Initially, before you quoted me, I just said he's a top-tier celebrity. Just look at the attention he's got from attending a basketball game. However, that bit was irrelevant. My first initial point was that he can spend his money on whatever the feck he wants, whether he's top tier in USA or not.
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Initially, before you quoted me, I just said he's a top-tier celebrity. Just look at the attention he's got from attending a basketball game. However, that bit was irrelevant. My first initial point was that he can spend his money on whatever the feck he wants, whether he's top tier in USA or not.
He is free to spend his money, its his. But he himself has come out multiple times about people bullying him online to the point where he took off his profile pictures, its that bad. So behaving like this is just going to make it harder on that part, more and more trolls will bully him even further. He needs an advisor for own best interest I reckon, not on how to "market" himself more. He is a famous figure already. Need to keep his mental health in check. And that of course is directly affecting his profession.
You don’t earn that kind of status without doing something exceptionally well.
When making comparisons, please focus on players who have actually played as wingers in a 4-2-3-1 formation. Comparing them to pure strikers isn’t just unhelpful—it’s fundamentally unfair.
Behaving like what?
I dont think he needs 5 body guards or to dress like that when he has been a target for criticism. See Casemiro, you can enjoy your NBA game without drawing in so much unecessary attention especially if youve been struggling on that part. If he is currently not having a tough time against criticism, then it shouldnt matter. But he is.
Exactly, would have less issues with him parading around NY if he was ripping it up. Yes I know Casemiro was there too but he at least kept a much lower profile. Little bit surprised he didn't get a Brazil recall as he's been better since last international break.
Agree with on reflection, it isn't quite the same
Are they mutually exclusive?
Rightly or wrongly, his actions will draw criticism.
He truly doesn’t help himself.
He truly doesn’t help himself.
Seems like so many fans want him to dress with Primark clothes
Its literally a 2 week holiday due to international duty, he has gone to see another sport he likes, he actually is wearing all black - black t shirt & black trousers with chains & hardly dressing like a bellend until he puts his Louis Vuitton jacket on to exit the stadium.
Whether he was on his pre-contract wages or his new contract wages, he will have always worn the same things & fans are just getting more irritated because he isnt performing well but still having a good time.
Rashford was a very poor person until he broke through in football & as usually said - it tends to be the poor people who likes to wear super designer clothes rather than the rich especially when people grew up poor even to the point he was apparently starving. He obviously likes to show he has money now that he has money.
Its literally a 2 week holiday due to international duty, he has gone to see another sport he likes, he actually is wearing all black - black t shirt & black trousers with chains & hardly dressing like a bellend until he puts his Louis Vuitton jacket on to exit the stadium.
Whether he was on his pre-contract wages or his new contract wages, he will have always worn the same things & fans are just getting more irritated because he isnt performing well but still having a good time.
Rashford was a very poor person until he broke through in football & as usually said - it tends to be the poor people who likes to wear super designer clothes rather than the rich especially when people grew up poor even to the point he was apparently starving. He obviously likes to show he has money now that he has money.
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He's not now, but he's well recognized and if he signed for an MLS club at this juncture it would make headlines up here and shake the league.
Don't forget United have a huge following in the US, the largest among Pl clubs and we're talking millions.
Stop getting my hopes up, MLS would be welcome to him!
I feel like he checked out of football a long time ago and without that fire and passion for the game, you have someone phoning it in and going through the [insincere] motions. That he gets paid £300k for the privilege is farcical and waiting on his shooting star turns of form he has sporadically (1 on 2off?) is not worth it.
Advocated selling him a long time ago and since then have written him off as a player because, whatever it is that goes on with him, he doesn’t want “it” like other players you see busting a gut trying to play themselves into form. You don’t need to have the enthusiasm of Robbie Savage nor be throwing yourself into things like an excitable puppy, but ceaselessly moping about, not helping your teammates and putting in an effort that is a shadow of your own previous is not on, and that’s where it’s easier to disconnect from Marcus where you don’t from triers who aren’t a patch on him ability wise.
We’re living on a prayer where his “1-on” becomes a permanent fixture and he justifies his wage and standing. This is going to be his last chance to make a claim for a position in the xi and if he doesn’t make a proper go of it, I’m certain he’ll be turfed in the summer. We can’t be carrying high earners and we shouldn’t be. You’re deigned a high earner for a reason and it’s a billing that must be lived up to or palmed off on someone else.
I have made extensive posts on Rashford in the past that I’d like to think are objective and rounded - to this day, it’s unforgivable that Ole continued to play him knowing full well the risks, effectively turning him into a shadow of himself at what should have been his physical prime, for example - but that is neither here nor there when talking about a player who just doesn’t enjoy playing anymore and has, imo, checked out. Perhaps he goes somewhere else and reignites his passion and joy - if Amorim can’t get that out of him - but until he does, if he even can, all the offshoots are redundant, which is why I find threads bemoaning him the most futile and pointless.
