Mo Salah

el3mel said:
The problem isn't thinking Salah is selfish but to think he's more selfish than say Mane. You can see here his Key passing rate per game is the highest in Liverpool with 1.8, 16th in the league. Mane is at 1.3 at 46th, Firmino is 45th with 1.3 too. :

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He's also 6th in the league and the highest in Liverpool in number of through balls he made with 19. Mane is 14th with 14 and Firmino is 11th with 16 through balls :

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_through_ball

Also with the fact he has the 3rd most assists in Liverpool team and 10th overall in the league :

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/goal_assist

So to claim he's the most selfish in Liverpool team unlike Mane for example is a weird myth.
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Based on watching football he is definitely the most selfish, he has many opportunities to pass when players are in better positions, specifically this season rather than the previous season, but chooses to get a shot away himself.

The fact that he creates and plays more passes in attacking areas than the other two I would simply put down to the fact that he is the more involved, he receives the ball in attacking areas more often, or creates an opportunity for a shot/pass himself. So I'm not knocking him as a player, all of those mean he is a better player than Mane, and Firmino, but he could do with being less selfish next season.
 
He won’t go anywhere. We’ll demand a ridiculous sum and I don’t see anyone paying it.
 
Rob said:
He won’t go anywhere. We’ll demand a ridiculous sum and I don’t see anyone paying it.
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Pretty much. Even if Salah demanded a move, I doubt he would kick up enough of a fuss for the club to feel like they have to sell.
 
Patchbeard said:
Based on watching football he is definitely the most selfish, he has many opportunities to pass when players are in better positions, specifically this season rather than the previous season, but chooses to get a shot away himself.

The fact that he creates and plays more passes in attacking areas than the other two I would simply put down to the fact that he is the more involved, he receives the ball in attacking areas more often, or creates an opportunity for a shot/pass himself. So I'm not knocking him as a player, all of those mean he is a better player than Mane, and Firmino, but he could do with being less selfish next season.
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I'm not saying he's not selfish but I don't agree with the idea he's more selfish than Mane. People think he doesn't pass the ball for Mane in key areas, yeah that happens but Mane does exactly the same thing many many times this season and the last and it seems to go under radar. Both simply don't cooperate with each other much and prefer to get the goal themselves.
 
Lest we forget this genius, he's just played his hundredth game for us and scored his 70th goal.

1. Alan Shearer (Blackburn Rovers) – 79 goals
2. Mo Salah (Liverpool) – 70 goals
3. Ruud van Nistelrooy (Manchester United) – 68 goals
4. Sergio Aguero (Manchester City) – 64 goals
5. Fernando Torres (Liverpool) – 63 goals
 
Such a bizarre player...I don't think a top level player has ever infuriated me watching him play as he does.
 
He's obviously no Dirk Kuyt, but I have to admit he has his moments. Doubt he could do it as a wingback in a world cup final semi's though.
 
Every time I watch him I get surprised by his physical strength. So many times they ping those low balls into the box and he just holds up the significantly bigger defender with ease and turns him. Its the same with Mane too.

There must be something in the water they are feeding them.
 
thepolice123 said:
Every time I watch him I get surprised by his physical strength. So many times they ping those low balls into the box and he just holds up the significantly bigger defender with ease and turns him. Its the same with Mane too.

There must be something in the water they are feeding them.
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Steroids ?
 
jymufc20 said:
It is a bit suspicious they seem one of the only teams that hardly get any injuries despite playing the same 11 every week.
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I think they were lucky but we shouldn't suspect more than that. They have had seasons with those key players injured so it happens. It will happen again. It's football.
 
Liver_bird said:
under appreciated.
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A classic example of being a victim of his own success. I also believe that, like Mane and a lot of other players, he would get more appreciation if he was not African - not because of racism, but because of a bias towards players from Europe and South America and the lack of visibility for national team performances for African sides.
 
BobbyManc said:
A classic example of being a victim of his own success. I also believe that, like Mane and a lot of other players, he would get more appreciation if he was not African - not because of racism, but because of a bias towards players from Europe and South America and the lack of visibility for national team performances for African sides.
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Spot on
 
Liver_bird said:
under appreciated.
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Pretty much. Just because he hasn't reached the standards of his first season people act like he isn't that great while all he does is produce the goods. He's genuinely a threat to score every game he plays.
 
jymufc20 said:
It is a bit suspicious they seem one of the only teams that hardly get any injuries despite playing the same 11 every week.
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Dont they get a decent amount of injuries? I dont follow EPL religiously, but it seems Fabinho, Allison, And Matip have been out for months. Henderson has missed a number of games, Mane some, even Salah a few. Not to mention Keita is almost always injured.

Liverpool are very physically fit so I think they actually have more injuries than average. Atalanta in Italy are one of the fittest teams and they hardly get any injuries except for a few centre backs at times. Come to think of it, Liverpool's centre backs also get a crazy amount of injuries over the last few years.
 
