Liverpool 2024-25 | Definitely winning the EPL well before the end of the season

I didn't watch them against United or any of the other games they dropped points in recently but they looked very good and comfortable against Chelsea yesterday (who admittedly were without their two main goal scoring threats but still).
We’ve basically played like we did against Chelsea since our forwards went down. Pretty solid defence and able to progress into the final third almost at will… and then completely run out of ideas.

Trossard’s form has fallen off a cliff, Martinelli is out of position on the right and Merino is a midfielder playing up front. He’s not even an attacking midfielder playing as a false nine. He’s just a regular old central midfielder playing as a striker for the first time in his career.

At least Nwaneri will be an adult the next time we play so he can get changed in the dressing room with the rest of the squad and hear the team talk.
 
If slot loses that lead in the table he should be sacked

It seems like he’s ridden the remnants of what Klopp left and got lucky so far
 
I think their focus will now be the off-field stuff and whether Salah, VVD and TAA stay or go. If at least two of those three are leaving at the end of the season, there will be a bittersweet tinge to the title celebrations.
 
I can definitely see Liverpool dropping some points away to Fulham, Brighton and Chelsea. They also have Arsenal to play.

But the sad part is Arsenal are so crap with all their injuries. Big shame!
 
If slot loses that lead in the table he should be sacked

It seems like he’s ridden the remnants of what Klopp left and got lucky so far
He quite obviously won't lose that lead. They've been great in the league and hardly ever drop points against weaker teams, not so great in the cups because they can be beaten by a decent team (or Plymouth) on a good day a PSG, Newcastle and multiple teams in the league have proven by now.
 
He quite obviously won't lose that lead. They've been great in the league and hardly ever drop points against weaker teams, not so great in the cups because they can be beaten by a decent team (or Plymouth) on a good day a PSG, Newcastle and multiple teams in the league have proven by now.
I don’t think he will either, 12 points.
His team look completely shattered so the break has come at the right time for them. Would be interesting to see how they turn up against Everton who themselves have their tails up a bit
 
I reckon it's more likely the gap will be even larger come the end of the season than the other way around. Wouldn't surprise me if Forest end up in 2nd place. Arsenal will be focused on the CL from here, Arteta's silly claims notwithstanding.
 
Lucky for him his opposition is so shit. Any semi competent title challenging team would be a threat but sadly there is none this year. Liverpool are a strange bunch, not the first time they've burned out at this stage of the year.
 
If slot loses that lead in the table he should be sacked

It seems like he’s ridden the remnants of what Klopp left and got lucky so far
That would be quite the meltdown. I think it would be quite tight had Arsenal not had their front line all crocked, but they just can't score enough to challenge.

I don't get the impression the Pool players really like him from what I have seen of them, he seems such a negative energy cnut. At least with Klopp, as much as we disliked him, you could see how much of a motivator he was for them and how much energy he gave to the team. Slot just seems like a really dislikeable guy.
 
If Scumpool are going to win the league then Covid year and bascially having won it since September are the 2 best ways for them to have done so. (Nothing worse than a rival winning the league on the last day) Both titles have been anticlimactic trophy lifts that no neutral even cares about. This is a very easily forgotten season for about 18 of the 20 Prem teams so won’t live long in anyones memory.

Chances are they were always going to catch our 20 in my lifetime so to have done so it such an underwhelming manner is perfect given the circumstances.
 
If this was Arsenal of the last two seasons, this would be a real possibility. But our forward line (which already needed strengthening) is absolutely decimated.

Plus Salah is the ultimate flat track bully this season. He’ll ensure they win the games they should be winning and tie things up very quickly.

Unfortunately.
Don't do it to yourself. If it was City chasing Liverpool then maybe there'd be a thread of hope to cling to, but it's Arsenal. The title is already over.

Arsenal have won one of their last four plus they have Madrid to play in the Champions League. Can you honestly see them winning six in a row?
I give it a 5% chance.
 


Hopefully this is code for "I'm fecking off after this season and taking TAA and Salah with me".
 
Think they could easily have another 22/23 season next year.

Their actual performances have been generally poor ever since Tarkowski scored in the 96th minute to deny them a famous last win at Goodison. I think that has impacted them mentally even if they will still comfortably win the league.

I think it was the next game they were 2-0 up v Wolves and then were clinging on at the end and didn't even have a single shot in the second half. Same for most of the game at PSG and yesterday for first hour they didn't do anything in attack.

This was a right hand side with TAA unavailable and Salah anonymous so gives warning for next season given neither will be at the club most likely.

