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Turns out the jokes about the video game NPC tactics of the IDF are in fact true

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/08/israeli-soldiers-idf-gaza-fighting-disaster-area
 


In Gaza City, the Israeli army targeted the Bank of Palestine, a bank renowned for its professionalism and international recognition. This institution, known for its strict policies against opening accounts for Hamas members for several years, was allegedly robbed of 55 million USD(Israel admitted that). Such actions raise profound questions about state conduct. In my studies of rebels and non-state actors, there have been very few instances where these groups engaged in bank robberies during operations. There has never been a. Case where a state army work as a thieves and do a robbery. Notably, even when ISIS took control of Mosul in 2014, they reportedly did not take cash from the banks. The behavior of the Israeli army is challenging norms and raising serious ethical and legal characteristics of the Israeli army and the state itself.
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Idxomer said:


See the whole thread. All of this is documented by the IOF, same as a lot of the savagery committed in Gaza. They are proud of their conduct and know there's no repercussion to their actions.
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They are making the Russians look like saints.
 
Giggsyking said:
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So the white American knee is going firmly back on the black neck.

Colour me surprised. Israeli IDF and settlers a reflection of their government and vice versa. American police a reflection of the American government, and vice versa.
 
Denis79 said:
They are making the Russians look like saints.
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Indeed. The IDF is one of the worst and most barbaric armies on this planet.

Its absolute disregard for any kind of morality or trigger discipline is a sight to behold. If anyone missed the boat and wonders how a colonial army operates, look no further. That's what an ingrained belief of racial superiority due to decades of occupation and impunity does to a human mindset.
 
The superbowl kicks off and Israel starts their futile cleansing of the rafah camp. So clever and so brave of the most moralistic army to have ever raised a weapon.

What's the tactical point in all of this? Will the result of alienating at a minimum one third of the world's population be worth this? Is a pyrrhic victory really more desirable?
 
RedTiger said:
What's the tactical point in all of this? Will the result of alienating at a minimum one third of the world's population be worth this? Is a pyrrhic victory really more desirable?
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Most of them don't think they are alienating anyone, because
That_Bloke said:
That's what an ingrained belief of racial superiority due to decades of occupation and impunity does to a human mindset.
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berbatrick said:
nah they love it

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For those that are atheist you might struggle to reconcile the existence of God. But watching the USA and Israel surely you believe in the existence of the Devil now? He has made himself known and has amassed his followers.
 
Just seen Israel brag that they managed to rescue two hostages during a raid last night, proudly stating that they destroyed lots of nearby civilian buildings as a deflection tactic to take the hostage takers by surprise.

I admire those who keep trying to reply to pro-Israel posters, but the fact is, if anybody is still not convinced that Israel is completely fecked up by now, then they will never change their opinion no matter how many children who are getting slaughtered and no matter how many war crimes obviously being committed.
 
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That_Bloke said:
Indeed. The IDF is one of the worst and most barbaric armies on this planet.

Its absolute disregard for any kind of morality or trigger discipline is a sight to behold. If anyone missed the boat and wonders how a colonial army operates, look no further. That's what an ingrained belief of racial superiority due to decades of occupation and impunity does to a human mindset.
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It's terrorists 'fighting' terrorists. Israel is just another version Hamas but with more and more powerful weapons. Both target civilians deliberately without remorse.

If Israel want to conduct themselves as terrorists the world should treat them as such, simple.
 
Denis79 said:
It's terrorists 'fighting' terrorists. Israel is just another version Hamas but with more and more powerful weapons. Both target civilians deliberately without remorse.

If Israel want to conduct themselves as terrorists the world should treat them as such, simple.
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This is factually incorrect. They have gone way past Hamas at this point. They are incomparably worse.
 
Denis79 said:
It's terrorists 'fighting' terrorists. Israel is just another version Hamas but with more and more powerful weapons. Both target civilians deliberately without remorse.

If Israel want to conduct themselves as terrorists the world should treat them as such, simple.
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Hamas only really exists due to Israeli terrorism. It's a direct reaction to decades of brutal occupation and oppression. Removing that, and ensuring statehood for Palestinians, the right to return for their refugees, and equality, plurality and security would make Hamas obsolete overnight.
 
As one of the replies said, the fact that an official account uses a fake photo says a lot about how much real physical aid is getting in.

 
Idxomer said:


I'm seeing a lot of concerned politicians now after all the destruction and the massacres that happened with their help.

Funny enough that suggestion from Cameron isn't much different from what Hamas wanted in the latest talks.
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It's a fight is it?

I love the wording these shameless wankers use "a pause in the fighting". When "a brutal indiscriminate bombing campaign against a civilian population" would be more accurate.
 
The Corinthian said:
Hamas only really exists due to Israeli terrorism. It's a direct reaction to decades of brutal occupation and oppression. Removing that, and ensuring statehood for Palestinians, the right to return for their refugees, and equality, plurality and security would make Hamas obsolete overnight.
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In a perfect world yes. But there will always be extremist factions of the Palestinians that want Israel eradicated and factions on the far right in Israel that want the land back. It is hard to imagine a world where the two can co-exist peacefully.
 
Dumbstar said:
For those that are atheist you might struggle to reconcile the existence of God. But watching the USA and Israel surely you believe in the existence of the Devil now? He has made himself known and has amassed his followers.
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I'm really struggling to understand what point you're trying to get at here.

The last thing I think when looking at this absolute destitution is that there's definitely some kind of omnipotent God in the style of the Abrahamic religions and the various follow on acts that come with him (ie Angels/ Devils/Djinn).

Unless I guess if you're a particularly vindictive religious Jew who's seeing it in the context of this being God's punishment to those who dare attack Jews.
 
Israel says international Rafah calls are 'complicit with Hamas' strategy'
The Israeli goverment has accused Western leaders urging Israel not to proceed with military operations in Rafah of being "complicit with Hamas's human shields' strategy".

"In telling Israel not to attack because civilians will be hurt, but then resisting efforts to get civilians out of harm's way, they have rendered themselves complicit with Hamas’ human shields strategy," said Israeli government spokesman Eylon Levy.

"The United Nations and international actors now face a fateful choice. Do they want to save Hamas or save Palestinian civilians?" added Levy.
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Make it make sense. To save Palestinian civilians, we must slaughter Palestinian civilians in the one place they're currently clustered.

Even the Western governments are now apparently Hamas sympathisers.
 
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