La Liga 2024/25: El Clásico

Saying he's not a ref when he was the vice head of Spain's referees committee at the time is purposefully being pedantic. Even Tebas has said that those payments by Barca to a high ranking refereeing official should not have happened because they are inappropriate and unethical.

Who will determine if was supposed to happen is a judge, not Tebas who is the president of la Liga, who confessed that is a real madrid supporter and Real Madrid paid him when he was a teacher (while president of La Liga) at the Real Madrid University and who had to retrieve a document that he sent to the jusge that was false information on the Negreria case

So yeah. Lets wait
 
Can you imagine the pressure on the referee tomorrow? It's appalling behaviour all this
I hope Barca trounce them 7-0 with offside goals and 2 very harsh red cards. Embarassing club...
 
This is a good example of why Perez must go. I have never liked him and always found myself in this boat with a minority our fans with whom we shared the same views about him. Never liked how he came with such smug smirk and savior complex after running away like a coward on his first stint. I admit, he did very well on the first half of this second stint. We brought in good players who became a good foundation for the club’s success. But in the process he has pretty much kidnapped the club and slaughtered any chance to take the throne off of him, and with the help of the media he controls, installed among our fans this ridiculous notion that everything will be doom and gloom if he leaves. Thus, leaving a lethargic fanbase that will rather stay quiet or go along with all his whims.

Now on his deliberately myopic view, he fancies himself in this war against Tebas and the FA, but hides behind Real Madrid TV as an instrument of intimidation. Yet, foolishly and disgustingly let himself entice by Laporta and his abhorrent corrupted club. Oh the irony, of complaining about referees only to throw yourself in the arms of the club who has payed millions to referees for decades. Openly claim and brag during an assembly with no shame in front of socios that Madrid and Barca must support each other. C'mon, how can you say that after everything we know about Barca? I detest the idea that the president of my club is shamesly in bed with the corruption, even pulling some strings behind the scenes. Because, at this point, I have little doubt that's been happening. But this farce has turned the image of the club as massive hypocrites and a laughing stock.
The president has won 37 titles, including basketball. 7 Champions Leagues.
Meanwhile, the Negreira scandal and the referee affair are fading away without any sanctions.
Supposedly, Madrid controls the media, yet Fabrizio Romano, a highly recognized figure, has gone three years without saying a single word about Negreira.
The man in charge of VAR was seen crying with another official and making veiled threats. Meanwhile, here we are in 2025 and we still can't hear live explanations for their decisions.
They are not calling for resignations, just a change in the appointment of a guy who lost his head in an interview.
The Federation was making private deals with Piqué and we all know Tebas.
Once the president is gone, plenty of groups with the backing to run will appear, including small-time mafiosos like Calderón.
Maybe they didn't even show up, precisely because he has won 7 Champions Leagues.
 
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The president has won 37 titles, including basketball. 7 Champions Leagues.
Meanwhile, the Negreira scandal and the referee affair are fading away without any sanctions.
Supposedly, Madrid controls the media, yet Fabrizio Romano, a highly recognized figure, has gone three years without saying a single word about Negreira.
The man in charge of VAR was seen crying with another official and making veiled threats. Meanwhile, here we are in 2025 and we still can't hear live explanations for their decisions.
They are not calling for resignations, just a change in the appointment of a guy who lost his head in an interview.
The Federation was making private deals with Piqué and we all know Tebas.
Once the president is gone, plenty of groups with the backing to run will appear, including small-time mafiosos like Calderón.
Maybe they didn't even show up, precisely because he has won 7 Champions Leagues.
And why did he lose his head in an interview? It happened just out of the blue, I guess.
 
it's like that South Park episode with the giant douche and the turd sandwich. Can't win.
Exactly. Just classic bullying tactics from these clubs while portraying themselves as the victims.

Especially can't stand Madrid unless they're stopping Liverpool from winning the CL. Guess Liverpool fans say the same about Barca and us!
 
Yet, foolishly and disgustingly let himself entice by Laporta and his abhorrent corrupted club. Oh the irony, of complaining about referees only to throw yourself in the arms of the club who has payed millions to referees for decades. Openly claim and brag during an assembly with no shame in front of socios that Madrid and Barca must support each other. C'mon, how can you say that after everything we know about Barca?
It is really baffling and embarrassing to go to war with seemingly everyone except your hated rivals.
 
Real Madrid really are massive fecking babies.

They'll probably stop the game and bring their ball home if someone annoys them.
 
Imagine if these guys got the super league and Perez was in charge. They engrave their crest on the trophy before a ball was kicked and would just hire their ex players as ref. They're a joke :lol:
 
Real Madrid embarrassing themselves again. As someone here stated, its akin to a petulant loser grabbing the game ball and running home because he's angry with a refereeing decision.
 
