The whole thing is an endless cycle of violence.
But it is a genocide, Wibble. You would have to recognize that (you probably have) to remain credible within this topic. (I don't trawl through people's posts but I'm sure you have recognized it).
The point is that yes there is a long cycle of violence but qualitatively this has never happened before (not even the original catastrophe (or Nakba as it's called) comes close to what is now happening. There has to be a recognition of this. A premeditated cleansing operation that the Israelis have been engaged in ever since Oslo, really, regardless of what they say (what they do testifies more than what they say, and that's just truthful). Bantustands within the WB on purpose to make life (as every settler says openly) as miserable for the indigenous Palestinians (internationally recognized as such) as possible. In the hope they'll leave. And the state has backed them every bit of the way. The Supreme Court, the last bastion of some sanity, before they basically burned it down, ruled that many of the settlements had to come down. Was that ruling adhered to? No, the opposite of does a bear shit in the woods and is the pope a catholic (i.e., do the Israelis give a flying feck about rulings national or international which protect the WB and Gaza from encroachment -- not at all).
You might get the reaction (not a mind reader) you do because this is genocide and entirely asymmetric. I.e., "it's all just a violent mess" obscures the fact that it is the Israelis, and you cannot doubt it, who are entirely responsible for what is now happening regardless of what has happened in the past. And it is ethnic cleansing on two fronts with a full out genocide on one. This is by their own admission. You can find it within the corridors of Israeli government. All that which is said (remove them from the land and murder them and destroy them) is also done. If it were any other state on the planet there would be too many sanctions to name. Because it is a western European colonial settler state (not all the Jewish people there are European but most are, in ancestory), they just get away with it.
South Africa is not for nothing the only state (serious state) which is prosecuting them relentlessly because it is the same type of thing which happened there (and by design according to heads and former heads of the internal security services: they took SA as a map for the apartheid situation and implemented it -- they are on the record as saying it).
China moved few a thousand muslims into re-education camps (terrible as that is) and it was called a cultural genocide. Israel has been as cruel as about any nation since the second world war or vietnam and you cannot find this being called a "genocide" (feck off with "war") in the United States or Europe even when everyone pretending knows that in years to come it will be called precisely that. What kind of fecked up logic is that?
In five years (let's say ten) it will be taught in many places around the world as a case study in genocide. It already is, no doubt, at higher level academia. I.e., you know the outcome (historical consensus) already but persist with "war" when it is a fecking genocide.
