La Liga/Serie A/BuLi Draft - 1st Rd mazhar13/Boycott vs Marty1968

Who will win with player peaks in the specified leagues (not career peaks)?


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Please remember that players should only be judged by their performances in their assigned leagues for this draft (not career peak)

Lineups
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Tactics:


Team Mazhar13/Boycott
Team Strategy
Overview: Our team comprises of technically and tactically astute footballers, who have the qualities in their individual make up to allow for a fluid, dynamic and efficient style of play. Versatility is key in our selection. Not limited to positional versatility, but to have players from back to front who can contribute both in the defensive phase and the attacking phase in the game. Our players tick the first two boxes mentioned at the start, and added with the physical aspect, we have a team which can fulfill this vision.

Set up: We don't play to a set formation. What starts out as a 4-2-3-1 can transition into a 4-4-2, a 4-3-1-2 and even to three at the back. The beauty of our selection is we have the profile of players to do this.

In goal we have one of the greatest keepers of all time. Kahn was a colossus. A leader by example and by presence. Not only have we got a keeper of tremendous quality, we have someone who organises, absorbs pressure and is up for all challenges. Aldair and Pique at center half are exemplary when it comes to building from the back. Both have the ability to take strides out from the back and make the right pass at the right moment. Both can deal with the ball under pressure. This is vital to have, especially when against teams who press high as we can play our way out. Serginhoprovides fantastic energy and attacking quality in the left back position. He played every position down the left and his dribbling and speed gives us an outlet and a quality one at that. At right full back is Chendo. Not so much attacking thrust in his game, but he was a speedy defender and used speed coupled with fantastic awareness and defensive nous to be an excellent right back who at the height of his powers nullified the best.

Cocu is a fine example of a multi-functional footballer. His tenaciousness and stamina meant he could go up and down all game. His close control and intelligence meant he could be used in the playmaker role. His awareness and timing of the tackle meant he was able to play at the back. But add all these qualities together and you have a top quality, complete midfielder. We'll be having him in front of the defence where he can slot back when one of the center backs make a stride forward, but on the main we'll use his ability to control the game from deep as a key way to winning.Emerson provides defensive nous and strength to our midfield. His ability to read the game and win challenges will act as perfect foil to our creative players. He is also comfortable on the ball too which means so his all round style will provide balance to our midfield. Next to him is Uwe Bein. A German playmaker with tremendous close control and vision, he can instigate play from deep combining with our various technically gifted players, but with Cocu screening, he can drift forward and look for the killer pass.

Donadoni could beat defenders with ease. Be it accelerating away, jinky runs twisting and turning and doing so at speed, he was a wide man in the purest sense. His defensive contribution will be valuable too. He'll be able to take us up the field but off the ball he was coached to do his tracking back, but also having played centrally from time to time, he can tuck in and close the space. With Chendo behind we have a balanced flank, and with quality on both fronts.Wynton Rufer had an eye for goal and will dovetail nicely coming in from the left. His speed will lead to a deadly combination with Serginho and his movement will enable Balon d'Or winner Shevchenko to do his thing. He ticks all boxes as a center forward. Intelligent in his movement, clever in his use of his body, and clinical in front of goal we have a striker of the highest order.

So overall our team compliments excellently and this factor will enable us to be a force. We have the individuals to make the difference. And the individuals make up a collective where we tick the fundamentals of the game emphatically and then some.

 
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Team Marty1968

Formation: 5-4-1


My team will line up with three excellent CB’s and two wing-backs, both of which have outstanding energy and defensive capabilities. My back three has arguably the best man marker in the draft. Costacurta was a wonderful defender with great tactical intelligence, excellent technique and a real competitive streak. His job will be to mark Shevchenko, leaving Berthold to pick up Rufer. Mihailjovic will run the back line, dropping deep when needed and pushing up alongside Gattuso when my team has the ball. His excellent distribution will be key to springing counter attacks, with multiple outlets available from my front four.



Have chosen to play Berthold on the right side of the back three rather than as a wing back (which he was more effective at while in another league – Serie A). When back in the Bundesliga he was more often a CB than full-back, although in this game would be able to interchange with Babbel freely if necessary as both players were excellent in either position.

