Joe (magic feet) Cole

ste_grassham

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How good would it be with the talented kid in our team, saf has lalways liked him! or so harry redknapp says, i think he would fit on the left so ryan could push in up front...
 
Originally posted by ste_grassham:
<strong>How good would it be with the talented kid in our team, saf has lalways liked him! or so harry redknapp says, i think he would fit on the left so ryan could push in up front...</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's not as effective when playing on the wing. He needs to be in the centre
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Has anyone seen Cole actually make a real tangible contribution on even a semi regular basis?

The kid has talent without question, but thus far in his career he has been pure eye candy. Productivity wins matches. When/if he adds that to his game then he'd be a worthy consideration, right now he is just a poor mans Denilson.
 
this cole is difference from the last cole we have(Andy Cole).
but he have a big future for england!
 
I'd rather have Carrick. I reckon SAF could mould him into a successor for Keano.
 
Carrick? the floppy haired cockney fop? :confused: for keano? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
I saw him vs Italy U21 against the likes of Paolo Cannavaro and he was AAAWWEEEESSOOOMMEEE!!! You think Veron's good performances were special? Not on a par with what this guy can do.

That was a few years ago and instantly I tipped him to be the next Zidane. Maybe abit wrong, but he is gonna be one of the biggest stars in world football IMO. Good attitude too.

He is mostly potential right now. But he will unleash it eventually in next year or so. I hope we get him before he establishes himself as truly world class like Rio and Duff have done.
 
i kind of agree - at PL level he is, as splendidly put here, pure eye candy. but he has the talent to do anything. though i dispute the comment made on another thread here - "25mil? cole could do that at half the price" joe cole is gonna cost someone a feck of a lot of money when he leaves the BellEnders. i'll wager more that half of 25 mil. so where will he go in england realisticly? or will he stay at West Ham?
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Originally posted by Roko:
<strong>I'd rather have Carrick. I reckon SAF could mould him into a successor for Keano.</strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Butt is twice the player Carrick will ever be.
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Joe Cole is the one we should always monitor his progress. He represents what we lack in the current team: flair and unpredictable. West Ham won't be able to keep this kind of talent forever, so it's just a matter of time when will he leave, and when he leaves we must take the chance this time. I don't want us to repeat the saga of Rio Ferdinand (If we directly got Rio from WH, we would have saved over 10m).
 
Overrated to say the least. One may claim he is amazingly unpredictable, but i find him to be predictably useless far too often. He isn't the best young player in England, let alone Europe.
 
If you don't get goals from your midfielders your out of luck. As far as i know, Joe Cole is not a scorer. I'll stick with Scholes, thank you. But, what about Dyer?
 
Originally posted by Forza Viola:
<strong>Has anyone seen Cole actually make a real tangible contribution on even a semi regular basis?

The kid has talent without question, but thus far in his career he has been pure eye candy. Productivity wins matches. When/if he adds that to his game then he'd be a worthy consideration, right now he is just a poor mans Denilson.</strong><hr></blockquote>

how about his dribble into the box for the penalty at arsenal? thats the kind of attacking contibution we could use at united. No one at united has dribbled passed a man in a long time, we are looking incredibly flat in that area.

I would happly pay 20 mill for him today.

Unfortunately i have heard he is a west ham fan and has vowed never to leave the club!
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Originally posted by zippy:
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how about his dribble into the box for the penalty at arsenal? thats the kind of attacking contibution we could use at united. No one at united has dribbled passed a man in a long time, we are looking incredibly flat in that area.

I would happly pay 20 mill for him today.

Unfortunately i have heard he is a west ham fan and has vowed never to leave the club!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Didn't Rio say he was happy at West Ham just before he signed for Leeds.
West Ham are never going to qualify for Europe unless they win the Worthless Cup. Cole's got ambition, he wants to play at the top level and it won't be long before a big club makes an approach for him. Unfortunately I think you're going to be looking at £20million+ for him.
If we could get Ronaldinhio for less than £20million we should buy him. He would give us more options. An attacking midfielder who is comfortable playing upfront and he is probably a better goal scorer than Joe.
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Originally posted by Sharkey:
<strong>Carrick? the floppy haired cockney fop? :confused: for keano? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Carrick is a geordie btw!
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Originally posted by zippy:
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how about his dribble into the box for the penalty at arsenal? thats the kind of attacking contibution we could use at united. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Not exactly a regular occurence though is it? On that basis Phil Neville could do the same job based on his excellent run against Wrexham in the FA Cup...

