Marcus Rashford (out)

DJ_21 said:
Was that before FFP by any chance? Teams have to sell more nowadays
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If you want recent examples, Mudryk and Fernandez were also signed by Chelsea in the January window.

The FFP constraints aren't going to be what determines the likelihood of a January transfer, but rather the clubs willingness to potentially derail their campaign midway through by selling a key player. Rashford is not a key player for us anymore so selling him in January would not hinder us, on the contrary it would be beneficial.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
We have to look at this through Rashford’s eyes. If we believe he wants to play regular first team football that would give him a chance at playing for England again. He’s not moving to any PL club. So that’s Arsenal dead and buried unless you believe he’ll be a first choice player once Saka returns still.
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He'll think the same thing Sterling did - that he's good enough to lock down a spot in Arsenal's attack. Doesn't really matter that all of us are sure he's wrong. If a big club does come in for him he'll have to back himself to take advantage.
 
Doracle said:
I would be pretty confident that Rashford doesn’t see Martinelli and Trossard as any sort of threat to him. He must have some level of arrogance to have made it this far and the reality is that his best level is miles above theirs.

If he himself believes that he’s a busted flush and won’t rediscover his prior level at a different club, then he is finished anyway. In that scenario he might as well just sit tight and collect his current contract or take the Saudi dollar. He’s not getting back in the England squad in that scenario.
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I don’t think so. He isn’t playing at United ahead of less experienced pros.

He will want an absolute guarantee of gametime and remuneration in a competitive side. I see no such guarantee at Arsenal and I cannot see Arteta offering him a clear 1st choice assurance as part of any deal.

I don’t believe it’s as binary a choice as him being arrogant and going to too big a club or him just wanting money and going to Saudi.

There could conceivably be a future where he goes to Dortmund or Milan and does really well and has half a chance at a squad role for England or at least going some way to revitalising his career. But in the PL? I don’t think he’s got the physicality and ability to deal with it anymore. Doesn’t mean he can’t succeed abroad.
VP89 said:
Hed be a bit of an Antonio replacement and certainly a risk in doing so, but Bowen is out for 6 weeks (Fulrug now injured on top) so I can imagine him getting a head start in identifying a position in a Potter system and keeping it.
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Potentially, but Antonio as you well know is/was one of the most physical forwards in the league in terms of powerful running. Rashford’s never been that player.

Maybe Potter can work his magic.

Posh Red said:
Does Bowen not play primarily on the right wing?
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Probably need to explain myself more here. I’m not even considering club level competition here, he should start for West Ham, it’s more that Bowen has performed far better than Rashford at West Ham and even he struggled to get a place.

Competition at LW is pretty stiff too for England and so you’d need a Bowen-esque return to be in with contention.
 
Doracle said:
I would be pretty confident that Rashford doesn’t see Martinelli and Trossard as any sort of threat to him. He must have some level of arrogance to have made it this far and the reality is that his best level is miles above theirs.
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I'd be more confident Arteta will see his off field antics and on field workrate and drop him within a couple months.
 
I think we’re only looking at a
6 month loan which lets him showcase his ability in a league with less intensity.
We’ll need to pay him off once He’s sold, but hopefully that could be done over the course of his exile contract, as if he does well i can see him wanting to return to England and whichever club who bought him will take the money.

Id like to see some bonus payments for goals, as he’ll bag them in FRA/ITA/GER leagues.

The only thing i dont want from this is Utd being the mugs / patsy in the deal.
Rashford - rejuvenates his rep. In a lower league, still gets his united wage.
Signing club - get the goals and sell at minimum at a break even.
United - sell for 30m and pay him off and then watch chelsea sign him on reduced wages. feck that.
 
VP89 said:
I'd be more confident Arteta will see his off field antics and on field workrate and drop him within a couple months.
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Cool - thanks for sharing. Can we agree that’s probably irrelevant to Rashford’s likely mind-set, which was what was being discussed?
 
I honestly can’t see us getting more than £30m maximum for him, and £30m would be great considering those astronomic wages the Glazers put him on, combined with his general market value in terms of goals and assists.
 
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