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Pitying all you northerners doomed to a life of cu
I genuinely believe the following to be true

A) Man Utds squad this season,even after the purchase of Kagawa, and assuming you fail to get RVP is the weakest for some years. Evidence of that frailty was seen last year in what was generally regarded as a lower quality premiership not only by finishing second and some lack lustre displays but more importantly by failing to qualify out of a particularly weak CL group. Your midfield, in particular, lacks quality and I don't see ageing stars (Giggs and Scholes) being the solution. In fact, I think time will finally catch up with them. It's not RVP you need but another quality midfielder.

B) Arsenal have strengthened significantly and I confidently predict that Cazorla will be the purchase of the season.If we keep RVP, I expect us to be a greater threat to City than you lot. That is why I argue if trophies are the prime goal of RVP, he's better of staying than going to Utd. If he does go, it's
because of the money rumoured at an extra £70k per week and at 29 who can blame him in what is his final big money contract?

C) There is and has been cool relations at Board level between Man Utd and Arsenal. If RVP is to sign this summer for Utd, then they will have to pay through the nose. I'd guess £20m would do it for Juventus but nothing less than £25 will do it for Utd. Arsenal are now in a strong financial position and can afford to reject Utds rumoured offer of £15m. That is why I think we will string you along and force RVP to play out the last year of his contract. Frankly, that's what most fans want anyway. I also think Wenger is adamant
he won't sell to Fergie.

D) Unlike the Nasri situation last year, Arsenal are in a much stronger position with RVP. He has been injury prone, he is 29 and when he realises that Arsenal are not going to sell him, he either has to risk still being an attractive proposition next year when he's 30, or do a KP like turnaround, committing his future to Arsenal and taking the improved contract on offer.[/SPOILER]

Now for having the temerity to voice those views in the Transfer forum, the trigger happy Censors posing as mods last night decided to re-interpret those sincerely held views as Wumming which actually means insofar as i am concerned nothing more than a knee-jerk response to a contrary view that doesn't accord to those of the manc herd. Frankly, the vitriol and bile directed my way is really down to their fear that my analysis could be right.

Now, it may turn out that my analysis is not right but so what? It seems a valid argument from where we are now sitting.

Ridiculous! This forum is meant to serve debate which means posting and arguing different views. Those mods should be ashamed of themselves. I ask they reflect on the wrongness of their actions and so reinstate me to the relevant forums.

So mods,do the right thing. You may not agree withmyviews but that's no reason to behave as you have done.
 
Man I wish I had taken the advice of your tagline before reading this thread. Arsenal fans are only second to liverpool fans in terms of blind optimism.
 
This is just confirmation bias.

United are a better squad than Arsenal quite comfortably, and league position will reflect that at the end of the season.

You are classically underrating the strength of United's team. Rooney, Kagawa, Nani, Valencia, Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov (or RVP), Cleverly, Giggs rotating up top will be devastating.

Plus United have a very solid defence.

In regards to midfield I still rate Carrick-Scholes partnership higher than even Song-Wilshere.

Obviously, I disagree with you but I don't regard your remarks as Wumming
and I'm more than happy for you to continue to push them though I do regard you like your fellow travelling mancs as deluded.
 
Storey has ruined it for Gooner fans on here. He could post that exact same post word for word and mean it in a wumming way. Make you own mind up what that says about your honest opinions.

Not that I care.
 
Nothing wrong in an opposition fan having an opposite view. Peterstorey talks some sense in the football forums, and gets more stick there than he deserves, possibly because he's a contrary twat elsewhere, but his football views are usually well reasoned, and he often talks more sense on things United concerned than some of the United fans on here.He won't mind me calling him a contrary twat, he knows himself.

In this instance though, the OP is just a massive, swinging, flaccid tool.
 
Storey has ruined it for Gooner fans on here. He could post that exact same post word for word and mean it in a wumming way. Make you own mind up what that says about your honest opinions.

Not that I care.

If Peter had posted it word for word no action would be taken.

I feel that like Pavlovs dog, some of you mancs turn into irrational slobbering raving nutters as soon as you see the Gillespie name even before reading what I have to say.
 
I can agree that, in my opinion, United haven't played well for two seasons now. Not by our own high standards. However, Arsenal have still come nowhere near to us. I think most of us are expecting that it is only a matter of time before United find their groove once again, and if this is the case, then Arsenal have a big gap to close. Are Podolski, Giroud and Cazorla going to do that? Not in my opinion. I've seen all three and never been bown away by any, despite how some people suddenly rate Cazorla. The return of Vidic alone will be a huge boost to us.

This is just confirmation bias.

United are a better squad than Arsenal quite comfortably, and league position will reflect that at the end of the season.

You are classically underrating the strength of United's team. Rooney, Kagawa, Nani, Valencia, Welbeck, Hernandez, Berbatov (or RVP), Cleverly, Giggs rotating up top will be devastating.