Going to need a big transfer window as Robertson declining on the other flank and I get the feeling they might cash in on Diaz.

I think Slot just rode the momentum of just being a fresh voice to the squad who were all still motivated to win but now after six months it is levelling out so interested what they are competing for next season.
 
@FootballHQ that Wolves game really set the alarm bells ringing. They were atrocious and absolutely battered in the second half.

United fans, in particular, were accused of being bitter when we pointed out their frailties and how results weren’t matching performances, but the whole world is taking notice now.
 
Think they could easily have another 22/23 season next year.

Their actual performances have been generally poor ever since Tarkowski scored in the 96th minute to deny them a famous last win at Goodison. I think that has impacted them mentally even if they will still comfortably win the league.

I think it was the next game they were 2-0 up v Wolves and then were clinging on at the end and didn't even have a single shot in the second half. Same for most of the game at PSG and yesterday for first hour they didn't do anything in attack.
Only partly true, that. We've had Newcastle and City in the league after that Wolves game and those were two very convincing wins against strong opposition. Also had strong spells against PSG at home - so it's not like it's been a continuous downward spiral ever since Everton, just a whole lot more up and down than the beginning of the season.
This was a right hand side with TAA unavailable and Salah anonymous so gives warning for next season given neither will be at the club most likely.

Going to need a big transfer window as Robertson declining on the other flank and I get the feeling they might cash in on Diaz.
Any good inbound transfer will be an upgrade on Robertson, and I think we'll just ride with Bradley for at least one season to replace TAA. Don't know what VVD will do but him staying would be huge for us, not sure if Konate is ready to lead the defensive line (yet or ever will be). Midfield will be unchanged and that might be the most important thing. Our attack is what worries me, Jota and Diaz are not good enough (and/or can't be relied upon) and I think Salah is off (and Nunez but whatever), so that's an entire new front three that we need, with probably limited money available (we were already backtracking in the media last week that Kerkez at £40m would be too expensive).
I think Slot just rode the momentum of just being a fresh voice to the squad who were all still motivated to win but now after six months it is levelling out so interested what they are competing for next season.
Still deserves credit for that and it's not like we've been bad since the turn of the year or anything like that. If I look at our results only last night (inexcusable, dreadful performance), PSG away (overwhelmed and overclassed) and Wolves (inexplicable decline in second half) stand out as down games, with none of those results costing us any points in the league.

It wouldn't surprise me if we came out playing well again after the international break, get 12 out of 12 and are almost uncatchable by Easter. But sadly it also wouldn't surprise me if we draw against Everton then lose at Craven Cottage and the gap is suddenly only 7 points.
 
They're currently 12 and a half points ahead of Arsenal with 9 games left to play.

Remaining fixtures for Liverpool: Everton(h), Fulham(a), West Ham (h), Leicester(a), Spurs(h),Chelsea(a), Arsenal(h), Brighton(a) and Crystal Palace(h)

Remaining fixtures for Arsenal: Fulham(h), Everton(a), Brentford(h),Ipswich(a),Palace(h), Bournemouth(h), Liverpool(a),Newcastle(h), Southampton(a)

If Arsenal win their next six games and Liverpool drop points in three of the next six, lets say draw vs Fulham away and Spurs home and lose to Chelsea away suddenly the Arsenal game becomes very interesting. It is Arsenal who can't be counting on for anything except choking when it matters but they are far enough back that they might not feel that pressure. I'd say we have a 5% chance of the most hilarious end to the season happening. Let's hope Moyes can nick a result at Anfield.

Its Arsenal lads but and a big BUT if Arsenal somehow pull this out of their arse with 'Pool dropping some points it would be one for the ages and crater RAWK.
 
Losing to Plymouth and then PSG and Newcastle now surely disappointing for Liverpool fans but I'm sure back in July if someone told them they'd win the league convincingly they would have been more than happy with that. One defeat in 29 league game and league basically won as early as February. Arsenal losing to West Ham at home and dropping 2 points at Forest ended Arsenal's hopes.

Don't think this Liverpool side is incredible like 2018-20 or 2021/22 were but they're clearly better than the rest. Think TAA and Salah are going to leave but van Dijk to stay for at least another year. They won't be ready to just lose all three of them in same year.
 
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This has become one of the best Jinx threads of the history of Forums
 
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Losing to Plymouth and then PSG and Newcastle now surely disappointing for Liverpool fans but I'm sure back in July if someone told them they'd win the league convincingly, they would have been more than happy with that. One defeat in 29 league game and league basically won as early as February. Arsenal losing to West Ham at home and dropping 2 points at Forest ended Arsenal's hopes.