It’s going to be very interesting indeed to see what kind of relationship Amorim can foster with Rashford. If he can get in his head and tap into whatever remnants care about footy again, we’ll see what Rashford is capable of in his diminished physical state. If he can’t get through to him, it’ll be equally interesting to see how he handles him before he’s turfed in the summer.
Advocated selling him a long time ago and since then have written him off as a player because, whatever it is that goes on with him, he doesn’t want “it” like other players you see busting a gut trying to play themselves into form. You don’t need to have the enthusiasm of Robbie Savage nor be throwing yourself into things like an excitable puppy, but ceaselessly moping about, not helping your teammates and putting in an effort that is a shadow of your own previous is not on, and that’s where it’s easier to disconnect from Marcus where you don’t from triers who aren’t a patch on him ability wise.
We’re living on a prayer where his “1-on” becomes a permanent fixture and he justifies his wage and standing. This is going to be his last chance to make a claim for a position in the xi and if he doesn’t make a proper go of it, I’m certain he’ll be turfed in the summer. We can’t be carrying high earners and we shouldn’t be. You’re deigned a high earner for a reason and it’s a billing that must be lived up to or palmed off on someone else.
I have made extensive posts on Rashford in the past that I’d like to think are objective and rounded - to this day, it’s unforgivable that Ole continued to play him knowing full well the risks, effectively turning him into a shadow of himself at what should have been his physical prime, for example - but that is neither here nor there when talking about a player who just doesn’t enjoy playing anymore and has, imo, checked out. Perhaps he goes somewhere else and reignites his passion and joy - if Amorim can’t get that out of him - but until he does, if he even can, all the offshoots are redundant, which is why I find threads bemoaning him the most futile and pointless.
It’s going to be very interesting indeed to see what kind of relationship Amorim can foster with Rashford. If he can get in his head and tap into whatever remnants care about footy again, we’ll see what Rashford is capable of in his diminished physical state. If he can’t get through to him, it’ll be equally interesting to see how he handles him before he’s turfed in the summer.
He definitely looks forward to the international breaks safe in the knowledge any time is his own, which he uses to jet set to lavish places and put the garish and hideous Rashford brand on display for all to see.
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Unfortunately I think he's closer to being a forgotten player like Dele Alli or Lingard than making a come back. His mentality is fragile, I don't think he's a fighter and if it doesn't clicks this season for him I don't think Amorim will give him many chances.
One of Amorim's basics is absolutely hard work, every player must run their socks off in order for the system to click. Can't carry any passengers and Rashford hasn't proven to be a hard working player ever, he's been through good and bad spells but never looked like a hardworking player it's hard to imagine he'll suddenly start being one.
One of Amorim's basics is absolutely hard work, every player must run their socks off in order for the system to click. Can't carry any passengers and Rashford hasn't proven to be a hard working player ever, he's been through good and bad spells but never looked like a hardworking player it's hard to imagine he'll suddenly start being one.
What number am I thinking of?
Not physically, no.
And thats exactly the problem and why people are bothered, because his top-tier celebrity status, should be a reflection of his ability as a footballer player, but its totally out of whack.
If he was Lionel Messi, then fine, live it up all he wants, but he's closer to Lionel Blair.
He has been poor so far this season so should have been at Carrington training and trying to improve his conditioning during the break not at a Basketball game on the other side if the world especially when he has a new manager he needs to impress if he wants to play in the upcoming games.
Do you honestly think that it hasn't been set my club and coaching staff in advantage which players stood to train or condition and which were given time off and "mandatory" rest? Jezus. At this level it's all coordinated. It's the last "break" most players get before like January or w/e we have this "winter break".
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Honestly, he's the poster boy emblem for how we've gone wrong: over-hyped, overpaid, occasionally a bit good, technically limited, poor attitude, now ex-international. The sooner we get rid the better, even if that won't be easy
Fingers crossed he gets a positive start, badly need our attacking players to improve and find some consistency.
You would think that the left inside forward position would be perfect for him. The part that worries me is that it demands intensity and that is not something he has shown in 4 years. This is a big 6 months for him.
I'm not sure...it requires good close control and decision making in tight spaces.
All things we know Rashy is not consistently good ad.
I for one can see the CF role as his best bet. Running the channel and finally transorming into a Number 9. He would have all the tools if he want to.
In 22/23 he showed some very good games as the number 9 and scored all sorts of Goals. We almost thougth his Transformation to a useful Number 9 was complete.
