I fecking hate Israel.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
genuinely weird, weren't rabin's assassins insane ultranationalists?
maybe they hate that the war was stopped because of the hostages, and are angry that the hostages weren't suffering enough to justify stopping the slaughter? otherwise can't understand why a right-wing murderer would have this view.
e - nvm, he seems to be an insane religious person?
@berbatrick I went down the rabbit hole with your last post about Hagay Amir and came across this great short read.
Dy assistant secretary, and that's a high-enough level to get the lobby alarmed
have to admire their focus i guess.
i think harvard (and many other organisations) are correct about the place of zionism in jewish identity. i used to think the opposite 6 years ago, but was wrong. among others, the caste system is a part of hinduism, the legal inferiority of women is a part of islam, and zionism is a part of judaism. the question is what countries and secular institutions should do with this knowledge.
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Israeli forces have besieged a Palestinian government hospital in Jenin and a nearby refugee camp in the heart of the city, as the Israeli defence minister, Israel Katz, said the assault marked “a shift in … security strategy” in the West Bank.
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Wednesday they had carried out airstrikes in Jenin as well as detonating roadside explosive devices. The Palestinian health ministry said at least 10 people had been killed in Jenin, and more than 40 wounded.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-palestinian-hospital-refugee-camp-west-bank
The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Wednesday they had carried out airstrikes in Jenin as well as detonating roadside explosive devices. The Palestinian health ministry said at least 10 people had been killed in Jenin, and more than 40 wounded.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d-palestinian-hospital-refugee-camp-west-bank
The Israeli Military Is One of Microsoft's Top AI Customers, Leaked Documents Reveal
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/microsoft-azure-israel-top-customer-ai-cloud
Leaked documents expose deep ties between Israeli army and Microsoft
https://www.972mag.com/microsoft-azure-openai-israeli-army-cloud/
It's always good to mention the role of the PA in all of this. I listened to some hilarious dude from Fatah following the ceasefire agreement talking about the PA also resisting the occupation in their own way.
This is fecking disgusting. I’m fed up of them weaponising antisemitism. There was literally one Israeli official who said that Gaza should be turned into Auschwitz. And Israel from its beginning has been a racist endeavour. Calling that us does not make one a Jew hater.
How the feck can these people even say this is good conscience? How the feck is this evil murderous monster who shows no remorse “righteous”?
There's a lot to unlock here so I waited until I have the time.
I'll actually start with the part about people leaving the country - yes, they already are leaving. In 2024, about 24,000 Israelis came back and 83,000 left. Now, some of those who left might have gone for a temporary relocation and will come back, but a deficit - and such a big one, 60,000 - is unusual here. We're talking about people with quality professions, like doctors, Hi-Tech, etc. Rumlings about people leaving started with the "judicial reform" throughout 2023 and obviously the war and the actions of the government since weren't going to help keep those people here. Even I'm working on obtaining a foreign citizenship, as I'm not sure this will be the country I'd like to stay in for the rest of my life.
Israelis are tired. Israeli Society is torn to shreds. It was fractured for decades, but now the different factions struggle to co-exist. You have the left (not many left there), the avid Netanyahu supporters, the moderate right, the ultra-orthodox who just want to guarentee the continuation of their secluded lives, the far-right (the religious extremists you mention), the Arab population. You have politicians using Israelis ethnic origins and decades-old stories about discrimination in order to turn people against each other and for their own political gain.
It's hard for people to unite around something, especially now. If I ask you about major events in your country since 2019, you'd probably say Covid. Well, we had Covid, and five round of elections, and the chaos regarding the investigations against Netanyahu and his trial, and the "Judicial reforms" and then October 7, and the war. And during those years there were so many protests and demonstrations. People have had enough. They can't do it anymore, year after year after year after year. Endless in-fighting, which ended up getting us very little.
It's not really about indiference towards the Palestenians and their lives. It's about everything. Protests for the release of the hostages struggled to gain traction. The war has also been costly which means that the cost of living in Israel - which was already high - has now risen due to tax changes, prices going up, etc. Do you think people here have gone to the street in order to process? Nope, even when things are affecting them personally they just accept it and move on. Like I said, they are tired.
Regarding the religious extremists - again, I don't think that they have become such a large number. They simply have more poliitical power because Netanyahu needs them in order to be PM, which is what he cares about the most.
And if I had to sum it up, I'd say: There are a lot of good Israelis, but yeah, the country is going to shit.
fecking evil. Disgusting that she’s gloating like that.
Nearly 40,000 Palestinian Children Orphaned by War in Gaza
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/20000-palestinian-children-orphaned-by-gaza-war
Zionist doing zionist things
I agree with you but in retrospect I think it's been a mistake for a lot of protest groups especially campus protests to call out Zionism so heavily. it's allowed them to weaponise the term against criticism where really the concern is simply fascists. Zionism is just used as a mask for fascist behaviour in the same way patriotism is, we should call a spade a spade and label them Israeli fascists.
I think there's a bit more to it than that.