On either side I have two excellent full-backs. Benarrivo was one of the golden generation of players at Parma that brought the club 2 UEFA cup successes and Cup Winners Cup as well as two Copa Italia’s. Both he and Babbel had tremendous energy and were defensively very solid. My tactics and players around them will enable them both to get forward and help contain my opponent’s full-backs.

In front of my three CB’s I have Gattuso. In his prime he was regarded as one of the best defensive midfielders in the world due to his competitiveness, tenacity and outstanding leadership on the pitch. Gattuso’s job here is to sit in front of the back three, disrupt Luis Enrique/Emerson, and prevent any balls up to Shevchenko. An absolute warrior on the pitch.

Hungry for victory and has an aggressiveness that constantly pressures his opponents and this helps to inspire the other players in his team. Also great awareness on the ball.

As Zlatan describes Gattuso “If I’m relaxing I know that Rino will be behind me giving me the motivation and adrenaline I need. When Rino doesn’t play, the dressing room is silent and nobody talks. But when Rino is there, he talks to everyone and gives everyone the motivation they need. He arrives with an incredible determination. On the field he’s an animal, without him we cannot do it.”



In front of Gattuso I have three players who were all excellent on the ball and had tremendous energy. Seedorf was one of the most complete midfielders in Europe in his peak and could play either in a central role or on the left. He had excellent awareness, passing ability, was outstanding defensively and a real attacking threat. With Benarrivo up and down the left flank he will be able to drift inside to help link up play with Scholl, McManaman and Zamorano. Scored some wonderful goals in his time at Madrid including this beauty.






McManaman is another versatile player who most definitely had his best years in a Madrid shirt, helping them to two Champions League wins. During his time at the club, he played in almost every midfield position and won the hearts of the fans through his incredible work-rate. Man of the Match in the 2000 CL final, scoring a lovely goal to boot, he will provide my team with a real threat in attack. An outstanding winger, he will also cut inside, allowing Babbel to overlap in the same way that Benarrivo will on the left. Macca’s dribbling, creativity, passing and work-rate will be constant threat to Serginho and will prevent Serginho from being able to attack too frequently.

Scholl was wonderful for club and country and will sit nicely behind Zamorano. 5th on the all-time list for assists in the Bundesliga, he had incredible awareness, agility, dribbling ability and was excellent from set pieces. Twice voted in ESM’s Team of the Year during his time at Munich (1995-96 and 2000-01), he was a key part of their success during that time, which included 8 league titles, 5 German cups, a Champions League and UEFA Cup. An incredibly creative player who my opponents will need to man mark if they are going to stop him running the show here.

In 2001 he was voted Player of the Year in Germany and in 2005 Munich fans voted him one of the eleven greatest Bayern players of all time.

Rank/Name/Country/Age/Games/Assists

1 Andreas Möller Deutschland 47 428 107
2 Gerd Müller Deutschland 69 427 106
3 Franck Ribéry Frankreich 31 193 99
4 Zé Roberto Brasilien 40 336 97
5 Mehmet Scholl Deutschland 44 392 91
6 Thomas Häßler Deutschland 48 400 85
7 Wolfgang Overath Deutschland 71 409 83
8 Mario Basler Deutschland 46 262 79
9 Dariusz Wosz Deutschland 45 324 77
10 Jürgen Grabowski Deutschland 70 441 76




https://youtu.be/DnHCEWJ4UCU



Tenacity and goals personified. In four seasons with Real Madrid Iván Zamorano scored 100 goals and was a menace to most defences. NicknamedBam Bam, he was fundamental in the conquest of the 1994/95 La Liga title, where he was the league’s leading scorer (28 goals).

Scored 101 goals in 173 matches, including a lovely hat-trick against Barca, he was voted foreign player of the year in 1995.

https://youtu.be/hOjDK_hlTbs

Zamorano will have no problems leading the line by himself in this set up. His energy and pace will cause problems for Pique who is slow and prone to mistakes when put under pressure (something he doesn’t get too often at Barca). Will supply coming from Seedorf, Scholl, McManaman and both full-backs, I can see my team creating plenty of opportunities.