Plus United have a very solid defence.

In regards to midfield I still rate Carrick-Scholes partnership higher than even Song-Wilshere.

Lads, this isn't the place for football debates, it's for admin/mod help...or whiny bitches.
 
Nothing wrong in an opposition fan having an opposite view. Peterstorey talks some sense in the football forums, and gets more stick there than he deserves

Nah, he starts to degrade into a feckhead whenever somebody calls him out on some bollix he talks and then starts to wum. It happens all to quickly these days with the state Arsenal are in.

For the record 'we have just signed some players' doesn't necessarily mean you've strengthened and look a threat.
 
Same shit, different year. If the points of view were refreshing and not with a history of wummery the mods would have let it go. As far as I can see the mods are generally easy going but you can't always cry wolf.
 
If Peter had posted it word for word no action would be taken.

I feel that like Pavlovs dog, some of you mancs turn into irrational slobbering raving nutters as soon as you see the Gillespie name even before reading what I have to say.

Meh, I don't think I've ever crossed swords with you to even care if you have a reputation or not.

Storey is a good poster, but a lot of it is twinged in Wum which is amusing, but does cast the other gooners in the same light. Especially when you get someone like Alastair who is a good chap, but Storey-lite and much more obvious when wumming.

In fairness, I don't take your post as wumming at all. Every season since we first won the prem ,rival fans have been claiming the same sort of things pre-season. That has never bothered me, so not sure why it'd be considered wumming. Misguided maybe, but no harm in it.

Unless, of course, you have a history in things that annoy the mods.
 
Arsenal have strengthened significantly and I confidently predict that Cazorla will be the purchase of the season.If we keep RVP, I expect us to be a greater threat to City than you lot. That is why I argue if trophies are the prime goal of RVP, he's better of staying than going to Utd.

Just brilliant.
 
Same shit, different year. If the points of view were refreshing and not with a history of wummery the mods would have let it go. As far as I can see the mods are generally easy going but you can't always cry wolf.

Not so, and as for failiing to come up with refreshing views, then everyone would be banned. Being criticised by you for a lack of artistic originality and attempting to use that as justification for some trigger happy mods is risible in the extreme.
 
Arsenal have strengthened significantly and I confidently predict that Cazorla will be the purchase of the season.If we keep RVP, I expect us to be a greater threat to City than you lot. That is why I argue if trophies are the prime goal of RVP, he's better of staying than going to Utd.

Just brilliant.

Why thank you.......wait a minute, you're not Wumming me are you? :D
 
Same shit, different year. If the points of view were refreshing and not with a history of wummery the mods would have let it go. As far as I can see the mods are generally easy going but you can't always cry wolf.

Opposing supporters should be allowed to say what Gillespie has said above. I bet a City supporter would have got short shrift from many last summer if they said they'd finish above us, but look what happened. I'm not sure exactly what Gillespie has said to get banned, but nobody can say for certain that Arsenal won't finish above us. He pissed me off with his anti-united views the other day, but we're no better than RAWK if we punish him for that.

I reckon he should be allowed back, but create a new thread with his spoilered text above and we can keep that debate in there. It would make a good thread.

Plus we can laugh at Arsenal around November time when their title challenge is over!
 
Sorry dude but Arsenal are slipping (and have been since 2005) and will struggle for 4th with Spurs

With the RVP stuff and Song maybe leaving there is a sinking ship feeling to Arsenal

They would have been better off just stating that RVP is not for sale - CL qualification failure could cost the 20 million they would get for RVP anyway

Arsenal will still play some lovely football but Podolski, Giroud, Gervinho, Walcott etc aren't gonna get the goals Arsenal need

As I said Arsenal's season will be trophy less yet again and the highlight will be a win against spurs or narrowly finishing 4th
 
Opposing supporters should be allowed to say what Gillespie has said above. I bet a City supporter would have got short shrift from many last summer if they said they'd finish above us, but look what happened. I'm not sure exactly what Gillespie has said to get banned, but nobody can say for certain that Arsenal won't finish above us. He pissed me off with his anti-united views the other day, but we're no better than RAWK if we punish him for that.

I reckon he should be allowed back, but create a new thread with his spoilered text above and we can keep that debate in there. It would make a good thread.

Plus we can laugh at Arsenal around November time when their title challenge is over!


Excellent post and I fully support your suggestion. In fact, I really do think you should become a mod......there's clearly a need for a greater degree of fair mindedness that you would bring to bear.
 
You can believe what You want, Gillespie but that trophy cabinet of Yours looks the same, every year, while Arsenal supporters running their mouths like they achieved something big.

Your team is in constant changes and simply not stable. Don't believe it, look at all players that fecked off to City. They're happier now and achieving their ambitions with actual impact on reality.

