as good a footballer/player as some others who would be in a top 10 of greatest ever players in the PL but his stats elevate him higher than them. Doesn't mean he's not also a great player/footballer, just not as great as some of the others.Come on, you're stretching now. Look at his goals against Man City, Spurs, Watford and Chelsea, as well as countless others, and tell me he's just a goalscorer. I'll admit that I'm bias but his close control and ability to beat a man in tight spaces is fantastic.
Yep, as attacking players, though it'd be a competitive list....probably Henry, Rooney and either Kane or Ronaldo alongside them. I'd say that they both make top 10 of all players but I guess that's subjective.
You are joking right?Not sure Rooney was ever the offensive threat Salah was, but he certainly was complete.
He’s a bit underrated here which is absolutely understandable, but it surprises me that many people that don’t hate Liverpool don’t rate him as high as he deserves. Him and KdB are the best players in the league since Hazard, and Salah is better than Hazard
Yeah I think there's a huge difference between Haaland and Salah. Salah has a lot more to his overall play than Haaland. He's one of the best dribblers in the epl era.Come on, you're stretching now. Look at his goals against Man City, Spurs, Watford and Chelsea, as well as countless others, and tell me he's just a goalscorer. I'll admit that I'm bias but his close control and ability to beat a man in tight spaces is fantastic.
Yeah that's how I feel about him. He's ruthlessly efficient, he's obviously a great player, but he's not as aesthetically pleasing to watch as a lot of other players - and objectively isn't as rounded as some of the greats.I don't think he's just a goalscorer. I just don't think he's as good a footballer/player as some others who would be in a top 10 of greatest ever players in the PL but his stats elevate him higher than them. Doesn't mean he's not also a great player/footballer, just not as great as some of the others.
He's crap, now that he has lost that yard of pace...
Are you watching the game? He's been excellentYou should’ve cashed in when you could. Hindsight 20/20 and all.
How old is he? We still got some years from our oldies so you might be able to get another season’s worth.
I said this in pre-season - he's 32, obsessively into conditioning and fitness, is never injured and leads a very healthy lifestyle. I see no reason why he can't carry on for another 4 years at the top level, at least. I'm happy to keep him until his mid/late 30s and then let him head off somewhere for freeYou should’ve cashed in when you could. Hindsight 20/20 and all.
How old is he? We still got some years from our oldies so you might be able to get another season’s worth.
Are you watching the game? He's been excellent
I said this in pre-season - he's 32, obsessively into conditioning and fitness, is never injured and leads a very healthy lifestyle. I see no reason why he can't carry on for another 4 years at the top level, at least. I'm happy to keep him until his mid/late 30s and then let him head off somewhere for free
Eh? He's been great and is an absolute game changer still. Always an out ball and he links up with teammates so well. Keeps defenders on the back foot and never gives them a moment's rest.Half-watching the game. I don’t see that excellence at all. Is slower and seemingly having problems getting past his marker in a 1v1 (iirc this has been an issue for a long time). He does look better than last season but nowhere near what he used to be.
4? Nah that is way, way too much. Especially given his profile/position. Just not feasible; especially in the PL.