Mo Salah

I honestly believe if Salah left and Mane stayed it would have been ok. Mane not being in Salah’s shadow would have upped his level in my opinion. Salah staying would be great but I’m not sure how motivated he will be without Mane as he certainly wasn’t in Mane’s shadow. Either way this is going to be a big summer and next season for Liverpool.
 
TheReligion said:
They sure give legend status out easily over those parts
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His goal scoring record is phenomenal since joining Liverpool. He doesn't seem to do it in finals (one penalty scored and none in open play in eleven finals), but you can't doubt his contribution overall.

156 goals in 251 appearances and 118 in 178 in the league (level with Owen and Dalglish). If he manages 30 in all competitions next season he'll go level with Gerrard in 5th. Salah is also doing this in far fewer games than others around him have. That's why he's a Liverpool legend.
 
He's doing it in fewer games but he's also part of the self proclaimed best team in Premier League history, and in a team that is geared to make chance after chance for him. He's taken the most shots per game in the league of any player and has been in the top 2 in that regard every year since he returned to England. His goal statistics are no surprise.

It also wasn't a surprise that since January when the goals dried up his performances fell off a cliff. I said many pages back multiple times that underneath the goals was an extremely ordinary footballer, and I think this half a year has really shown that. He's a player who can produce great moments but he isn't a great footballer. He's a perfect fit for Klopp's system and they truly get the best out of him.
 
1905 said:
He's doing it in fewer games but he's also part of the self proclaimed best team in Premier League history, and in a team that is geared to make chance after chance for him. He's taken the most shots per game in the league of any player and has been in the top 2 in that regard every year since he returned to England. His goal statistics are no surprise.

It also wasn't a surprise that since January when the goals dried up his performances fell off a cliff. I said many pages back multiple times that underneath the goals was an extremely ordinary footballer, and I think this half a year has really shown that. He's a player who can produce great moments but he isn't a great footballer. He's a perfect fit for Klopp's system and they truly get the best out of him.
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To be fair you are consistent. If you said Salah was in any way am ordinary footballer that was a ridiculous opinion then and is a ridiculous opinion now.
 
1905 said:
He's doing it in fewer games but he's also part of the self proclaimed best team in Premier League history, and in a team that is geared to make chance after chance for him. He's taken the most shots per game in the league of any player and has been in the top 2 in that regard every year since he returned to England. His goal statistics are no surprise.

It also wasn't a surprise that since January when the goals dried up his performances fell off a cliff. I said many pages back multiple times that underneath the goals was an extremely ordinary footballer, and I think this half a year has really shown that. He's a player who can produce great moments but he isn't a great footballer. He's a perfect fit for Klopp's system and they truly get the best out of him.
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OverratedOpinion said:
To be fair you are consistent. If you said Salah was in any way am ordinary footballer that was a ridiculous opinion then and is a ridiculous opinion now.
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What @OverratedOpinion said.

Saying Salah is ordinary footballer outside goals is just saying, no matter when you said it.
 
United should let his people know they'd be willing to pay him £500,000 a week. Feck them scousers.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
To be fair you are consistent. If you said Salah was in any way am ordinary footballer that was a ridiculous opinion then and is a ridiculous opinion now.
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That's fair enough. To be clear I think he's a great player and a great goalscorer - but not a great footballer. There's a difference. For every good touch he has there are multiple loose ones, sloppy passes, gets caught on the ball frequently. His general play is painfully inconsistent outside of the 18 yard box, but within it is where he shines like most good forwards.
 
I would love the club to make an effort to bring Salah to the club if he is in fact available this summer or next. He is a proven scorer and has the winning mentality.
 