If you call it Israeli fascism, you'll find a lot of allies within Israel, who oppose Bibi's weakening of the Israeli judiciary. And in general that phrase will point to the right-wing faction within Israel (Bibi, Ben Gvir, Smotrich, the settlers). Who are monsters.
But for Palestinians, the problems are much deeper than that. The problem stems from their cleansing, displacement, occupation, which are products not of one wing, but fundamental to Israel from its foundation to today. And correspondingly today, we see widespread support for the IDF's brutality in Gaza, from every side of Israeli society and politics. It's the founding ideology - Zionism - that is a problem.
Not sure if this is a great analogy, but, it was possible in the early 20th C for people to oppose the British Empire without necessarily wanting to overthrow the royal family or parliament. It basically meant they had to leave India or Malaysia or Kenya, while they could continue to rule Britain (let's ignore NI for now!)
But with I/P, there is no corresponding thing to the home islands. Getting the colonial power out will mean the end of that nation-state. Possibly in a very violent way. And for those reasons, even small reductions in colonial authority and savagery, become existential threats to Israel, rather than things that can be negotiated.
Your first sentence universally applies to this subject of course and you're correct it is rooted in Zionism. However I'm very narrowly talking about the framing of criticism against Israel in the west to both protect the right of protest and make it effective. They know how to play that game and frankly protestors don't because they deal in truths.
Shouting from the rooftops about Zionism will never be tolerated or mainstreamed in the west but discussing the fascist elements of Israel will.
Four more hostages released - four women from the IDF.
All four seemed happy and healthy, waving to Hamas and the crowds watching, and they got a goodie bag...I'm glad they're released.
All four seemed happy and healthy, waving to Hamas and the crowds watching, and they got a goodie bag...I'm glad they're released.
Reckon Gaza to be the final resting place of Western Liberalism.
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They chose a man with no intelligence, empathy, sense of history, humility, or basically any positive human trait for POTUS. It’s so fecking disgusting.
More bombs to Israel, “cleaning the whole thing”, etc: none of this is surprising. Expect more to follow.
l mean, thus is how you make “peace” in Gaza. Get all people of Gaza out, and you have no problems…
l mean, thus is how you make “peace” in Gaza. Get all people of Gaza out, and you have no problems…
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So it begins.
Two-year-old Palestinian Killed by IDF Fire in West Bank Raid; Army: Investigating Incident
The Palestinian Ministry of Health reported that two-year-old Laila Al-Khatib was shot in the head.Israeli troops kill 11 in south Lebanon
Israeli forces killed at least 11 people and wounded dozens more trying to return to their homes in southern LebanonCease-fire deals and they continues to slaughter civilians like it's nothing. I've come to absolutely despise this Israeli government, their army and anyone supporting this shit.
Voting for Trump looking like a great idea for those wanting a better outcome outcome for Palestinians.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...000-pound-bombs-to-israel-undoing-biden-pause
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...000-pound-bombs-to-israel-undoing-biden-pause
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Yep, sucks to be them right now, can you imagine their faces!
Anyway don't forget to come back in another 6 months to remind us all again, after some other exploitable tragedy occurs.
Anyway don't forget to come back in another 6 months to remind us all again, after some other exploitable tragedy occurs.
Well, I for one know I'd rather have my family murdered by a small bomb rather than a really big one.
When fascism spreads throughout the West without resistance, remember it started when your governments and institutions supported genocide and ethnic cleansing for 15 months and still haven't stopped while treating the few against it like they were subhuman.
You can see the zionist lobby and his creepy son-in-law's hands all over Trump's suggestion.
Their dreams aren't as easily achieved as their deranged minds think.
Their dreams aren't as easily achieved as their deranged minds think.
That is your response?
Oh dear.
I was thinking more about it being a disaster than a victory.
If you voted for Trump because you wanted a better outcome for Palestinians then you might well be an idiot, a rube, a delusional goon but then at least you had enough humanity to be concerned with getting a better outcome for Palestinians. Surely that beats someone who doesn't give a shit about Palestinians and who just callously sneaks about, waiting to rub people's noses in the death and carnage out of spite.
Oh dear.
That's coming from the guy who thinks that Syrians should give up on the Golan Heights and Israel invading and occupying new territories in Syria, for "security" reasons is something any country would do. I'd have never guessed.
You post here once in a blue moon, if any. You just saw another chance to take dump on the Arab/Muslim voters, who are a drop in the ocean, while more than half of the US voted for that madman. I know it's quite trendy at the moment and helps people forget that the last US President unconditionally supported the genocide in Gaza in the past 18 months.
Your post was nothing more than schadenfreude.
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Those of us who voted for Harris were considered selfish and heartless. We expressed clear dissatisfaction and anger about Biden’s policies in the Middle East. But we also knew who was/is Trump. He feels the needs to out-Biden Biden when it comes to supporting Israel.
He's a Brit in Australia. Might be confusing him with someone else.
No, I didn't confuse him as I read enough of his posts to know his stance, but I thought that he was American.
I'll edit that part in my reply.