Don't think this Liverpool side is incredible like 2018-20 or 2021/22 were but they're clearly better than the rest. Think TAA and Salah are going to leave but van Dijk to stay for at least another year. They won't be ready to just lose all three of them in same year.
Very much so, but remains to be seen whether that will be the case now or not. If it's a slugfest towards the end of the season where we drag it over the line becaues Arsenal isn't capable of stringing a few wins in a row together, it might feel a bit... Dunno, not as exciting as a title could be, but I'll take it any way it happens indeed. How it all transpired won't matter anymore once we can raise the trophy.
 
Think they could easily have another 22/23 season next year.

Their actual performances have been generally poor ever since Tarkowski scored in the 96th minute to deny them a famous last win at Goodison. I think that has impacted them mentally even if they will still comfortably win the league.

I think it was the next game they were 2-0 up v Wolves and then were clinging on at the end and didn't even have a single shot in the second half. Same for most of the game at PSG and yesterday for first hour they didn't do anything in attack.

This was a right hand side with TAA unavailable and Salah anonymous so gives warning for next season given neither will be at the club most likely.

Going to need a big transfer window as Robertson declining on the other flank and I get the feeling they might cash in on Diaz.

I think Slot just rode the momentum of just being a fresh voice to the squad who were all still motivated to win but now after six months it is levelling out so interested what they are competing for next season.
Agreed. Outside of being very well organised and certain individuals, there isn't much impressive about them.
 
Liverpool are a weird team. They win too much to be called bottlers but they should have won significantly more trophies over the last 10 years than they have done. I think we've won as much as them haven't we? Albeit without the 2 major honours. Even a couple of the cups they won were on penalties after goalless draws.

I keep saying this but if City were in Arsenal's position I'd be backing them. Arsenal don't have it in them to chase them down.
Should they really have won more? Man City were easily the better team for most of those years. And the CL is always Real's to lose.
 
Very much so, but remains to be seen whether that will be the case now or not. If it's a slugfest towards the end of the season where we drag it over the line becaues Arsenal isn't capable of stringing a few wins in a row together, it might feel a bit... Dunno, not as exciting as a title could be, but I'll take it any way it happens indeed. How it all transpired won't matter anymore once we can raise the trophy.
Correct. I thoroughly dislike Liverpool but youse have earned it this year, annoying as it is.
 
Last time they won the PL, it was over shadowed by Covid and also they knew they had won it well before the season ended.

This time, again they have won it well before the season has ended (it's not the same as wining it in a title race going to the wire). Also getting knocked out of the CL and losing the final in a week must be a hard pill to swallow. And finally they are sweating on 3 of their best players being their next season.

Couldn't make it up!
 
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So the team that has the Premier Leagues best ever GK, CB and RW/attacker gave Newcastle their first trophy in 70 years... got it. Makes sense.
 
Winning the title on the last day vs 10 weeks ahead wouldn’t matter to me.

I wanted United to win the Prem is all, drama be damned. If you want drama, go watch a show on Brodway or the West End.

Should they really have won more? Man City were easily the better team for most of those years. And the CL is always Real's to lose.

Two Prems decided by one point. Two UCLs where the GKs were the difference (Karius’ howlers and Courtios standing on his head).

In another world they have 2-4 more “big” titles.
 
Last time they won the PL, it was over shadowed by Covid and also they knew they had won it well before the season ended.

This time, again they have won it well before the season has ended (it's not the same as wining it in a title race going to the wire). Also getting knocked out of the CL and losing the final in a week must be a hard pill to swallow. And finally they are sweating on 3 of their best players being their next season.

Couldn't make it up!
And yet it looks like we’re gonna win it. It’ll be ok. I promise. 14 years of being behind should be done with soon enough. Then the DEBATE is over for the foreseeable future.
 
Last time they won the PL, it was over shadowed by Covid and also they knew they had won it well before the season ended.

This time, again they have won it well before the season has ended (it's not the same as wining it in a title race going to the wire). Also getting knocked out of the CL and losing the final in a week must be a hard pill to swallow. And finally they are sweating on 3 of their best players being their next season.

Couldn't make it up!
"won the title too early" is jumping the shark a bit here, mate.

Should have gone with "must be boring when you're top of the league in March and contract extension news are more relevant exciting than the outcome of actual games."