A crazy breed indeed, truly kings among men.
Trevor Benjamin
Trevor Benjamin
Journeyman strikers
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Crazy how many times he got loaned out multiple times in a year throughout his career. He must have lived out of a caravan.
I thought Steve Claridge played for more league teams.
I thought this thread was gonna be about the rise of Glenn Murray. Journeyman doesn't necessarily mean someone has played for a lot of clubs.
The thing I don't get is look at his scoring record, it's shite. Why did so many teams buy him?
Journeyman strikers always have crap records and yet get bought so often, never makes any sense to me.
Journeyman strikers always have crap records and yet get bought so often, never makes any sense to me.
He has 8 goals in 10 games for Jarrow Roofing Boldon Community Association F.C.. What more do you expect? 5 goals in 1 match for Glossop North End A.F.C. 1 (5) which is outstanding and exactly the same as Ronaldo last weekend. Some people...
Actually you're dead right. Journeyman means skillful enough to make it but never quite getting there due to injury or just missing out. Benjamin and Claridge both don't quite hit these heights. Maybe Dean Ashton is one. Very promising career cut down by injury.
No Journeyman definitely means he played for a load of clubs.
Doesn't make sense under the definition you've given there. There's no journey part.
Doesn't make sense under the definition you've given there. There's no journey part.
As I understand it, journeyman refers to a very average player who has literally had to journey around football clubs in order to stay in prolonged employment.
Sounds more like phil neville.
journeyman
ˈdʒəːnɪmən/
noun
noun: journeyman; plural noun: journeymen
- 1.
a worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding.
"a solid journeyman professional" - 2.
historical
a trained worker who is employed by someone else.
"a journeyman carpenter"
Isn't the term journeyman from boxing. Like a shit boxer who needs to travel to different boxing clubs for fights. But if you are good people come to you instead? This might all be made up though I'm not sure.
Just redefine the term to "Well-travelled Journeyman"
Sorry, but it doesn't. It has nothing to do with the amount of clubs played for.
OK, where's that from? Someone's obviously seen fit to modernise the definition based on how many people get it wrong. Like 'literally'.
Literally literally still means literally. But yeah meanings of words evolve...tradegy literally means 'a goat's song' but of course the modern meaning is completely different. And I found that on Wiki. I think journeyman used to mean an apprentice or trained worker or something.
In boxing and mixed martial arts, a journeyman is a fighter who has adequate skill but is not of the caliber of a contender or gatekeeper. Outside of combat sports, a "journeyman" is a trader or crafter who has completed an apprenticeship, but is not at the level of a master craftsman. Hence, when applied to them, a "journeyman" implies a fighter who is no longer a novice, and has the sufficient degree of boxing skill that may be expected from a professional, but who does not have the mastery possessed by the contenders.
Journeymen will often serve as opponents for young up and coming prospects and will often step in at late notice should a fight fall through. Journeymen are said to have little or no expectation of winning fights against contenders or gatekeepers, but this does not preclude them from having a winning record against less-skilled fighters.[1][2]
Journeymen will often serve as opponents for young up and coming prospects and will often step in at late notice should a fight fall through. Journeymen are said to have little or no expectation of winning fights against contenders or gatekeepers, but this does not preclude them from having a winning record against less-skilled fighters.[1][2]
But it became so common to use literally to mean not literally, as in 'I'm literally over the moon', that the definition of literally was changed to mean both literally, and to literally mean, not literally.
So what I'm trying to say is, Marcus Bent played for a lot of clubs didn't he.
Back in the day, didn't a lot of journeyman craftsmen travel a lot to train under different masters, or to generally gain experience?
That'd likely be where they get the name for travelling players.
That'd likely be where they get the name for travelling players.
Ade Akinbiyi
The OED...