Our Strengths

My team has a great balance to it, offering attacking threat and defensive solidity. I have a back three who are all comfortable on the ball, have fantastic awareness and will be able to keep tabs on Sheva. Donadoni will be a threat but with Babbel and Berthold on that side of the pitch, plus Macca’s energy to track back I don’t see him being as effective as in this game.

Through the middle Luis Enrique/Emerson will be up against ‘the machine’ Gattuso with Mihaijlovic able to step up and assist, plus Seedorf’s work-rate to snuff out any danger.

In attack I have real pace, creativity and flair. Scholl will have a lot of the ball and will require Emerson to mark him. This will leave space for Seedorf and Macca to attack and feed balls to Zamorano. Aldair was a fine CB but not the quickest. Same can be said for Pique (who is overrated in my opinion). He’s prone to errors and the trickery of my front four will cause all sorts of problems.

https://youtu.be/6hMXtSIUSO4


Kahn in between the posts is a fine choice and will do well to score past him, but I have plenty of avenues to goal including some free kick experts in the shape of Scholl, Mihaijlovic and Seedorf.

A tight game no doubt, but I’d fancy to win this by a goal or two.
 
Leagues representation:

Mazhar13/Boycott

La Liga:

Chendo
Pique
Luis Enrique
Cocu

Bundesliga:
Kahn
Bein
Emerson
Rufer

Serie A:
Donadoni
Aldair
Serginho
Shevchenko

Marty1968
Bundesliga:

Lehmann (GER) – Schalke 1988-1998, Dortmund 1999-2003, VfB Stuttgart 2008-2010

Babbel (GER) – Hamburg 1992-1994, Bayern Munich 1994-2000

Berthold (GER) – Bayern Munich 1991-1993, VfB Stuttgart 1993-2000

Scholl (GER) – Bayern Munich 1992-2007


La Liga

Seedorf (HOL) – Real Madrid 1996-1999

McManaman (ENG) – Real Madrid 1999-2003

Zamorano (CHI) – Real Madrid 1992-1996

SUB: Butragueno (SPA) – Real Madrid 1984-1995


Serie A

Benarrivo (ITA) – Parma 1991-2004

Costacurta (ITA) – AC Milan 1986-2007

Gattuso (ITA) – AC Milan 1999-2012

Mihaijlovic (YUG) – Roma 1992-1994, Sampdoria 1994-1998, Lazio 1998-2004
 
@Rado_N can you make a poll for us as always?

Who will win with player peaks in the specified leagues (not career peaks)?
Team mazhar13/Boycott
Team Marty1968

Cheers Rado!
 
PLAYER PROFILES

Goalkeeper: Oliver Kahn

Mad. Scary. Ruthless. Commanding. Whatever one word you can think of to describe Kahn, there certainly is one word that describes him well: successful. The list itself is very, very long, with 8 Bundesligas, 1 Champions League, 8 Best Bundesliga Keeper awards, 3 IFFHS World's Best Keeper awards, and the 2002 FIFA World Cup Golden Ball (only keeper to win this) being the highlights.

On the pitch, he was a commanding presence who made everyone know who was the boss. He kept his defenders on their toes and made sure that they were alert to any danger around them. On his own skills, he had cat-like reflexes, a long reach, strong hands, and a great jump. Kahn knew where he and the goal were at all times, and he positioned himself perfectly at every moment to make it as difficult as possible for the opponents to score. Heck, he was also quite good at coming out of the line to close down the opponent in 1-on-1 situations.

He may not have been as good on the ball as Neuer was, but he sure was a great keeper first and foremost, and for me, he's definitely up there as a GOAT keeper.



Defence

Chendo
"One-club man" is rarely something one will associate with any Real Madrid player, but in Chendo's case, it applies perfectly. Since the age of 15, Chendo has belonged to Real Madrid, and even to this day, he still works for them as a match delegate. Loyalty.