That is lie. No referee was paid. So keep going. Embarrassing of a club tampering. What is true is that for 7 decades al the referee presodenrs were real madrid payinf supporters even one said publically that barcelona would not win a league while he would be the president. He was for 24 years

He is not a ref. Therefore a lie

I could agree to terms with the rest. That madrid and barça cry about the refs is embarrassing. But madrid is pushing it a notch with the theatrics lately

Either you really don`t understand how to fix games ( buy refs ), or you are offering top tier gaslighting.

Anyway, the point being is:

1. Refs / CTA sucks.
2. Only ones who should complain are the small clubs who get rekt on regular basis.
3. Perez should disband RMtv because it is doing massive favors to Barca and sanitizing their image to perfection.

As for the game. I don`t see how Barca can lose this game. Actually, its likely for new manita to happen. Which will sting, but if lessons can be learned from it...well...

p.s.: rumors circulating Lucas and Mendy as fullbacks. Yep, time to put massive handicap on Barca.
 
The president has won 37 titles, including basketball. 7 Champions Leagues.
Meanwhile, the Negreira scandal and the referee affair are fading away without any sanctions.
Supposedly, Madrid controls the media, yet Fabrizio Romano, a highly recognized figure, has gone three years without saying a single word about Negreira.
The man in charge of VAR was seen crying with another official and making veiled threats. Meanwhile, here we are in 2025 and we still can't hear live explanations for their decisions.
They are not calling for resignations, just a change in the appointment of a guy who lost his head in an interview.
The Federation was making private deals with Piqué and we all know Tebas.
Once the president is gone, plenty of groups with the backing to run will appear, including small-time mafiosos like Calderón.
Maybe they didn't even show up, precisely because he has won 7 Champions Leagues.
Like I said, in his myopic view he fancies himself as the hero in this story fighting against injustices. Yet, does it in a half assed and coward way. Never upfront about it, never the first in line, always behind a weak comunicado or RMTV. His posture reeks and looks that of someone who isn’t truly commited. We already know a lot of journos are on/have been on the payroll for Barca, yet Perez is in cahoots with that club.

He wants to fight corruption, yet, surrounds himself with shady and nefarious powerful people, and is all giddy with his best friend Laporta. Always lending him a hand. Wants to take down corruption but not the kind that benefits him. On top of it, he’s been overlooking the needs of the team and other sport sections these few seasons because he’s been busy throwing hissy fist at everyone.

No, I am strongly against any of those people near the club. Just like I’m against the president of my club to be in bed with Barcelona and all it’s corruption. To me his legacy for that alone is already tainted. It is also foolish to suggest the club isn't kidnapped by him. Going by that assembly who knows to whom he plans to hand the club over.
 
Either you really don`t understand how to fix games ( buy refs ), or you are offering top tier gaslighting.

Anyway, the point being is:

1. Refs / CTA sucks.
2. Only ones who should complain are the small clubs who get rekt on regular basis.
3. Perez should disband RMtv because it is doing massive favors to Barca and sanitizing their image to perfection.

As for the game. I don`t see how Barca can lose this game. Actually, its likely for new manita to happen. Which will sting, but if lessons can be learned from it...well...

p.s.: rumors circulating Lucas and Mendy as fullbacks. Yep, time to put massive handicap on Barca.

Tell me exactly how barcelkna fixed ghe games. Because this is what he had to be proven. The negreira case is a disgrace from the start. Is sheer stupidity at its best abd full corruption at its worse. That is what it needs to be proven

Now, i wont trust anything that comes out frlm pandering madridista press or president of la liga Tebas which is a madridista, paid officially by real madrid and Louzan president of RFEF and confessed madridista and admire of perez, his words. Both with more power than negreira.

Talking about corrupting power with madrid history has some big balls

On your 3 points i agree on the later 2. The first is a matter than only was brought up now with madrid TV. COuld be true or not. I dont know bc i dont know how it works. Madridistas now only repeats like a parrot what madridista press says on the matter without having a fecking clue

On the match, barcelona is net superior for a variety of reasons but mostly that there is an idea on how to play and they did the whole season unlike madrid which has excellent individualities. Now in a final everything can happen and the trophy is important enough. With the environmemt that all this whining has caused, it will come to all the drama of mourinho's time with wimpy fights so forget about manitas.