InterFan1998 said:
Dont they get a decent amount of injuries? I dont follow EPL religiously, but it seems Fabinho, Allison, And Matip have been out for months. Henderson has missed a number of games, Mane some, even Salah a few. Not to mention Keita is almost always injured.

Liverpool are very physically fit so I think they actually have more injuries than average. Atalanta in Italy are one of the fittest teams and they hardly get any injuries except for a few centre backs at times. Come to think of it, Liverpool's centre backs also get a crazy amount of injuries over the last few years.
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You're posting in the wrong forums. :)
 
InterFan1998 said:
Dont they get a decent amount of injuries? I dont follow EPL religiously, but it seems Fabinho, Allison, And Matip have been out for months. Henderson has missed a number of games, Mane some, even Salah a few. Not to mention Keita is almost always injured.

Liverpool are very physically fit so I think they actually have more injuries than average. Atalanta in Italy are one of the fittest teams and they hardly get any injuries except for a few centre backs at times. Come to think of it, Liverpool's centre backs also get a crazy amount of injuries over the last few years.
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We've had key players injured sporadically throughout the season yes, but it regarded as either not enough injuries or it changes as to which that key player is at the time..
 
MalcolmTucker said:
I hear Liverpool fans complaining about Salah but every time I watch him he's class.
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Personally, I feel Liverpool fans heap the most amount of praise on Firmino because he is the weakest of the 3 (still class obviously), and maybe give Salah a hard time because there's no denying he's world class so they don't need to defend him at any point.
 
GDaly95 said:
Personally, I feel Liverpool fans heap the most amount of praise on Firmino because he is the weakest of the 3 (still class obviously), and maybe give Salah a hard time because there's no denying he's world class so they don't need to defend him at any point.
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Maybe because Firmino is an absolute workhorse and grafts for the team, while Salah, world class no doubt, is really selfish. Like Jermaine Defoe selfish. Still, a great player.
 
BobbyManc said:
A classic example of being a victim of his own success. I also believe that, like Mane and a lot of other players, he would get more appreciation if he was not African - not because of racism, but because of a bias towards players from Europe and South America and the lack of visibility for national team performances for African sides.
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Couldn’t have put it better myself.
 
BobbyManc said:
A classic example of being a victim of his own success.
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I see both sides. Perhaps this one, but also perhaps riding on the coattails of that incredible season. He still puts up very good numbers and is obviously a top top player, but perhaps not quite the player he was and sometimes still is made out to be? I'm not saying that's what I definitely believe but I think it could be the case.
 
GDaly95 said:
Personally, I feel Liverpool fans heap the most amount of praise on Firmino because he is the weakest of the 3 (still class obviously), and maybe give Salah a hard time because there's no denying he's world class so they don't need to defend him at any point.
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He doesn't hit the same numbers as the other two but he is practically the glue of the three. The goal drought at Anfield is slightly odd for him but out of the three we tend to drop a level in attack because the importance of his link up play benefits Mane + Salah. If he's missing or not starting alongside them both we can look a bit toothless and they don't press or track back as good as he does.
 
GDaly95 said:
Personally, I feel Liverpool fans heap the most amount of praise on Firmino because he is the weakest of the 3 (still class obviously), and maybe give Salah a hard time because there's no denying he's world class so they don't need to defend him at any point.
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He is the reason everything works IMO. Having a center forward that is a legit 9, but can do damage as a playmaker or coming from deeper decision is the reason they're so difficult to defend. Very few if any center forwards in the world can hurt your defense in as many ways as Firminho can.
 
Snow said:
He means for Liverpool. Vardy is 3 goals ahead in the league. Salah is joint 3rd just ahead of a few other players.
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He was only one goal behind when I wrote the post... :annoyed:
 
In a generation where we've had Aguero as a rightfully acclaimed world class player in the PL, to think Salah is THE PL all time top scorer in a 38 game season and wiped the floor with Kun's first 100 (when he tended to remain injury free) games record. Madness. Imagine the other records he would have broken if he was kept on at Chelsea as a younger man.
 
Dumbstar said:
In a generation where we've had Aguero as a rightfully acclaimed world class player in the PL, to think Salah is THE PL all time top scorer in a 38 game season and wiped the floor with Kun's first 100 (when he tended to remain injury free) games record. Madness. Imagine the other records he would have broken if he was kept on at Chelsea as a younger man.
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Would Salah be as prolific under all the various Chelsea managers since then ? I doubt it
 
kouroux said:
Would Salah be as prolific under all the various Chelsea managers since then ? I doubt it
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True, but it's like asking would Aguero be as prolific if he played all his career for Chelsea instead of City? I'm sure both our natural instincts tell us yes he would.
 
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