However, there was a reason he was at Real Madrid for his whole career. He was always reliable as a right back, and he was one of their few top class right backs that they've ever had. His sacrifice and commitment to the club showed on the pitch as he was defensively solid, dependable, and tenacious. His pace, energy levels, astute positioning, and strong man marking made him tough to get past, and on the ball, he was quite skillful, most famously nutmegging Diego Maradona when he kept him quiet and got a clean sheet against Napoli in the Champions League quarter final in 1988. However, his defensive reliability meant that he was instructed to stay back and keep Real Madrid's right side solid whilst his teammates took care of creating chances.

The famous Maradona nutmeg moment:


Aldair
Roma have always adored players who stick with them through thick and thin, and Aldair is certainly one of those. A hall of famer for Roma, he spent 13 years at Roma with 330 appearances for them, winning one Coppa Italia, Serie A, World Cup, Confederations Cup, and Copa America during that period. He was so adored by fans that his number 6 was retired when he left Roma (until Strootman came in and brought that number back). It was not for nothing that Aldair was adored, as he resisted the lure of bigger and better clubs to stick with Roma, and his abilities as a defender also brought in adulation. Playing with several different defensive partners, Aldair was the one constant in their back line until he left them in 2003, and there is a reason for that.

Aldair is a complete defender, possessing all in his game. He was strong in the air and tackle. He positioned himself very well for all situations. His reading of the game was useful in anticipating the opponents' attacking moves and cutting them off. His marking enabled him to stick to players quicker and faster than him. On the ball, he was quite skilled. At Roma, he would often carry the ball forward and play accurate passes to his teammates, creating chances in the process as well. Quite often, Roma would field him as a libero just to get him on the ball more often and start attacking plays. Another reason Roma fans loved him is because of his leadership at the back, maintaining the team's composure and control over the game with his presence and leadership. His docile nature meant that he was a clean player throughout his career as well.



Gerard Piqué
When Piqué left Manchester United for Barcelona, not many thought that he would make the instant impact that he did. Ferdinand and Vidić were too good, and Piqué wasn't able to displace them during his time there. Having left Man. Utd., though, he won the treble in his first season, facing his former team in the Champions League final and keeping the likes of Rooney and C. Ronaldo quiet for much of the match. Since he came back home, he's been a mainstay for Barcelona, playing 354 times and starting 324 of those matches. As part of Pep's amazing team and Luis Enrique's more attacking, direct side, he's been a key player for them on both going forward and defending. With 5 La Ligas, 3 Copa del Reys, and 3 Champions Leagues.

Piqué was very good on the ball, and it's one of the reasons he was so crucial to Barcelona's fluid, quick, possession-oriented game. His control and skill on the ball is a great asset in evading opponents' tackles and pressure. Off the ball, he's a solid, proactive defender, with good tackling and heading ability, and solid tactical awareness to quickly ancitipate the opponents' attacks and stop them before they go too far. Barcelona will definitely be thankful that we let him go at the right time for him to be a part of a their most successful period ever.



Serginho
Adored by many AC Milan fans, Serginho came to AC Milan in his 30's, but his age didn't affect his performances at all. Even in his 30's, he was quick, fast, and full of energy, as he and Cafu ran the show on each side for AC Milan. With 2 Champions Leagues, 1 Scudetto, and 1 Coppa Italia, Serginho was quite a successful player there.

With speed, agility, and a neverending reserve of energy, Serginho ran the left wing in AC Milan's diamond setup. His dribbling, crossing, and runs made him a useful outlet on the left side, providing width, deliveries, and goals from there. His neverending stamina was useful both in defence and attack, always keeping up with whoever he faced off the ball, and always getting away from his opposing markers on the ball.

 
Mazhar/Boycott need to have Emerson in their team (rules state 3 outfield players from each league and they only have two from Bundesliga...)
 
Midfield

Phillip Cocu
One of my personal favourites, Cocu is a proper, typical Dutch total footballer. Strong at both ends of the pitch, he was one of the few Dutch players Barcelona warmed up to during their tough spell in the early 2000's. Even during that tough time, he at least had one La Liga title for Barcelona, scoring 12 goals in that season. For his whole spell there, he was one of the first names on the team sheet, being a regular first 11 player and being ever reliable for Barcelona.