The day he starts producing week in week out then I'd snap him up. If he was dirt cheap I'd snap him up on the chance that he would develop. Point is he will already cost a bomb so lets see him perform first.
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What shite are you guys talking about, Joe Cole for Man Utd which is absolute bullshit, and some major league asshole suggesting M Carrick as a successor to Keane- what bollocks. If we have to resort to buying players who are not even regular internationals and (who would cost a fortune) from a small time cockney show of shite then we are really in trouble. I am still trying to come to terms with the fact that someone even had the nerve to suggest Carrick for United.
 
Originally posted by Forza Viola:
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Not exactly a regular occurence though is it? On that basis Phil Neville could do the same job based on his excellent run against Wrexham in the FA Cup...

The day he starts producing week in week out then I'd snap him up. If he was dirt cheap I'd snap him up on the chance that he would develop. Point is he will already cost a bomb so lets see him perform first.</strong><hr></blockquote>

My belief is that Joe Cole has what it takes to do the business week in week out but first needs to be brought along at a bigger club. I remember how roy keane was brought along at united playing as a defender first. but more than that, i think joe would fit into our team easily, west ham are a decent passing team who recently played arsenal off the park for about 70 minutes. the point is if we buy him now at 20m we could easily get 7-10 years out of him - thats what i call value for money.

This may sound crazy but i would do a straight swap with WHU; veron for cole.....?
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Originally posted by zippy:
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I remember how roy keane was brought along at united playing as a defender first. but more than that, i think joe would fit into our team easily, west ham are a decent passing team who recently played arsenal off the park for about 70 minutes. the point is if we buy him now at 20m we could easily get 7-10 years out of him - thats what i call value for money.
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Roy Keane as a defender at United? Didn't happen mate. The double season saw the famous four virtually ever present. Sure you are not thinking of Ince who spent much of his first year at right back?

Regarding your Cole point: that is exactly what everyone was saying about Veron.

United have never done well with creative central midfielders, be it Veron, Muhren or Wilkins. They always end up stuck out on the flank being half as effective as a decent winger... that is what we need, not another nancy boy.
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Originally posted by Forza Viola:
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Roy Keane as a defender at United? Didn't happen mate. The double season saw the famous four virtually ever present. Sure you are not thinking of Ince who spent much of his first year at right back?

Regarding your Cole point: that is exactly what everyone was saying about Veron.

United have never done well with creative central midfielders, be it Veron, Muhren or Wilkins. They always end up stuck out on the flank being half as effective as a decent winger... that is what we need, not another nancy boy.</strong><hr></blockquote>

unless i am really losing my marbles i am sure i saw keane playing in a variety of positions early on in his days with united, this included right back, center back, right wing and even as a forward once.

I do agree though that a speedy right winger would be very usefull to us - think its time we gave beckham his chance to pay in the middle so we can see what he can do...
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Originally posted by zippy:
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unless i am really losing my marbles i am sure i saw keane playing in a variety of positions early on in his days with united, this included right back, center back, right wing and even as a forward once.

I do agree though that a speedy right winger would be very usefull to us - think its time we gave beckham his chance to pay in the middle so we can see what he can do...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I am also sure that I saw Roy Keane played as RB and forward in his early days in United.
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Originally posted by zippy:
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unless i am really losing my marbles i am sure i saw keane playing in a variety of positions early on in his days with united, this included right back, center back, right wing and even as a forward once.

I do agree though that a speedy right winger would be very usefull to us - think its time we gave beckham his chance to pay in the middle so we can see what he can do...</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree - Beckham-Keane, or even Butt-Beckham is the way to go in the middle. And please replace Giggs while you're at it.
Mmmm... anyone else looking at Duff and Dyer here?
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Originally posted by mikhail:
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I agree - Beckham-Keane, or even Butt-Beckham is the way to go in the middle. And please replace Giggs while you're at it.
Mmmm... anyone else looking at Duff and Dyer here?</strong><hr></blockquote>

i would never dream of selling giggs, he is a club legend and it still takes two players to mark him out of games, the reason they can afford to double up on him is because there is no other threat in his mould on the field.
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