Lewis is about a 4-1 favorite. I think the only chance that Klitschko has is if Lewis didn't take the fight seriously. It would be easily for Lewis to look past Klitschko, all the articles here on the fight are about Lewis fighting Roy Jones. It's a good spot for an upset, but Russian fighters usually don't like to get hit and don't take much of a beating. It's watchable.
Lewis-Klitschko
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Definitely watchable. I say Lennox wraps things up mid way.
I don't see Lewis taking him seriously. I think Klitschko may hurt Lewis early, but Lewis comes back and wins the decision. If Klitschko suddenly becomes a Don King fighter, I'll switch sides on who gets the decision.
Vitaly seemed very calm and composed after the weigh in. He said that he's watched every Lennox Lewis fight there is and that he'd been preparing for this fight for a year. It could be an upset of Lennox doesn't focus, but I doubt it.
The last time Lewis went into a fight at 256 pounds was April 21, 2001, when Hasim Rahman KO'd him. Klitschko should be in good shape, so if he's intelligent enough to avoid Lewis for a few rounds, he could make a fight of it. However, if he's going to try to duke it out with Lennox, Vitaly won't see the 4th round.
Dude is so rigid his chin is begging to be hit. Lewis by KO.
Best fight since Bill O'Reilly-Al Franken. 
If Vlad hadn't gotten killed his last fight, I'd pick Vitali outright. I hope it's a goood fight. It wouldn't surprise me too much if Lewis took him out early. The oddsmakers don't see it going the distance (Lewis by decision 3-1; Vitali by decison 10-1). I'm looking forward to seeing it.
If Vlad hadn't gotten killed his last fight, I'd pick Vitali outright. I hope it's a goood fight. It wouldn't surprise me too much if Lewis took him out early. The oddsmakers don't see it going the distance (Lewis by decision 3-1; Vitali by decison 10-1). I'm looking forward to seeing it.
Is it on PPV or HBO ?
HBO, 10pm EST.
Lewis could easily get knocked out by one punch..... he's got dodgy chin.
Having said that, he'll beat the Ukrainian.
Having said that, he'll beat the Ukrainian.
Over/under is 7.5. Any thoughts?
under..
can't see it last the distance, whoever wins.
can't see it last the distance, whoever wins.
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Definitely watchable. I say Lennox wraps things up mid way.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Lewis was lucky.
He's so arrogant right now i was hoping the Russki would knock 7 shades of shite out of him. I almost got my wish
He's so arrogant right now i was hoping the Russki would knock 7 shades of shite out of him. I almost got my wish
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Lewis'll never be a true champion..... one just needs to look at Holyfield and Ali, to see what champs are all about... who can forget the thrilla in Manilla, rumble in the jungle..and Evanders fights against, Riddick Bowe??? These two just didn't give up!! I've never seen Lewis come off the floor and beat someone...like those two.... and thats the difference... Lewis just fights like a scared fighter.....
I wish he'd have fought the likes of Tyson and Holyfield at their peak.
So...what has he actually done??? beat a waaaaaaay over the hill Tyson. Ran away from a past it Holyfield...(twice), got battered by a Ukrainian, knocked out by one punch by McCall and Rahmaan.
The man is lucky to be around in the worst heavyeight division of all time.
I'd love Roy Jones to give him a boxing lesson.....
(tbh..I think lennox was at his best at 16 stone..)
I wish he'd have fought the likes of Tyson and Holyfield at their peak.
So...what has he actually done??? beat a waaaaaaay over the hill Tyson. Ran away from a past it Holyfield...(twice), got battered by a Ukrainian, knocked out by one punch by McCall and Rahmaan.
The man is lucky to be around in the worst heavyeight division of all time.
I'd love Roy Jones to give him a boxing lesson.....
(tbh..I think lennox was at his best at 16 stone..)
Lennox is and should be regarded as one of the all time greats. Trouble is he's old now and its difficult for fighters to maitain the same intensity, speed and stamina they displayed in their late 20s or early 30s. I've got a good feeling that Chris Byrd is probably the true champ and that Lennox might well retire before a Byrd - Lewis fight can be lined up. As for the future, I think Lennox still has one good fight left in him and that fight should be against one of the Klitschko Bros (probably Wlad). If he beats him then he can ride off into the sunset. If he loses, he may well end up retiring anyway because the hill back to the top would take too long.
Klitschko wants a rematch on German soil.
its plain disrespect to ali for lewis to claim hes the best of all time
hes the best at a poor time in the division
hes the best at a poor time in the division
And btw, we need to stop with this business of labelling Lennox as having a weak jaw. Tyson's been knocked out just as many times and no one claims he has one. Everyones entitled to one or two bad fights in their careers. The McCall and Rahman fights were abberations in which Lennox obviously spent more time fecking off at parties and on movie sets than in the gym. All in all, Lennox's record is top notch.
