45 points in 18 games. Realistically, we're looking at 90 points as the target to win the title. That's 45/60 points for Liverpool, 53/57 for Forest, 54/60 for Arsenal and 55/60 for Chelsea.
Terminally online whoppers preoccupy themselves with the owners but there’s no genuine discontent that indicates widespread hatred. No match-goers are holding up banners or staging protests.
45 points in 18 games. Realistically, we're looking at 90 points as the target to win the title. That's 45/60 points for Liverpool, 53/57 for Forest, 54/60 for Arsenal and 55/60 for Chelsea.
City pulled off the 54/60 last season and in 18/19
So, that's the level required for Arsenal to still be in it. Chelsea would need to pull off the greatest last 20 matches in league history
It would take a collapse of truly Mythological proportions for Liverpool to lose the title from here
Edit: mh, I may overstate it a bit, mostly because a 43/60 vs 52/60 wouldn't really be that spectacular a collapse. But anyways, I guess Arsenal fans in particular can take solace from the fact that one such Mythological collapse did happen, and recently: to Arsenal in 22/23
Forget about reigning them in. Just reducing the gap to 3-4 points and staying close already seems to be beyond the other teams.
The thing is, if they win their next game they'll have 48 points in the first 19 games. Sure, they'll likely slow down, but even 40 points gets them to 88. And that's a *big* drop-off for a team good enough for 48 points - more likely it would be something like 42/44. Since 16/17 seven teams managed 45+ points in the first 19 - only 2 of those went below 44 in the second half. Spurs in 18/19 whose collapse went somewhat hidden by the CL run, and then the new season started and they ended up sacking Poch, and Arsenal 2 seasons ago, a young and inexperienced team being chased down by City. And it was still a collapse of frankly historic proportions, honestly more should be made of it.
You’re analysing it from data and nothing else. You haven’t taken into account the mentality needed to see out the league from here. This isn’t Man City or even Ferguson’s United. It’s a team, like our own for the last two years, that has no experience grinding out a title. That alone will make them nervous in the run in.45 points in 18 games. Realistically, we're looking at 90 points as the target to win the title. That's 45/60 points for Liverpool, 53/57 for Forest, 54/60 for Arsenal and 55/60 for Chelsea.
City pulled off the 54/60 last season and in 18/19
So, that's the level required for Arsenal to still be in it. Chelsea would need to pull off the greatest last 20 matches in league history
It would take a collapse of truly Mythological proportions for Liverpool to lose the title from here
Edit: mh, I may overstate it a bit, mostly because a 43/60 vs 52/60 wouldn't really be that spectacular a collapse. But anyways, I guess Arsenal fans in particular can take solace from the fact that one such Mythological collapse did happen, and recently: to Arsenal in 22/23
Not easy to write a serious post where every sentence is wrong. Credit where it’s due.
No, i'm analysing what the data says. Data doesn't happen in a vacuum, teams that good very rarely collapse
Wrong. It's a team made up of 5 PL&CL winners, 2-3 PL&CL runners-up(92 points, going to the last 10 minutes of the last game of the season, while chasing City down), and a WC&2×Copa America winner, in the starting XI
Liverpool not winning the league from here would take something historic - either an all time run from one of the chasing pack, or an apocalyptic collapse. It's not yet quite out of the realm of the possible, but it's getting there
Like most sensible people, I’m not counting the Premier League they “won” in 2020. A farcical campaign, played in empty stadiums that should have been declared void in March 2020. It’s no surprise that Liverpool’s best ever season came during freak circumstances.
I may be wrong but didn't Liverpool drop a handful of points across more than 20 games before Covid even hit? The league was already won.
I looked it up and they were 25 points clear when the league was halted. 82 points from 29 games.
Just a run of the mill WUM then. Disappointing.
Err... it was done and dusted points wise,and in full stadiums, before covid struck.Infact the covid break only hampered liverpools amazing form,and probably why no record points tally was set.In the games where those points were earned,that was the most consistant run of results that a prem team has ever put together.
The league was already done and dusted by the time the Covid lockdown came. I think Pool only needed 7 or 8 more points to win the league. They were that far ahead of the pack, let's keep facts as facts.
But compare them to other title winning sides especially Citys and they dont match up. Liverpool are doing really well this year but it just seems to be all falling into place for them.
We needed 3 more points before the season stopped. We drew at Everton in the first game of the restart, but then won the title after Chelsea beat City a few days later.
Alisson, TAA, VVD, Konate, Mac Allister, Gravenberch, Salah, Diaz all match-up very well.
At this stage, how can they not? There doesn't appear to be a challenger to them.
They're 6 points better off and the advanced numbers point to an even starker difference
Even if they lose 5 games. They will still walk the league. There is no competition this season.
Agree with all of this
I'm most amazed by Gakpp really. Mlnever thought his ceiling would be anywhere as high as what he's done these last few months.
This narrative from opposition fans of Liverpool being an average squad except for Salah does scream of at best 'blinkered bias' or just pure bitterness. Makes me smile anyway. In premier league history there have never been more than two stand out teams challenging, sometimes only one clear at the top. However, when it's Liverpool putting up great numbers, it's because the rest of the league is rubbish and they are being carried by one player. The premier league has now the greatest overall level of competitiveness it has ever had. Teams traditionally down the table now have a sprinkling of very good players capable of very good football. City have caused their own problems yes, but even if they were flying high still, why would Liverpool not be doing the same? If, and it's always a big if till the end, Liverpool end on circa 90+ points, to claim that's being done by a one man team is laughable. Every top team needs it's superstar, Messi, Ronaldo, DeBryune, Cantona, Zidane, L Ronaldo etc. these players get very good teams over the line in big competitions, doesn't make them a one man team.
I'm keeping my prediction from the start of the season, although getting more nervous weekly seeing Arsenal's drop off, that they will smash it (as they are doing now) and then suffer the ultimate collapse towards the end of the season. What better way for it to start than Amorim nicking a draw or win at Anfield on Sunday.
