I wonder if these voters are Madrid based ?
http://www.lfp.es/noticias/el-once-ideal-de-la-liga-bbva
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Messi left out of La Liga Starting XI
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They won the league on the last day, and they get 7(!) players in the starting XI?
I don't watch La Liga consistently, but I really doubt that this is a fair Team Of The Season...
I don't watch La Liga consistently, but I really doubt that this is a fair Team Of The Season...
Haven't watched la liga all season, fed up with the bullshit. Only ever watch Spanish teams in the CL these days
Its not far off it, but Messi scored 28 goals and assisted at least 10. That gets you in any team of the season, I dont care how off the boil he has been
You probably missed one of the finest title chases in many a year
Didn't Modric also have a fantastic season? I saw some people on Reddit rage over his exclusion.
Well that's just silly, how can anyone with even half a brain choose to leave out Messi?
Yeah, as good as Gabi has been this season you could move rakitic left and put Messi in the AMC position.
All politics as usual.
They won the league on the last day, and they get 7(!) players in the starting XI?
I don't watch La Liga consistently, but I really doubt that this is a fair Team Of The Season...
It is, goal keeper and defence can't be argued at all, the record speaks for itself. Koke and Gabi have been immense as well, you could argue if Modric deserves to be there, but it would have been very Close between him and Koke/Gabi.
Diego Costa's record speaks volumes as well, noone can say he doesn't deserve to be there.
yeah he was excellent
You put Costa in there because of how vital he has been and how many points his goals have won. Atletico had the best defence (by a mile) so it's no surprise most media outlets have either all of them or 3 of them.
It's hard to argue with most of them, actually. Courtois, Filipe, Godin, Gabi, Koke and Diego Costa all had to be there in my opinion.They won the league on the last day, and they get 7(!) players in the starting XI?
I don't watch La Liga consistently, but I really doubt that this is a fair Team Of The Season...
There are players from the number 1, 3, 4, 5 teams in La Liga but none from number 2 Barcelona, who almost won the league and had a winning legal goal cancelled.
This has nothing to do with football but with politics: Spain trying to put down anything related with Catalonia.
This has nothing to do with football but with politics: Spain trying to put down anything related with Catalonia.
Modric and Bale should be on that list.
How vital has Messi been to Barcelona this season? His numbers are good but how many games has he won on his own that they wouldn't already have won without him? His injury layoff obviously had a big affect on the team but putting Costa in when he won Atletico many tight games with the only goal isn't really surprising to me.
..and Messi obviously. Spanish supporters are spoilt.
They won the league on the last day, and they get 7(!) players in the starting XI?
I don't watch La Liga consistently, but I really doubt that this is a fair Team Of The Season...
Diego Costa, Koke, Gabi, Filipe Luis and Juanfran definitely deserve to be in there.
Okay.
The defense is probably not wrong, but I find it crazy that they get 3 out of 6 players in the attacking positions as well. Barca and Real scored so much more. Surely they'd be able to come up with a couple of players fit for Team of the Season then?
Or if it is, it doesn't necessarily give a great view on the rest of the teams really.
Well that's a load of shite considering that Messi is the only exclusion from Barca you could argue is unwarranted & it's not as if Diego Costa & Ronaldo have been shite, he's hardly going to be the first name down.
Modric's has more of a case to be in than Messi does imo.
Well, who would you have from Barca/Real in place of who? As @Orton already said, Messi didn't score many crucial goals, neither did Bale. While Bale scored goals to make it 3-0 or something, Diego Costa scored the only goal at the Bernabeu, one goal in Bilbao when they won 2-1, and a lot of the time scored the only goal when they won 1-0 or the crucial goal when they won 2-1.
As for Gabi/Koke, as good as Barca's midfield is, no Barca midfielder has been better than thise two this season. As I said, you can only make a case for Modric.
Don't see anything wrong with it. Like Orton said, Messi's numbers are good but his match winning performances have been very few and far between this season.
Nice to see there are still football fans who watch games and don't judge these things on goal or assist stats.
Nice to see there are still football fans who watch games and don't judge these things on goal or assist stats.