When he started his career, Cocu started off as a left winger before being moved to central midfield whilst maintaining the attacking role, showing great skill and technique as well as a knack of scoring goals. When van Gaal got him for Barcelona, he was used as a box-to-box midfielder, being strong at both the defensive and attacking phases. When van Gaal left the club, Cocu was pushed into more defensive roles by the other head coaches as they wanted to fully utilise his excellent defensive ability, eventually settling into a defensive midfield role and even playing as a central defender in a few instances. Such is the level of talent in Cocu, and it truly demonstrated his completeness. His loyalty to Barcelona during their tough spell is proven by his 291 total appearances for Barcelona, which were the most by any foreigner until a certain Lionel Messi broke that.



Luis Enrique
Let's list the positions he's played in: striker, second striker, attacking midfielder, left winger, right winger, central midfielder, defensive midfielder, and full back. He's played pretty much everywhere and been useful in pretty much every phase of play. A leader on the pitch, Lucho's tenacious, hardworking, and never-say-die attitude has made him a fans' favourite wherever he was.

His standout qualities include his versatility, his skill, and his tireless nature. He would run on and on, non-stop, and he'd keep on fighting until the final whistle is blown. What makes him stand out is the number of crucial and comeback goals that he's scored, particularly for Barcelona. That, combined with his versatility and determined approach to all matches, made him a Barcelona legend.



Uwe Bein
He's not that well-known to many people, but those who know him know that he's one of the best attacking midfielders Germany had in the 1990's. Franz Beckenbauer stated that he had the "killer pass" and that was very true about him. One of the most creative midfielders of the Bundesliga, Bein was also a skilled dribbler and goalscorer. His success includes the 1990 World Cup title in which he was involved in 4 out of 6 matches.

Starting off at Kickers Offenbach in the lower divisions, Bein came up as a hugely talented player, scoring 72 goals in 153 games for them (in his final season, when Kickers were at the Bundesliga, he scored 14 goals in 34 appearances). When he moved to FC Köln, he was deployed in a deeper role, scoring fewer goals, but that only enhanced his passing and playmaking, thus starting the path towards becoming the "deadly passer". Many Bundesliga teams were after him at the time, but Hamburg got him eventually. Initially, he struggled there, with several Hamburg fans questioning whether he could really step to the level of the Bundesliga. Having stated that, the whole team was in transition, and player power was rife there. Bein, being introverted and shy, struggled to settle into the team. However, once Willi Reimann came in and cleaned up the mess, Bein started to show what he was all about, particularly in the second season, when he scored 15 goals in 28 matches. After that second season, though, he moved to Eintracht Frankfurt, where he constantly challenged for the Bundesliga and made players like Jay-Jay Okocha and Tony Yeboah thrive.

For Die Mannschaft, things weren't as rosy. He did play 4 out of 6 matches in the 1990 World Cup, but Möller wasn't happy about the lack of match time. Luckily for him, Bein got injured, and Möller got a look in, culminating in a final where Bein wasn't involved. He didn't participate at all in Euro 92, and when Vogts took over, he rarely got a look into the national team, retiring in 1993 as he frequently got overlooked for his fellow German counterparts. His soft personality may have played a role here, and if he probably had a stronger personality, he might have had a bigger legacy for the German national team, and his reputation wouldn't just be locked into the Bundesliga.



Roberto Donadoni
He was one of the best wingers, if not the best, Italy ever had. He was one of the first players bought in the Berlusconi era, and he certainly was one of Berlusconi's best buys. During his time in AC Milan, he won 6 Serie A's and 3 European Cups. It's scary to think that he almost died during a football match (1989/90 European Cup), and luckily for AC Milan, Italy, and football fans all around the world, the Red Star's physiotherapist was on hand to save his life.

