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israel says they were (from their west bank hospital bed) going to carry out a "10/7 style attack". i personally see no reason to doubt any part of that claim at all.
 


I wouldn't advise listening to the end. There's still no new information about the 6-year-old girl or the ambulance a day later.
 
At this rate the area will be uninhabitable. I wonder if that’s the real aim.
Couple that to Israelis holding quite candid discussions on settlement plans while talking about 'migrating Palestinians' then you have an idea behind their nefarious objectives here.
 
https://mediareviewnet.com/2024/01/hamas-throws-down-the-gauntlet/

' This could be resolved quickly and easily. Hamas stands ready to appear before the ICC with witnesses and live testimony and bear the burden of any judicial finding against it or its members after a full and fair trial with rules of evidence; with examination and cross examination into we have done or not over the many years of our leadership as a national liberation movement. Is Israel? '
 
And the next question is: who is going to rebuild all that?
And the next question is; who is going to pay for that?

At this rate the area will be uninhabitable. I wonder if that’s the real aim.
It already is.

Aside from the housings, they've deliberately targeted and destroyed every major civilian infrastructures, power plants. Even water wells and cemeteries are not spared. Add to that every civilian and administrative documents and records (places and date of birth/death, property records, etc...) they could get their hands on, and even stole money from the banks.

The aim is very clear.
 
It shouldn't come as a surprise if UN money ends up with Hamas given they were the defacto government in Gaza, so any aid and money would need to be administered by them, which would also make it vulnerable to being used as Hamas leaders saw fit. And since Hamas have always prioritized resources related to military objectives over civilian economic development of the strip, it shouldn't be a surprise that their people are not only embedded within aid organizations, but the aid itself is often being usurped of military purposes.

Speaking of the money, this CNN article has the list of the top 25 donors on the last time that pledges were fully counted back in 2022. I didn't know that the US and Germany were the biggest donors by a country mile over the rest, but this fact also brings new light as to why the 12 countries are suspending funding as they want the money to go in the right places. What is really interesting to me though as I look at the graph is how certain geopolitical players out there have particular interests in this conflict and yet are too cheap to offer as little as $5.8M in public pledges, which is the amount coming from within the Palestinian territories themselves for 2022.
 
Speaking of the money, this CNN article has the list of the top 25 donors on the last time that pledges were fully counted back in 2022. I didn't know that the US and Germany were the biggest donors by a country mile over the rest, but this fact also brings new light as to why the 12 countries are suspending funding as they want the money to go in the right places. What is really interesting to me though as I look at the graph is how certain geopolitical players out there have particular interests in this conflict and yet are too cheap to offer as little as $5.8M in public pledges, which is the amount coming from within the Palestinian territories themselves for 2022.
What is your problem man? Palestinians don't even have a state so what constitutes a Palestinian territory? How much money do you think these stateless people have to spare exactly?
 
There is a disturbing video of Palestinian detainees from Gaza on a bus.. It's better to not share it here because it bring back the ages of slavery. Check it on twitter.
 
Biden‘s response to whether he holds Iran responsible for the American soldiers deaths in Jordan.

”I do hold them responsible… in the sense that they’re supplying the weapons to the people who did it”.

Fine …… but the US funding Israel’s genocide is ok?
What are you on about? This is a very simple situation, the Gaza situation is extremely complex.
 
What is your problem man? Palestinians don't even have a state so what constitutes a Palestinian territory? How much money do you think these stateless people have to spare exactly?

Hey, don't blame me. Blame the graph on CNN for calling it what it is.

I was referring to the likes of Russia and China being confirmed cheapskates towards UNRWA, despite the fact that they have their own geopolitical interests in destabilizing the West or in gaining more influence by any means.
 
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I doubt these guys have any conscience, but I hope they do and it's eating them inside.
 
I doubt these guys have any conscience, but I hope they do and it's eating them inside.

Keep dreaming. the ones that they don't resign are like that cnut

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There is in the sense that casualties per day were highest during the initial, random bombings of everything and everyone in Gaza. Did Israel commit a genocide then? Possibly, ICJ’s initial ruling certainly suggests they suspect this might have been the case. The question (which was what I was commenting on) then becomes, what could the US do to prevent that? They could have stopped supplying Israel with weapons, which would have made little difference as Israel don’t really rely on military donations from the US anymore. They could have ordered Israel, through the Security Council, to stop the war. There’s no guarantee Israel would have listened, they may just have gotten more aggressive if they felt isolated and abandoned with noone to answer to. Or they could use the fact they have a direct phoneline and a cordial relationship to exert diplomatic pressure, which is what they have done, or tried to.

There are a lot less civilians to kill now though.
 


What more do we want to put these people through?

Don't worry, the IDF will cosplay being soldiers and tiktok raves in the desert and being welcomed home by their communities as heroes.

F*ck it to hell.
 


I noticed last night that the BBC News site had a gaza story as it's headline news item. Nothing different is suddenly happening in Gaza so why have they suddenly changed editorial direction? They've obviously has instruction from the government via it's leadership.

I think we're now inevitably into the revisionist phase. They've waited until Israel has flattened gaza and now western media can pretend it's humanitarian again.
 
I noticed last night that the BBC News site had a gaza story as it's headline news item. Nothing different is suddenly happening in Gaza so why have they suddenly changed editorial direction? They've obviously has instruction from the government via it's leadership.

I think we're now inevitably into the revisionist phase. They've waited until Israel has flattened gaza and now western media can pretend it's humanitarian again.

I think so. They waited 120 days.
 
Couple that to Israelis holding quite candid discussions on settlement plans while talking about 'migrating Palestinians' then you have an idea behind their nefarious objectives here.

If you are talking about a security zone, then OK. But there are no serious talks about settlement plans.
 
If you are talking about a security zone, then OK. But there are no serious talks about settlement plans.

From what I've seen it seems mainly the return to Gush Katif nutjobs, spurred on the two far right ministers.
 
I noticed last night that the BBC News site had a gaza story as it's headline news item. Nothing different is suddenly happening in Gaza so why have they suddenly changed editorial direction? They've obviously has instruction from the government via it's leadership.

I think we're now inevitably into the revisionist phase. They've waited until Israel has flattened gaza and now western media can pretend it's humanitarian again.

BBC want in on the horror porn. Boost their dwindling viewer figures. Israel have obviously ok'ed it meaning we must be near some end game now.
 
Apparently one of the terrorists was fully paralysed and Israel was concerned he'd be turned into a bionicle cyborg.

palestinians have darth vader technology from the mein kampf, as this documentary proves