Every time I look at it I can't believe Atletico won the league. Absolutely monumental achievement. Other than Messi I don't think that's too ridiculous, if anything shouldn't Miranda be there too?
Who has been Barca's standout player this season the way they used to have all this time?
Yeah I agree.
You could easily have squeezed Messi into the team, by making him or Ronaldo play on the wing.
And if Modric has been the second best player for Real and had such a fantastic season as everyone is saying, then surely he should be able to get a spot as well. Other than that, the team is probably fine. But I can definitely see why some people react to it.
A team with Atletico's goal tally doesn't deserve 3 players in the front 6. Midfielders should contribute offensively as well, imo.
And if Modric has been the second best player for Real and had such a fantastic season as everyone is saying, then surely he should be able to get a spot as well. Other than that, the team is probably fine. But I can definitely see why some people react to it.
A team with Atletico's goal tally doesn't deserve 3 players in the front 6. Midfielders should contribute offensively as well, imo.
This. I would also rate Busquets higher than Iturraspe.
Again, players from number 1, 3, 4, 5 teams in La Liga, none from number 2.
I'd have Miranda in at centre back, instead of either Godín or Laporte, but I'd have them as the top 3 in the league this season so it's not a big issue. Modric, Griezmann (though he dipped towards the end), Messi have decent shouts too but I think overall it's not far off.
? Of course a team with Ronaldo/Bale and Messi/Neymar et al will score more goals than Atletico, but that doesn't mean that all those players should make the team of the season.
Are you just refusing to give Atletico credit because you can't accept that someone else than your beloved Klopp and Dortmund won something with such a small budget? Wouldn't be surprised at all.
Valdes was outstanding for the first half of the season and there's no way they'd have been that close to Atletico by the end of the season without the numerous times he bailed them out.
Has Laporte been really that good this season?
Still very young, I don't think he's gonna stay at Bilbao for much longer.
Still very young, I don't think he's gonna stay at Bilbao for much longer.
Can't argue with that. But then imagine IF Miranda was there instead of Laporte, that would make it 8 Atletico players. The disbelief here about 7 of those players is already immense! Haha!
La Liga numbers:
Ronaldo 31 goals 11 assists
Messi 28 goals 11 assists
Costa 27 goals 5 assists
Cesc also left out of midfield with 13 goals and 17 assists.
Ronaldo 31 goals 11 assists
Messi 28 goals 11 assists
Costa 27 goals 5 assists
Cesc also left out of midfield with 13 goals and 17 assists.
How about Courtois? Best goalkeeper in the world this season for me.
Individual stats don't tell the full story though, how vital has Cesc been? Barca fans don't even want him in the team.
Messi scored crucial hat-tricks away to Valencia and Real Madrid. He scored 22 further goals and assisted another 11. The idea that of those 33 combined, not many were important to the results, is a bit silly. A lot of people are taking Messi's numbers for granted. Only some 40 goals he's been involved in? Meh, must not have been many important ones.
It's not just a matter of individuals. When a team scores 100 or 104 goals, then it shows that they're doing something right offensively at the very least. Atletico only managed to score 77 goals, which is just 6 goals more than Chelsea scored this season in the PL. As a result, Chelsea only got one player in the front 6. And that one player was the clear standout player offensively for Chelsea, and he didn't really have a lot of competition.
There's lots of competition for the front 6 in La Liga's team of the season this year. I just find it incredibly weird that Atletico managed to get as much as 3 spots then. Especially when Modric is being praised so much, and Messi scores and assists as much as he does.
I'm not the only person reacting either, it seems.
Messi's insane standards go against him then because stats aside many people think he's looked way below par this season. Costa's important goals and match winners led Atletico to their first title in 18 years.
Cesc was completely vital during the first half of the season while Messi was injured.
Athletico have to the best defensive side I've seen this year and for a long time
I think it owes as much to Simones tactics as ability though - Gabi was fantastic so I'd have Messi instead of Koke
I think it owes as much to Simones tactics as ability though - Gabi was fantastic so I'd have Messi instead of Koke