Madrid has the most optimal outcome aa they could get as an inferior team. Tampered with the game, leveling to a short opportunities game and if they lose is because the reffs
 
Tell me exactly how barcelkna fixed ghe games. Because this is what he had to be proven. The negreira case is a disgrace from the start. Is sheer stupidity at its best abd full corruption at its worse. That is what it needs to be proven

Now, i wont trust anything that comes out frlm pandering madridista press or president of la liga Tebas which is a madridista, paid officially by real madrid and Louzan president of RFEF and confessed madridista and admire of perez, his words. Both with more power than negreira.

Talking about corrupting power with madrid history has some big balls

On your 3 points i agree on the later 2. The first is a matter than only was brought up now with madrid TV. COuld be true or not. I dont know bc i dont know how it works. Madridistas now only repeats like a parrot what madridista press says on the matter without having a fecking clue

On the match, barcelona is net superior for a variety of reasons but mostly that there is an idea on how to play and they did the whole season unlike madrid which has excellent individualities. Now in a final everything can happen and the trophy is important enough. With the environmemt that all this whining has caused, it will come to all the drama of mourinho's time with wimpy fights so forget about manitas.

Madrid has the most optimal outcome aa they could get as an inferior team. Tampered with the game, leveling to a short opportunities game and if they lose is because the reffs

I find it fascinating, that your counter argument to investing millions in CTA dude for "equal treatment ( euphemism ) or writing elementary school reports about refs, is "Tebas and other dude are Perez fanboys". But what is even better, despite this sheer influence by Perez, Barca is the most successful club domestically for entirety of his RM presidency. Fascinating, really. In reality, having Negreiera on your payroll is absolutely unethical and wrecks integrity of competition. Also, the sheer amount of financial windowdressing which continues to this day, will be studied for years to come. Not saying that RM is any better. You aint any better than Perez. Get it?

Nothing can happen in the final besides Barca lifting that trophy. The only question i have is either this team can avoid pummeling and go out in style. Which i doubt considering this squad plays like absolute dog-shit.
 
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He wants to fight corruption, yet, surrounds himself with shady and nefarious powerful people, and is all giddy with his best friend Laporta. Always lending him a hand. Wants to take down corruption but not the kind that benefits him. On top of it, he’s been overlooking the needs of the team and other sport sections these few seasons because he’s been busy throwing hissy fist at everyone.

Yup, lately he's been overlooking the balance of the squad and spent too much time in this pointless wars. I mean there's some stuff that can't be ignored but the focus should always be the team instead of putting his image first.
 
Relaño pointed out at how referees were punished for getting it wrong against Barcelona and not punished for getting it wrong against Madrid years ago and a great part of the media -which one poster claims is controlled by Florentino- called him a conspiracy theorist.

Now, after Negreira's scandal, we know he was right and colleagues and other football people even apologized to him admitting the case was way more serious than he claimed.

It is because of this case that RMTV videos have now more repercussions. I remember before that, not even Real Madrid fans watched the videos themselves, but since Negreira all the media focus has shifted to suspicions about the referees. It doesn't help, for this particular game, that De Burgos Bengoetxea is perceived as a particularly bad referee in Madrid's experience.

However, at times I wonder if the club's energy is being been spent wisely of late and this communication strategy is the right one. I think we will only know in the very long term.

Regarding the game, Barcelona are strong favorites. Madrid are like that student who has been lazy the whole year and wants to pass the exam studying like crazy the last few days. Miracles happen, but the result seems almost a foregone conclusion
 
Team has to find a level it really hasn't all season, not really feeling it.

Alternatively, get absurdly lucky, i suppose.
 
Real Madrid has really become the most unlikeable club in world football in recent years...
Hope they lose this...
 
Even if absolutely nothing happens in the game, the refwatch will be fantastic.
 
Even if absolutely nothing happens in the game, the refwatch will be fantastic.
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Got applause from the fans who are already there when he walked around the pitch pre-game.
 
They really are pathetic. Using AI art instead of an actual picture of their player ffs

The one they should thank Florentino for still being their player btw!

It's not AI, it's a player from efootball game, which is the sponsor. But I agree. It looks horrible.
 
Seeing Barca and Real fans complaining about refs is like seeing France and Britain in 1900 complaining about colonies..
 
My faithful river has run dry, if anyone can help me out it would be greatly appreciated.
 
As a neutral i hope for a Barca win with a few harsh decisions against Real. Give me maximum drama please.
 
No one expects Madrid to win. I think they just might and no Mbappe might actually help them.
 
feck sake! Why can't our defenders ever stay fit?
 
First real chance of the game, wasted chance to do some cool refereeing by awarding a pen
 
Vazquez and Rudiger dodging yellow cards like Neo in Matrix
 
Now would be a good time for the ref to show his impartiality by sending a couple of theirs off and awarding us 3 goals