Even if he does go Liverpool will replace him with a player that is seen as decent then they will be a star. All of there signings seem to just work out.
As for Salah based on his PL record since joining Liverpool he should be one of the highest paid players in the world.
 
paulscholes18 said:
TBF he’s been at Liverpool the same length of time Cantona did for us, and doubt there’s many if any United fans that don’t class King Eric as a legend.
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Eric led us to 4 titles in 5 years only missing out in the year he was banned, a massive influence.
 
bringbackbebe said:
Losing both Salah and Mane in one season will be a big blow for Pool but they are both in their 30s and will have to be replaced soon anyway. Liverpool should look to swallow the bitter pill and get this done with rather than drag this on for a whole season leading to a lose-lose situation like with Pogba.
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Salah isn't actually 30 yet.
And you don't just drop off at 30 anyway.
 
Salah with a sly crank on the pressure wheel.
Oh I might just join a top English team.

Smart money is still a contract renewal.
 
Sir Erik ten Hag said:
I guess too many have been burned by the Sanchez saga.
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And ignore that our best player is 37!
A world all time great yes, but still.

It would Be so United to getSalah on 500k a week next season on a long deal, just as he declines off a cliff though
 
Sandikan said:
Salah with a sly crank on the pressure wheel.
Oh I might just join a top English team.

Smart money is still a contract renewal.
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Yep. Liverpool will be more confident now he’s coming out with these threats. He wants to stay, he just wants paying. They’re counting on him wanting to stay as much as he wants to get paid and so a compromise will be found.

I reckon they’re waiting to sell Mane first to raise some funds. The last thing they want to do is put up a bumper contract for Salah and have Mane leave for free.
 
I was watching Salahs 100 PL goals yesterday on Sky, and some of his play and goals were unbelievable early on. He’s definitely starting to decline. There is no way he’s going to be hitting those heights in the next couple of years. Liverpool need to cash out now if possible. Giving him a 5 year contract on 300-400k will be suicidal!
 
Sandikan said:
Salah with a sly crank on the pressure wheel.
Oh I might just join a top English team.

Smart money is still a contract renewal.
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If Sterling goes, Salah at City ? Wouldn’t be the biggest shock in football!
 
Josh 76 said:
I was watching Salahs 100 PL goals yesterday on Sky, and some of his play and goals were unbelievable early on. He’s definitely starting to decline. There is no way he’s going to be hitting those heights in the next couple of years. Liverpool need to cash out now if possible. Giving him a 5 year contract on 300-400k will be suicidal!
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I agree. For all of Salah's golden boots the last two seasons have been far from (his usual) great and it's only headed downwards I'm afraid. Hopefully this is being fed to him and his agent by our statistics teams.
 
Sandikan said:
Salah isn't actually 30 yet.
And you don't just drop off at 30 anyway.
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You don’t just drop off at 30 but the age curve is steeper in the PL than other leagues and it’s steepest for forwards.

You can count the number of truly elite seasons by a PL forward aged 31+ since 2000 on a single hand with a couple fingers left over.

You never know but a reasonable baseline case is that Salah has one more very good season in the tank then a couple so-so seasons then it’s time for MLS.
 
Powderfinger said:
You don’t just drop off at 30 but the age curve is steeper in the PL than other leagues and it’s steepest for forwards.

You can count the number of truly elite seasons by a PL forward aged 31+ since 2000 on a single hand with a couple fingers left over.

You never know but a reasonable baseline case is that Salah has one more very good season in the tank then a couple so-so seasons then it’s time for MLS.
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Shearer alone would get you to 3, so I’m very much doubting your assertion here
 
I'm starting to think we would be better off by selling both him and Mane and replace them with two forwards from '96-'00. Prepare for the future and add young talent. A new deal for Salah might be worth it for next season or the season after, but I doubt he'd be worth a 4-year deal for the full duration of said deal.

Odds are stacked against everyone to win the PL next season against City with Haaland (and maybe others) added to their team. Why not prepare the squad for a few years in advance and hope that KDB is too old / Guardialo has finally fecked off by then.
 
Salah will go down as one of their best players but, depending on how he leaves, there could be a sour taste left in Liverpool fan’s mouths (and not from eating rats in a council house).
 
People who are saying we should put an offer in for Salah are just dreaming. He’d never join us after playing for them. If he does leave Liverpool then that will be him and mane who have gone and that could see them go on a downward spiral. Yes they’ll replace them but they’ve played together for years and the replacements will have to adjust to the premier league and get use to playing in a front 3 that will of completely changed.
 