One who, having served his apprenticeship to a handicraft or trade, is qualified to work at it for days' wages; a mechanic who has served his apprenticeship or learned a trade or handicraft, and works at it not on his own account but as the servant or employee of another; a qualified mechanic or artisan who works for another. Distinguished on one side from apprentice, on the other from master.
One who, having served his apprenticeship to a handicraft or trade, is qualified to work at it for days' wages; a mechanic who has served his apprenticeship or learned a trade or handicraft, and works at it not on his own account but as the servant or employee of another; a qualified mechanic or artisan who works for another. Distinguished on one side from apprentice, on the other from master.
Can we get a definition for "striker"?
d. In indecent sense. Hence, a fornicator.
1593 Passionate Morrice in Tell-Trothes New-yeares Gift (1876) 80 He cannot see a wench out-start the bounds of modestie, but straight he hollowes the sight of a striker, thinking it vnpossible that if shee want maidenly behauiour, shee can haue womanly honestie.
1596 T. Nashe Haue with you to Saffron-Walden sig. T, In some Countreys no woman is so honorable as she that hath had to doo with most men, and can giue the lusteest striker oddes by 25. times in one night.
c1635 H. Glapthorne Lady Mother (1959) iv. i. 71 These are Immodest deuills that make modest ladyes become strickers.
1665 M. Nedham Medela Medicinæ 64 Which should be sad News to all the Strikers of both Sexes.
1593 Passionate Morrice in Tell-Trothes New-yeares Gift (1876) 80 He cannot see a wench out-start the bounds of modestie, but straight he hollowes the sight of a striker, thinking it vnpossible that if shee want maidenly behauiour, shee can haue womanly honestie.
1596 T. Nashe Haue with you to Saffron-Walden sig. T, In some Countreys no woman is so honorable as she that hath had to doo with most men, and can giue the lusteest striker oddes by 25. times in one night.
c1635 H. Glapthorne Lady Mother (1959) iv. i. 71 These are Immodest deuills that make modest ladyes become strickers.
1665 M. Nedham Medela Medicinæ 64 Which should be sad News to all the Strikers of both Sexes.
Some managers like a style of play that involves a journeyman striker dropping deep, bringing others into the game & so on. So his job isn't scoring, ''much more to his game than that'' isn't there? Have longer careers than your out & out scorer because slowing down doesn't really matter
I nominate Peter Crouch for consideration
Mick Harford
Yakubu
it's your lower division guys really though, circulating 8 or 9 clubs and then rejoining who they started with
I nominate Peter Crouch for consideration
Mick Harford
Yakubu
it's your lower division guys really though, circulating 8 or 9 clubs and then rejoining who they started with
Leo Fortune-West, he was an ace lower league signing on this old fifa game I had.
Dean Windass must be up there.
Marlon King?
Adebayo Akinfenwa?
Bojan Djordic (not a striker though)
Fabien Brandy is well on the way
Paul Pescisolido?
Adebayo Akinfenwa?
Bojan Djordic (not a striker though)
Fabien Brandy is well on the way
Paul Pescisolido?
Delroy Facey
Jermain Beckford?
Jermain Beckford?
If you want to see the journeyman of all journeymen strikers then wiki Jefferson Louis.
It's an incredible list of clubs.
It's an incredible list of clubs.
After an impressive start at Everton...Danny Cadamartari.
Surely these people are nomadic strikers?
I've seen him play a fair bit and he's actually not that bad a player. Bit of a battering ram but knows where the goal is. I've never completely understood why he has flitted around like he has but there have been numerous off field issues that have definitely blighted his career. His football map though is quite interesting, it's not like he's a northerner or southerner who has plied his trade exclusively in that neck of the woods. He's been out west with Newport County, right over to the east with Lowestoft, down south with Eastbourne, right up to the North East with Darlington, North West with Wrexham and god knows how many places in the middle !
Not strikers but ex-United youth keepers Mike Pollitt and Paul Rachubka both had 15 different clubs…even signing for the same club more than once.