The career record of WBC heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis:
41 Wins, 2 Losses, 1 Draw, 32 Knockouts
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1989
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June 27 -- Al Malcolm, London, KO 2
July 21 -- Bruce Johnson, Atlantic City, TKO 2
Sep. 25 -- Andy Gerrard, London, TKO 4
Oct. 10 -- Steve Garber, Hull, England, KO 2
Nov. 05 -- Melvin Epps, Kensington, England, WDSQ 2
Dec. 18 -- Greg Gorrell, Ontario, TKO 5
1990
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Jan. 31 -- Noel Quarless, London, KO 2
Mar. 22 -- Calvin Jones, Gateshead, England, KO 1
Apr. 14 -- Mike Simuwelu, London, KO 1
May 09 -- Jorge Dascola, London, KO 1
May 20 -- Dan Murphy, Sheffield, England, TKO 6
June 27 -- Ossie Ocasio, Kensington, England, W 8
July 11 -- Mike Acey, Ontario, TKO 2
Oct. 31 -- Jean Chanet, London, TKO 6
1991
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Mar. 06 -- Gary Mason, London, TKO 6
July 12 -- Mike Weaver, Stateline, Nevada, KO 6
Sep. 30 -- Glenn McCrory, Kensington, England, KO 2
Nov. 23 -- Tyrell Biggs, Atlanta, TKO 3
1992
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Feb. 01 -- Levi Billups, Las Vegas, W 10
Apr. 30 -- Derek Williams, London, KO 3
Aug. 11 -- Mike Dixon, Atlantic City, TKO 4
Oct. 31 -- Razor Ruddock, London, KO 2 (*)
1993
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May 08 -- Tony Tucker, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Oct. 01 -- Frank Bruno, Cardif, Wales, TKO 7
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1994
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May 06 -- Phil Jackson, Atlantic City, KO 8
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 24 -- Oliver McCall, London, TKOBY 2
(Lost WBC heavyweight title)
1995
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May 13 -- Lionell Butler, Sacramento, KO 5
July 02 -- Justin Fortune, Dublin, TKO 4
Oct. 07 -- Tommy Morrison, Atlantic City, TKO 6
1996
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May 10 -- Ray Mercer, New York City, W 12
1997
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Feb. 07 -- Oliver McCall, Las Vegas, TKO 5
(Regained WBC heavyweight title)
July 12 -- Henry Akinwande, Lake Tahoe, WDSQ 5
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Oct. 04 -- Andrew Golota, Atlantic City, KO 1
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1998
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Mar. 28 -- Shannon Briggs, Atlantic City, TKO 5
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 26 -- Zeljko Mavrovic, Uncasville, Connecticut, W 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1999
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Mar. 13 -- Evander Holyfield, New York, D 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Nov. 13 -- Evander Holyfield, Las Vegas, W 12
(Captured undisputed world heavyweight title)
2000
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Apr. 29 -- Michael Grant, New York, KO 2
(Retained undisputed world heavyweight title)
July 15 -- Frans Botha, London, TKO 2
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
Nov. 11 -- David Tua, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2001
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Apr. 21 -- Hasim Rahman, Johannesburg, South Africa, KOBY 5
(Lost WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
Nov. 17 -- Hasim Rahman, Las Vegas, KO 4
(Regained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2002
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June 08 -- Mike Tyson, Memphis, Tennessee, KO 8
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2003
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June 21 -- Vitali Klitschko, Los Angeles, California, TKO 6
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
* - Lewis' bout with Ruddock was a title eliminator. Lewis was
awarded the belt when Riddick Bowe surrendered the title in December.