Donadoni was a complete attacker who had it all in his locker. This, combined with his stamina and hardworking nature, made him perfect for Sacchi and Capello in their 4-4-2. He played on both sides and as an attacking midfielder, but he mainly played as a right winger, though under Sacchi, you'd expect him to be involved everywhere. His close control, agility, and feints made him tough to read and contain. His creativity and deliveries from out wide and through the middle created lots of chances for his teammates. His two-footedness made him dangerous cutting inside and going outside, particularly with his long shots, which were always precise. He also always tracked back and supported his teammates defensively, showing tactical awareness and the willingness to work for the team. He really was the perfect player for any football team.



Emerson
No, not the one who played for Middlesbrough. Emerson Ferreira da Rosa was a solid and tenacious yet elegant defensive midfielder who combined his steel and energy with his amazing skill on the ball. When he started off in Brazil, he played a more attacking role, but since he moved to Europe (starting at Bayer Leverkusen), he has played as a defensive midfielder for the rest of his career. That didn't stop him from getting involved in the attacks, though, where he demonstrated precise control and dribbling as well as perfectly-weighted passes that dissected defences. Wherever he went, he always challenged for honours and even won some trophies, and wherever he was, his teams were always strong in midfield and tough to break open.

 
Forwards

Wynton Rufer
I could write up a passage about him here, but I think I'll let the man himself explain his story:



If you didn't bother watching the above video, here's a video that perfectly sums up why we picked Rufer (#11 for Werder Bremen):



Andriy Shevchenko
I'll be honest, I was happy that Shevchenko was so poor for Chelsea because he really was an amazing player before that. A complete forward, Shevchenko could do it all, and he was one of the best strikers in the world in that time. His clinical finishing, close control, and precise dribbling made him a menace to all defences, regardless of who he faced. He really could score in all ways: headers, chips, power strikes, placed shots, long drives, curled shots...everything. Off the ball, he was hardworking, always closing down opponents and never letting go of them.

Sheva's list of honours is very, very long, with the highlights being his 1 Scudetto, 1 Coppa Italia, 1 Champions League, and 1 Ballon d'Or in 2004. If you want to check them out, you can go to his wikipedia page to see all of them.

 
From first glance I think Marty's team is a little light in attack. I really don't see the point in Mihajlovic considering he has Gattuso as a destroyer and screening the defence. 4-4-2 diamond with McManaman and Seedorf providing width is much better option.

In this set up he relies solely on Zamorano with Scholl supporting. Seedorf in Real was more of a LM or tucked in with great engine unlike his Milan days where he was more central.

Seedorf and McManaman tucked in providing width on each flank is the more viable option for me.

Mazhar has 3 attackers - Rufer as inside forward on the left, Donadoni as right winger and Sheva on top. Don't think there is a need for 5 defenders(including 3 CB's) and Gattuso as DM.
In this set up I think Mazhar has more attacking options and effectively he'd win the game. If there are 2 forwards in Marty's side IMO it will look whole lot different.
 
Can't see Marty's formation, am I the only one? (maybe it's a work thing)
 
From first glance I think Marty's team is a little light in attack. I really don't see the point in Mihajlovic considering he has Gattuso as a destroyer and screening the defence. 4-4-2 diamond with McManaman and Seedorf providing width is much better option.

In this set up he relies solely on Zamorano with Scholl supporting. Seedorf in Real was more of a LM or tucked in with great engine unlike his Milan days where he was more central.

Seedorf and McManaman tucked in providing width on each flank is the more viable option for me.

Mazhar has 3 attackers - Rufer as inside forward on the left, Donadoni as right winger and Sheva on top. Don't think there is a need for 5 defenders(including 3 CB's) and Gattuso as DM.
In this set up I think Mazhar has more attacking options and effectively he'd win the game. If there are 2 forwards in Marty's side IMO it will look whole lot different.
Was thinking that Mazhar would set up with Luis Enrique attacking through the middle as well which is why I went for the three CB's. As it is, Emerson and Cocu offer very little going forward so does appear a little over the top. Have Butragueno on the bench so can provide much more up front with then three very attacking players behind the two of them in Scholl, Macca and Seedorf.
 
