Israel-Palestine | Genocide in Gaza
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More military aid to Israel.
- Israeli settler in the West Bank:"I can admit that there's something fascist about me. I'm not hiding it. I don't believe there's another way."
- NYT journalist: "Really? I sense a lack of political correctness."
- NYT journalist: "Really? I sense a lack of political correctness."
I know that clip. It's quite something how honest these settlers are. It's from this NYTimes piece.
I remember in the days after Oct 7, the debate going something like :
"these animals kill children unlike us!"
"actually you kill many more"
"well, that's from bombing, not face to face, that's different, not intentional, not celebrated".
Imagine how sick you would have.to be to do shit like that? Also, I remember when American and UK soldiers have faced punishment for things not too dissimilar. These monsters do this with impunity.
Thanks for the link.
They're honest because they truly believe in their (racial) superiority and a god given right to own the land. Therefore they don't see their actions as inherently reprehensible. I ain't even mad at her.
Absolutely nothing new under the sun, it's the mindset that naturally finds its way and grows in a colonial society, especially when mixed with a healthy dose of religious fanatism. History is littered with similar examples. In the video, they follow up with clips of Afrikaaners who reason along the same lines.
What makes my blood boil, is the absolute lack of pushback and repercussion. People lost their jobs because they advocated for a Palestinian state and this fascist gets a "Yo, this ain't politically correct".
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Macron says recognizing a Palestinian state is not a taboo for France
https://apnews.com/article/france-macron-palestinians-israel-5d37250a1e55c15c2847fc22b4975ba1
@Frosty Funny joke in the context of the film but not sure how it fits here and it's in bad taste anyway.
Deleted. It was meant to highlight the absurdity of the framing of the situation by the Israeli Government, but you are right. Apologies.
No problem.
Were American or UK soldiers ever accused of sniping children?
One other problem is that there's a big audience for this type of stuff.
This account and the one in berbatrick's tweet have posted hundreds of videos like this uploaded by those soldiers. They wouldn't have done so if there was no huge demand for this.
Not that it makes much difference but Jenin is in the West Bank.
A number of children were shot dead by British soldiers in Northern Ireland. Just to speak of the UK.
They have been accused of killing children in the past, as well as torture, murder of unarmed combatants, taking humiliating pictures of enemy soldiers and sharing them, including pissing on them, also sharing pictures of dead bodies etc....
Although my point was more that when these things were made public those involved were usually tried and convicted. The cases I was thinking of were the humiliating pictures and pictures of dead enemy fighters being shared and the resulting outrage in the press and public and then the punishment afterwards. That's what was in the post I was replying to. However the IDF soldiers post these daily and face no consequences whatsoever.
Not quite sure where you were going with the dead children reply and making a leap and comparison that wasn't there or implied.
My point was that whatever US or UK soldiers did it absolutely pales in comparison to the IDF.
Yeah, I accept that, but I wasn't making that comparison or suggesting that. Just replying to the sick and twisted pictures and videos that the IDF continuously post day after day without any consequences whatsoever and pointing out UK and US soldiers have been heavily punished for doing the same in the past. Actually, I think when they did it they were punished for sharing the pictures between themselves and not posting them on social media like the IDF are.
Anyway, it's fecking sick and it's yet another crime to add to the long list of disgusting and depraved actions carried out without consequence while the world looks on.
Yep, the mind absolutely boggles how anyone can try and justify or defend this. Absolutely it does.
And yet it's happening. Even on here no less.
Yeah, no.
You don't think that the IDF is the most unhinged professional fighting force of the modern era?
Whatever UK or US soldiers did, and boy they did some, their standards are still miles higher than the IDF's.
It's an easy feat since the latter has none when it comes to Palestinians. They snipe children, women, elderly and unarmed people. They bomb out a whole neighborhood (or a refugee camp) to try to get one guy. They deliberately target ambulances and journalists. They help settlers stealing and burning Palestinian homes.
There's not a single shred of morality to be found in the IDF, bar a few exceptions. It's a racist, colonial army that acts like one. What we see now is nothing out of the ordinary for anyone familiar with this conflict, it's just never been so well documented. I guess we can thank Twitter and TikTok for that. Small mercies.
The only difference is that it never makes the front pages in the western mainstream media and even if it does, the West just doesn't give a shit. You know, Palestinians.
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Sorry mate, I totally misread your post.
I fully agree with you. The IDF makes the Russians look like choir boys.
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Yep. It's unreal.
I don't disagree. As I said I wasn't comparing in that way, just the posting/sharing of pictures/videos and the consequences or lack of.
Western leaders embarrassing themselves, episode 80735950:
In English:
Scholz is a clown... At least Merz (the leader of the other big party in Germany) is half honest. He is unapologetically supporting the Israeli regime while it commits a massacre. And he is not pretending to be giving Israel any advices.
In English:
Scholz is a clown... At least Merz (the leader of the other big party in Germany) is half honest. He is unapologetically supporting the Israeli regime while it commits a massacre. And he is not pretending to be giving Israel any advices.
Choir boys who flattened Grozny during the Chechen wars, after which the UN designated it the most destroyed city on Earth in 2002.
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If the russians would be in a situation of power like the idf that is protected by the west, the western media, they propbably do even worse. Butcha and constant rapes of ukranians and even its own mobiks, can give a faithful hint. Just they cant feck around the same as the idf bc they have a competent army facing them
Idf is like the SS in its own territory. No fear of any consequences over a hopeless population that consider inferior
If you look at what the British military did in response to anticolonial struggles, then things are more similar. And this is an anticolonial struggle.
The British pretty much put the entire Kikuyu population in concentration camps in Kenya in the 1950s, and operated death squads in Malaya.
Colonialism dehumanises the colonised, and it makes the coloniser do inhuman deeds in the name of civilisation.
Since the end of WWII, Germany's had a long line of great chancellors, true statesmen and -woman, despite their flaws. To have this fecking wimp as head of the state at such a crucial moment makes one want to cry.
You can add the war in Afghanistan in the eighties, the mass rapes in Germany in 1945... the list is long and the Russians are known to have a very loose interpretation of the laws of war.
However there's a level of institutionalized racism, dehumanization and sadism in the IDF that only occurs in armies of occupation, fed by a firm belief in oneself's superiority compared to the natives. And I mean by that, the good old school colonial countries from previous centuries, treating the indigenous populations as barely human in the best case and unleashing absolute violence at the slightest threat against the established order.
People need to realize that this is no normal war but a colonial one. The last one.
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Colonialism dehumanizes both sides.
Wars of independence can't be won by the coloniser. It's a lost cause, no matter how much violence is used.
For someone born 99 years ago, Fanon's analysis is still bang on.
Ah, I see the great man being quoted for the second time in this thread.
He's been a revelation for me as a teenager, one of my favourite writers and I personally consider him as one of the most influencial scholars in this particular field.