Try not to finally win Premiership, next year, then expect other best players to leave.

Same shit, different year indeed, FlawlessThaw.
 
If Peter had posted it word for word no action would be taken.

I feel that like Pavlovs dog, some of you mancs turn into irrational slobbering raving nutters as soon as you see the Gillespie name even before reading what I have to say.

You realise that Pavlov's dogs drooled when they heard the bell exactly because they'd so often received food when they heard the bell? Thus they associated the sound of the bell with food.

So, by comparing yourself to Pavlov's dogs, you've essentially admitted that you talk shit; so often, in fact, that we've come to associate your name with that talking of shit. Thus, when we see that name, we assume it's going to be inane bollocks.
 
Opposing supporters should be allowed to say what Gillespie has said above. I bet a City supporter would have got short shrift from many last summer if they said they'd finish above us, but look what happened. I'm not sure exactly what Gillespie has said to get banned, but nobody can say for certain that Arsenal won't finish above us. He pissed me off with his anti-united views the other day, but we're no better than RAWK if we punish him for that.

I reckon he should be allowed back, but create a new thread with his spoilered text above and we can keep that debate in there. It would make a good thread.

Plus we can laugh at Arsenal around November time when their title challenge is over!

People aren't banned for what they say (unless it's particularly abusive/insulting). If they were then there'd be plenty of posters banned before Gillespie. He's generally wrong - as in this case, oh so wrong - but other than that there's nothing wrong with his opinions...

Perhaps he would've been allowed back if he dealt with it in private rather than whining about this grave injustice to the whole forum, sadly that never happened.
 
Excellent post and I fully support your suggestion. In fact, I really do think you should become a mod......there's clearly a need for a greater degree of fair mindedness that you would bring to bear.

I spend most of my time arguing on here and getting shiny new taglines for having a differing opinion. I don't think I'd make the best mod in fairness :lol:
 
People aren't banned for what they say (unless it's particularly abusive/insulting). If they were then there'd be plenty of posters banned before Gillespie. He's generally wrong - as in this case, oh so wrong - but other than that there's nothing wrong with his opinions...

Perhaps he would've been allowed back if he dealt with it in private rather than whining about this grave injustice to the whole forum, sadly that never happened.

Well, stone me! That's just plain untrue.

I PM'ed you and Man Utd Mrs as soon as it happened last night because you were showing as being on duty to no avail.

Unless, you also disabled my PM facility? I ask, because my sent messages
folder doesn't recognise any sent messages making me think i can't send any.

In the end I asked Red Dreams to intervene on my behalf.

I only posted this today because you refused to respond to me or provide any
explanation.
 
Arsenal fans are bordering on scouse levels of delusion these days.

You lack a talisman anywhere on the pitch, aside from RVP who will soon leave. Your defence is leaky, your keepers don't inspire confidence and your midfield can be outmuscled and even outskilled. Cazorla is a decent player, but he will not be the one to turn your fortunes around. I would be questioning whether Wenger is still the right man for the job.
 
Yes, I disabled your PM facility and bit by bit I'm tearing away each and every one of your human rights. That's what I've been planning all along. I've got another explanation which refers to me perhaps being asleep at the moment you sent it, and perhaps a bit of patience might've gone a long way, but who would believe such a ludicrous excuse...
 
Yes, I disabled your PM facility and bit by bit I'm tearing away each and every one of your human rights. That's what I've been planning all along. I've got another explanation which refers to me perhaps being asleep at the moment you sent it, and perhaps a bit of patience might've gone a long way, but who would believe such a ludicrous excuse...

You were showing as online when I PMed you
Anyway, let's draw a line under all this, reinstate my privileges and transfer this thread to the football forum as suggested above so we can continue to have a civilised and stimulating debate

I can't say fairer than that

On the PM facility...... Did you disable it really as my PMs sent are not recorded?
 
I was banned from the United forum for having an opinion people didn't agree with. But there you go, there are some mods who are like that. Most aren't, which is why this is Redcafe, not RAWK.
 
You realise that Pavlov's dogs drooled when they heard the bell exactly because they'd so often received food when they heard the bell? Thus they associated the sound of the bell with food.

So, by comparing yourself to Pavlov's dogs, you've essentially admitted that you talk shit; so often, in fact, that we've come to associate your name with that talking of shit. Thus, when we see that name, we assume it's going to be inane bollocks.
Ironically, without meaning to at all, Gillespie perfectly described his continuing interactions with this forum.
 
Mods can't do that, perhaps an Admin did but I'd suggest that's highly unlikely. More likely you just ticked/unticked one of those boxes by accident. We'll draw a line under it by closing this thread...if you want to take it any further PM Spoony, he knows the score.
 
I'm infracting Gillie for abusing the admin/mod help forum.
 
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