The career record of WBC heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis:
41 Wins, 2 Losses, 1 Draw, 32 Knockouts
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1989
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June 27 -- Al Malcolm, London, KO 2
July 21 -- Bruce Johnson, Atlantic City, TKO 2
Sep. 25 -- Andy Gerrard, London, TKO 4
Oct. 10 -- Steve Garber, Hull, England, KO 2
Nov. 05 -- Melvin Epps, Kensington, England, WDSQ 2
Dec. 18 -- Greg Gorrell, Ontario, TKO 5
1990
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Jan. 31 -- Noel Quarless, London, KO 2
Mar. 22 -- Calvin Jones, Gateshead, England, KO 1
Apr. 14 -- Mike Simuwelu, London, KO 1
May 09 -- Jorge Dascola, London, KO 1
May 20 -- Dan Murphy, Sheffield, England, TKO 6
June 27 -- Ossie Ocasio, Kensington, England, W 8
July 11 -- Mike Acey, Ontario, TKO 2
Oct. 31 -- Jean Chanet, London, TKO 6
1991
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Mar. 06 -- Gary Mason, London, TKO 6
July 12 -- Mike Weaver, Stateline, Nevada, KO 6
Sep. 30 -- Glenn McCrory, Kensington, England, KO 2
Nov. 23 -- Tyrell Biggs, Atlanta, TKO 3
1992
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Feb. 01 -- Levi Billups, Las Vegas, W 10
Apr. 30 -- Derek Williams, London, KO 3
Aug. 11 -- Mike Dixon, Atlantic City, TKO 4
Oct. 31 -- Razor Ruddock, London, KO 2 (*)
1993
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May 08 -- Tony Tucker, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Oct. 01 -- Frank Bruno, Cardif, Wales, TKO 7
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1994
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May 06 -- Phil Jackson, Atlantic City, KO 8
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 24 -- Oliver McCall, London, TKOBY 2
(Lost WBC heavyweight title)
1995
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May 13 -- Lionell Butler, Sacramento, KO 5
July 02 -- Justin Fortune, Dublin, TKO 4
Oct. 07 -- Tommy Morrison, Atlantic City, TKO 6
1996
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May 10 -- Ray Mercer, New York City, W 12
1997
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Feb. 07 -- Oliver McCall, Las Vegas, TKO 5
(Regained WBC heavyweight title)
July 12 -- Henry Akinwande, Lake Tahoe, WDSQ 5
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Oct. 04 -- Andrew Golota, Atlantic City, KO 1
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1998
----
Mar. 28 -- Shannon Briggs, Atlantic City, TKO 5
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Sep. 26 -- Zeljko Mavrovic, Uncasville, Connecticut, W 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
1999
----
Mar. 13 -- Evander Holyfield, New York, D 12
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
Nov. 13 -- Evander Holyfield, Las Vegas, W 12
(Captured undisputed world heavyweight title)
2000
----
Apr. 29 -- Michael Grant, New York, KO 2
(Retained undisputed world heavyweight title)
July 15 -- Frans Botha, London, TKO 2
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
Nov. 11 -- David Tua, Las Vegas, W 12
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2001
----
Apr. 21 -- Hasim Rahman, Johannesburg, South Africa, KOBY 5
(Lost WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
Nov. 17 -- Hasim Rahman, Las Vegas, KO 4
(Regained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2002
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June 08 -- Mike Tyson, Memphis, Tennessee, KO 8
(Retained WBC-IBF heavyweight titles)
2003
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June 21 -- Vitali Klitschko, Los Angeles, California, TKO 6
(Retained WBC heavyweight title)
* - Lewis' bout with Ruddock was a title eliminator. Lewis was
awarded the belt when Riddick Bowe surrendered the title in December.
nt if klitschKO kills him in the rematch
I know his record...
but like I've stated above....i've never seen him fight like a champion...
Did you see his fights against Evander?? he looked scared in both fights..and ran like a poof.(Holyfield, didn't look interested btw)
Like Ruddy's said....he's the best out of a bad bunch.
I was a fan of his.... sadly, he didn't turn out as good as he should've.(I think moving beyond 17 stone has a lot to do with it)
The thing is true champs don't get knocked out by one punch....(twice in his case.)
PS..I can recall his fight against Bruno, boy, did Frank, make him look silly.... yes, this is the same Bruno who was knocked out in 4 by Iron Mike.....who then was at his peak... unlike against Lewis.
The only fighters I regard as all time greats over the last 15 odd years are Evander and Tyson... Lewis simply didn't do enough(had he leathered Evander I might have thought different, even though Holyfield was a pale shadow of his best.....)
but like I've stated above....i've never seen him fight like a champion...
Did you see his fights against Evander?? he looked scared in both fights..and ran like a poof.(Holyfield, didn't look interested btw)
Like Ruddy's said....he's the best out of a bad bunch.
I was a fan of his.... sadly, he didn't turn out as good as he should've.(I think moving beyond 17 stone has a lot to do with it)
The thing is true champs don't get knocked out by one punch....(twice in his case.)
PS..I can recall his fight against Bruno, boy, did Frank, make him look silly.... yes, this is the same Bruno who was knocked out in 4 by Iron Mike.....who then was at his peak... unlike against Lewis.
The only fighters I regard as all time greats over the last 15 odd years are Evander and Tyson... Lewis simply didn't do enough(had he leathered Evander I might have thought different, even though Holyfield was a pale shadow of his best.....)
Lewis is one of the best of all time IMO.
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>I know his record...
but like I've stated above....i've never seen him fight like a champion...