RobinLFC said:
I'm starting to think we would be better off by selling both him and Mane and replace them with two forwards from '96-'00. Prepare for the future and add young talent. A new deal for Salah might be worth it for next season or the season after, but I doubt he'd be worth a 4-year deal for the full duration of said deal.

Odds are stacked against everyone to win the PL next season against City with Haaland (and maybe others) added to their team. Why not prepare the squad for a few years in advance and hope that KDB is too old / Guardialo has finally fecked off by then.
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I dont think I ever saw squad built like that, giving up today's chances to have better future. Also players like VVD, Henderson, Thiago, Fabinho, Robertson, Matip will all enter 30s and mid 30s by that time. You will need major signings again.

Liverpool are in good position to have a go for PL title again, Salah is tricky player to replace, his goals and assists were insane in first half of the season to keep the momentum going. It's really hard to find a consistent goal scorer.

Also looks like he isn't linked with any clubs, so his choices are maybe to extend with good wages or leave on free transfer.

As long as Klopp is manager, Liverpool will compete for title. Wish he fecks off to Germany or La Liga.
 
There isn't a hope of Liverpool signing someone as good as him, I'd be giving him a medium term bumper contract.
 
phelans shorts said:
Shearer alone would get you to 3, so I’m very much doubting your assertion here
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Shearer had better longevity than just about any other PL forward (Vardy has a case, and obviously Ian Wright if we're going back into the 1990s) but I still wouldn't classify those last couple productive seasons as truly elite. He had 15 non-penalty goals and 4 assists in both 2002-2003 and 2003-2004, each while playing almost every game. And he was kind of a non-factor out of possession at that point in his career. They were similar seasons to what Ronaldo just gave United and I wouldn't call that elite level forward play.

In comparison, Salah's current performance level was just 31 total non-penalty goals+assists while playing fewer minutes. Its a totally different level of production.

And even if you want to count those last two Shearer seasons as elite, its basically three from him, Drogba's insane 2009-2010, and Jamie Vardy's 2019-2020 as the elite 31+ forward seasons in the PL since 2000. Slim pickings. So somewhere between 3-5 individual seasons in 22 years.
 
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Conor said:
There isn't a hope of Liverpool signing someone as good as him, I'd be giving him a medium term bumper contract.
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Salah wasn't as good as Salah when we signed him. There are a few good players around at the moment (Nunez, Nkunku, etc) not that I've seen much of them in their leagues. To be honest I hadn't seen much of Salah after Chelsea either.
 
Dumbstar said:
Salah wasn't as good as Salah when we signed him. There are a few good players around at the moment (Nunez, Nkunku, etc) not that I've seen much of them in their leagues. To be honest I hadn't seen much of Salah after Chelsea either.
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People that score goals at the rate that Salah does are incredibly rare, there is a decent amount of luck involved in signing players not producing at that level already.
 
Conor said:
People that score goals at the rate that Salah does are incredibly rare, there is a decent amount of luck involved in signing players not producing at that level already.
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Absolutely. These players are difficult to guess at and then to see them deliver consistently. That's why you instead look for players that will fit in a system and the whole team will then score the required goals in a season. City being the prime example, they have won the last 5 (?) PL's without a golden boot winner.

It's all about the right player for the system. Not the player that will save the whole team.
 
Dumbstar said:
Absolutely. These players are difficult to guess at and then to see them deliver consistently. That's why you instead look for players that will fit in a system and the whole team will then score the required goals in a season. City being the prime example, they have won the last 5 (?) PL's without a golden boot winner.

It's all about the right player for the system. Not the player that will save the whole team.
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What do you think of Bowen? Maybe stylistically the most similar to Salah, could see him doing really well in your side.
 
copen1945 said:
I would love the club to make an effort to bring Salah to the club if he is in fact available this summer or next. He is a proven scorer and has the winning mentality.
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Hasn't he lost a lot of finals recently and not scored in any?
 
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