Was thinking that Mazhar would set up with Luis Enrique attacking through the middle as well which is why I went for the three CB's. As it is, Emerson and Cocu offer very little going forward so does appear a little over the top. Have Butragueno on the bench so can provide much more up front with then three very attacking players behind the two of them in Scholl, Macca and Seedorf.

I think that would be a whole lot better. Even with Enrique up front you still have Gattuso as DM who will protect the back four. Babel and Benarrivo are also better defensively than offensively so it's better McManaman and Seedorf to provide the width.

With this formation I think Mazhar's team will have better balance through the lines and you'll have an extra man in defence while short up front.
 
Mazhar/Boycott have a couple of outstanding players no doubt about it (namely Kahn, Aldair, Donadoni and Shevchenko). Apart from that they have a couple of weak links in my view. Rufer up front won't offer too much threat to a hard working Babbel and Berthold, whilst Pique is prone to errors and gets caught out of position quite frequently. His ability (or lack of at the very top level) is masked by the fact that he plays for Barca. Put him in a competitive league or a team where he has to defend and he would struggle. Just look at the two legs against Bayern a couple of years ago. He was run ragged for two games.

In midfield I see very little creativity from Cocu and Emerson. There distribution was good without being great and in an out and out bun fight in the middle they would lose out to the more physical Gattuso.
 
Will have to look into mazhar's BL players before making a decision. His team looks good so far though
 
I don't like the set-up of Marty's team but voted for them anyway.
Have changed my tactics and sent through to Viva. He just needs to update the main thread. In the meantime, here it is. Given that my opponents only really have three attacking players I can go for a 4-4-2 diamond formation which will give much more balance to my team. Benarrivo and Babbel will both be able to get forward safe that Gattuso will help to cover the back line.

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Have changed my tactics and sent through to Viva. He just needs to update the main thread. In the meantime, here it is. Given that my opponents only really have three attacking players I can go for a 4-4-2 diamond formation which will give much more balance to my team. Benarrivo and Babbel will both be able to get forward safe that Gattuso will help to cover the back line.

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Yeah that's much better and will equal the game. You have the protection with Gattuso covering and also the best CB in the game will make it a solid formation.
 
I'm at work so I cannot comment that much, but what I can say is that our team is perfectly equipped to take control of the match.

All of Cocu, Emerson, and Bein are excellent on the ball, so they can handle the pressure from the likes of Seedorf and Gattuso, who don't offer much defensively other than physicality and aggression. Without a holding midfielder who sits and covers up the gaps (AC Milan needed Ambrosini to really solidify their midfield), Marty's midfield is porous enough for us to take control and worry their defence. Berthold and Babbel have a bad record against Rufer (will post stats when I get home), and Sheva's scored against all sorts of teams and defenders, so even Costacurta/Mihajlovic should not stop Sheva from scoring particularly with Bein and Donadoni creating chances for them.

EDIT: Mihajlovic out makes them even more open, allowing us greater control of the game and making us more able to score goals.
 
has Gattuso ever actually played as DM? From what i remember and how i see him, he was always a RCM who was given the freedom to run anywhere and just win the ball back. Really dont think he is tactically astute enough or intelligent enough to play DM role and even if i was wrong im sure you wont get the best of him that way.

As for the other team, dont know much about the Bein and Rufer so will try to find more before i vote but surely there is a place for Luis Enrique in this team!?
 
Again, @Boycott and I can't be too involved whilst we are at work, but once I get home, I'll get more involved.
 
has Gattuso ever actually played as DM? From what i remember and how i see him, he was always a RCM who was given the freedom to run anywhere and just win the ball back. Really dont think he is tactically astute enough or intelligent enough to play DM role and even if i was wrong im sure you wont get the best of him that way.

As for the other team, dont know much about the Bein and Rufer so will try to find more before i vote but surely there is a place for Luis Enrique in this team!?

mazhar's team has to have 3 BuLi players on the field and the 3 they have are 2 midfielders and a forward in Rufer. The only player they can sub is Donadoni in this formation which I don't think will be that much of an upgrade. IMO it was a bit shot in the foot as Enrique instead of Rufer in that inside forward position will make a whole lot of a difference.