His competitors for the Role currently are Hojlung and Zirkzee, both no world beaters. If he puts the finger out of his ass he could really stake a claim for the position in the next 6-7 weeks.
He’s regularly played in his “perfect” positions over the last few years and has regularly been absolutely dog shite.
The truth is his “good” seasons are actually anomalies considering there are only 2 out of the 10 years where he’s done anything of note. Time to move him on.
Amorim probably told him he'll be playing as a poacher and won't have to worry about tracking back so much so he'd be happy with that.
I don't think Amorim uses him as one of the 2 #10's. Definitely think he'll just lead the line.
I think he could be a good 10 if he got his head down and learned what the boss wants. His passing isn't bad at all when he's not sulking.
Better not be wearing earrings under that hat or I’ll be very angry!!!
Agreed, we saw in the clip.. he was being used as a 9 in training. I wouldnt put it past those 3 to be starting against Ipswich...
Amad is someone most fans think should play in the inside right, Mount's best time has been inside left and if he has 2/3 good sessions there, his pressing and movement will be exactly what Amorim wants.
Then there is the 9.. if Rashford shows in training he can make the relevant runs and finish, he will be ahead of the other 2 who have been dreadful.
What clip?
There is a 8 min training clip which kind of shows what positions all players took up in yesterdays training. Rashford was deployed as the 9.
Disclaimer: yes, I know the full squad is not in training.
How dare he train, he should stick to walking about in oversized hoodies with security guards....
Also he should be working harder if he needs to wear a hat.
Good to see him with a smile on his face, very interested to see where he fits in moving forward.
Thanks!
If we go by history.. this is Rashford's time. When a new manager comes in, he excels. His purple patches have been when a new manager comes in. Ole came in and Rashford couldn't stop scoring.. Ten Hag came in and in first season had his best season.
With coaching, a dedicated position, Misfiring strikers, Rashford will probably start as the 9.
The way Amorim wants to play, direct attacking play.. it suits Rashford.
If that happens then let's hope that we will capitalize on that temporary form to sell him next summer. We might as well throw Henry Winter in the deal as well.
The one mistake we cannot make is trusting Rashford. We have done it multiple times only to be bitten.
His purple patch will make us think... "Is Amorim getting the best out of Rashford" but we have to remember, he has never in his career done it for more than 6 months at a time, then he takes 18 months off.
exactly. We have too many players who simply show up at strategic periods of their career (manager change or end of contract) only to return to their shitty old performances once they get what they want (usually a contract extension). On a positive note INEOS doesn't seem to be trigger happy on that regard. They had refused to activate Maguire's contract extension + they refused to give ETH a long term contract after the FA cup win
Is that a surprise? When you bring football people into jobs, they wont be trigger happy.
In the past, how many players got contracts over 2 months form? I can recall Martial, Shaw, Rashford, Jones, all get contracts after form and their agents linked them to clubs, we panic and gave them 200k + a week.
This time, its about football, not who brings in most commercial value.
True but there's more to it I am afraid. Take the ETH's farce in the summer as an example. The guy was dog shit throughout the entire season at par if not worse to Moyes. Then he wins the FA Cup and suddenly everyone (fans, pundits, ex players, influencers) were pushing the club to give him another chance. That's some incredible pressure for a minority owner to sustain. If Rashford or Shaw do well then rest assured the pressure will be even higher then that as they are both English and somehow everyone expects us to act as the cradle of the Ingerlund national team. It will take INEOS some serious character to put its foot down and say no, they are still for sale.
That's the sort of character United need to become dominant again. I mean I remember when SAF sold Ince, Kanchelskis and Hughes and brought no one to replace him. These days many fans laugh at Hansen for his quote but believe me he was among the least irrational at the time. I've seen United fans whose been supporting us since the 60s who thought that the gaffer had seriously lost it. Our share price went down by 1/4 because of that move. United need to return to the 'no one is bigger then the club' era. We are better off risk sinking into mediocrity with the right type of players rather then winning the occasional big game with small time players who cherry pick which games they bother turning up to.
This is utter nonsense isn’t it? He was excellent for 2 years or so under Ole (but ran into injury issues). He was then excellent again for a season under ETH. For his age, he was also performing at a very high level in the seasons before Ole.
His “bad” spells (unsurprisingly) have coincided with the club being at an extremely low ebb, with poor managers implementing bad tactics. If Amorim is competent and Rashford then starts delivering, then that’s a damning indictment on the previous regime NOT Rashford.
Of course, if Amorim gets us playing magical football and Rashford still isn’t producing then the position will be very different. We will obviously then look to exit him and invest in players who do fit the new system.