Did you see his fights against Evander?? he looked scared in both fights..and ran like a poof.(Holyfield, didn't look interested btw)
Like Ruddy's said....he's the best out of a bad bunch.
I was a fan of his.... sadly, he didn't turn out as good as he should've.(I think moving beyond 17 stone has a lot to do with it)
The thing is true champs don't get knocked out by one punch....(twice in his case.)
PS..I can recall his fight against Bruno, boy, did Frank, make him look silly.... yes, this is the same Bruno who was knocked out in 4 by Iron Mike.....who then was at his peak... unlike against Lewis.
The only fighters I regard as all time greats over the last 15 odd years are Evander and Tyson... Lewis simply didn't do enough(had he leathered Evander I might have thought different, even though Holyfield was a pale shadow of his best.....)
Anyone can get knocked out by a lucky punch, but not anyone can dominate the heavyweight division for an entire decade. Tyson didn't, Holyfield didn't, Holmes didn't. Many others didn't. Lewis just doesnt have the vicious or polished demeanor of the afforementioned but he just continues winning.
Agree 100% with giggzy on this. Lewis has never fought a top calibre fighter at the peak of his career who could ever be held up against some of the better fighters in the heavyweight division of the years.
Lewis is all about making money, and lots of it for fighting mediocre fighters or over the hill fighters. Klitschko is the first he's fought who has been in his prime and look what happened. I don't imagine Lewis will go for the rematch because he will lose, that is unless he just wants another 15 million.
Lewis is all about making money, and lots of it for fighting mediocre fighters or over the hill fighters. Klitschko is the first he's fought who has been in his prime and look what happened. I don't imagine Lewis will go for the rematch because he will lose, that is unless he just wants another 15 million.
You can never compare anyone to Ali in my opinion.
However Lewis has shown he is a true champion and I have always been a big fan of his.
He can only fight who is around at the time like any other era so to say this guy would have beaten him or not is futile.
When you see what he did to Kitchkos face you have to give credit for his power - first time this guy has been stopped.
Age is catching up with Lewis and I hope he goes out where he deserves - on top as undisputed Champion of the World.
However Lewis has shown he is a true champion and I have always been a big fan of his.
He can only fight who is around at the time like any other era so to say this guy would have beaten him or not is futile.
When you see what he did to Kitchkos face you have to give credit for his power - first time this guy has been stopped.
Age is catching up with Lewis and I hope he goes out where he deserves - on top as undisputed Champion of the World.
I agree with you to a point MOT - credit to Lewis for beating most of what's been put in his way, and credit to him for mashing up Klitschko's face, although once it's opened up a cut like that won't take long before it looks as bad as it does in the pic you have posted, but the fact remains that Lewis is not an all time great. He cannot be considered as one ever imo. He had the possibility to fight Tyson years ago and refused the fight because he knew he'd lose (when Tyson was in his prime) and fought him when he wasn't even a shadow of his former self.
I'll confess that I was a fan of his, earlier on in his career.......
However this changed....and I saw him for the above average fighter he is.... why??
1. He should've destroyed that joke, Frank.... instead, he nearly got beat...had it not been for a 'lucky timed' punch......(yes, nearly got beat by a past it BRUNO!!!!!!!)
2. Two ONE punch knockouts.... yes I hear, Raoul....but any champ who's lost can claim a lack of motivation... (I don't know many champs who've been knocked out by one punch in the early rounds.)
3 His fights against a washed up Holyfield. Iam sorry, but as the contender...and the younger fighter, he should've took the fight to Evander......but instead, he hid behind his jab...for 12 rounds. As soon as Evander went on the offesive he panicked, hardly the sign of a champ.
I would've loved to have seen him against Tyson, Evander, Bowe.....and even that clown, Bruno at their peak..... ATM he's the best out of a bad bunch....thats all.
However this changed....and I saw him for the above average fighter he is.... why??
1. He should've destroyed that joke, Frank.... instead, he nearly got beat...had it not been for a 'lucky timed' punch......(yes, nearly got beat by a past it BRUNO!!!!!!!)
2. Two ONE punch knockouts.... yes I hear, Raoul....but any champ who's lost can claim a lack of motivation... (I don't know many champs who've been knocked out by one punch in the early rounds.)
3 His fights against a washed up Holyfield. Iam sorry, but as the contender...and the younger fighter, he should've took the fight to Evander......but instead, he hid behind his jab...for 12 rounds. As soon as Evander went on the offesive he panicked, hardly the sign of a champ.
I would've loved to have seen him against Tyson, Evander, Bowe.....and even that clown, Bruno at their peak..... ATM he's the best out of a bad bunch....thats all.