Will wait before mazhar's and boycott's input before voting.
 
I disagree that our team lacks creativity. Cocu is someone who has the technical and athleticism qualities to shine as a deep lying playmaker but we can transition into a traditional 4-2-3-1 allowing Uwe Bein to thrive. A classical playmaker he can provide the killer pass. Marty's team is well set out but lacks pace IMO. Bein with the protection of the two behind can make full effect of the front three who carry great threat.

Gattuso covers plenty of ground but I don't think a physical contest will happen. We have comfortable ball players all over to play our way out. Seedorf, Macca and Scholl are technically very good too but our defenders are excellent readers and the issue of pace again won't really be a threat. Zamorano's a bit static so again we have the ability to absorb threats.
 
I disagree that our team lacks creativity. Cocu is someone who has the technical and athleticism qualities to shine as a deep lying playmaker but we can transition into a traditional 4-2-3-1 allowing Uwe Bein to thrive. A classical playmaker he can provide the killer pass. Marty's team is well set out but lacks pace IMO. Bein with the protection of the two behind can make full effect of the front three who carry great threat.

Gattuso covers plenty of ground but I don't think a physical contest will happen. We have comfortable ball players all over to play our way out. Seedorf, Macca and Scholl are technically very good too but our defenders are excellent readers and the issue of pace again won't really be a threat. Zamorano's a bit static so again we have the ability to absorb threats.
I think a more detailed information on Rufer and Bein will be welcomed as they are the two rather not that well known players in your set up. Also Rufer I think was a striker or center forward at least rather than inside left forward(wasn't he right footed?).

On Bein I know rather little besides playing in 90 WC and what I've watched as highlights from there.
 
I'm at work so I cannot comment that much, but what I can say is that our team is perfectly equipped to take control of the match.

All of Cocu, Emerson, and Bein are excellent on the ball, so they can handle the pressure from the likes of Seedorf and Gattuso, who don't offer much defensively other than physicality and aggression. Without a holding midfielder who sits and covers up the gaps (AC Milan needed Ambrosini to really solidify their midfield), Marty's midfield is porous enough for us to take control and worry their defence. Berthold and Babbel have a bad record against Rufer (will post stats when I get home), and Sheva's scored against all sorts of teams and defenders, so even Costacurta/Mihajlovic should not stop Sheva from scoring particularly with Bein and Donadoni creating chances for them.

EDIT: Mihajlovic out makes them even more open, allowing us greater control of the game and making us more able to score goals.
Seedorf, McManaman and in particular Scholl were all excellent on the ball as well and don't see anything to suggest that Cocu/Emerson and Bein were any better.

To say that Gattuso doesn't offer anything defensively is nonsense. He was incredible at it! I struggle to see the porous midfield that you're talking about. Seedorf was excellent defensively as well as in attack and McManaman's work-rate at Madrid was exemplary.

Would be interesting in seeing these comprehensive stats you have on Rufer...
 
I think a more detailed information on Rufer and Bein will be welcomed as they are the two rather not that well known players in your set up. Also Rufer I think was a striker or center forward at least rather than inside left forward(wasn't he right footed?).

On Bein I know rather little besides playing in 90 WC and what I've watched as highlights from there.

I'll do that when I finish work in n hour or so. After that I can get more involved.

Just briefly, we emphasise that our formation is just a basis and it's the system/style that counts. Bein was a midfield playmaker in his day but his characteristics are the make up of a modern 10. So we can transition to 4-2-3-1 for instance. Rufer was rapid and won't necessarily hold wide as Serginho covers that but making runs in from wide was something he did well (as did Sheva). Donadoni provides out and out width on the right.
 
Don't really like Cocu or Gattuso in their roles for either team. They are not destroyers a la Makelele, but do offer a lot more box to box. Though Gattuso's role is a bit better as he doesn't have to face an AM. Both teams are quite hardworking, but mazahar's team lacks a bit of creativity. Really rate Seeedorf and McManaman and they will provide the extra spark here. Sheva is the best striker with Butragueno coming next, but Marty has the clear advantage in CB's. Have given the edge to Marty for now...