Once again I find it fascinating how so few people will blame Iran for anything, particularly on the left.
It's Biden's fault for being weak. Oh but look at those war-mongering conservatives! They're so cringe.
Iran just gets to keep f*cking around with the world order, its agency is ignored or even accepted, and it's the fault of the western nations in how they react. The kid-glove treatment is staggering. The same vociferous voices that blame any US action in any foreign border is oddly silent when Iran do it, constantly.
Look at what Iran could achieve this year, and cost it virutally no citizens and no consequences: by instigating October 7th and (easily) predicting the Israeli response, it has entirely destablised that region, driven a wedge into world politics and created a swell of anti-Biden force that could see Trump get into power, thus ending US foreign-policy for at-best 4 years. By shutting down crucial shipping lanes, it has increased world inflation and impacted world economies to the tunes of billions and billions.
And what to consequence? Nothing.
Do the slowing death toll and increase in aid not suggest that the US have been somewhat successful in putting pressure on Israel in order to prevent what looked like a potential genocide? To me there’s absolutely no doubt that Israel cared extremely little about civilian casualties during the first two months of the war but it also seems quite clear that the pressure from the international community has forced Israel to temper their revenge-thirst. And the US, or anyone, could hardly tell Israel that they should just take the Hamas attack on the chin, could they?However, stopping current conflict should be rather easy for USA. Stop Israeli genocide in Gaza, and that's it. Then you can see what happens with Houthis, Hezbollah and other factions. But first stop genocide in Gaza. If you are going to let Israel carry out genocide, and you are also supplying them with weapons, while blaming others for destabilizing the region, then you are merely spewing bullshit.
Do the slowing death toll and increase in aid not suggest that the US have been somewhat successful in putting pressure on Israel in order to prevent what looked like a potential genocide? To me there’s absolutely no doubt that Israel cared extremely little about civilian casualties during the first two months of the war but it also seems quite clear that the pressure from the international community has forced Israel to temper their revenge-thirst. And the US, or anyone, could hardly tell Israel that they should just take the Hamas attack on the chin, could they?
Do the slowing death toll and increase in aid not suggest that the US have been somewhat successful in putting pressure on Israel in order to prevent what looked like a potential genocide? To me there’s absolutely no doubt that Israel cared extremely little about civilian casualties during the first two months of the war but it also seems quite clear that the pressure from the international community has forced Israel to temper their revenge-thirst. And the US, or anyone, could hardly tell Israel that they should just take the Hamas attack on the chin, could they?
If the extremely high civilian casualties triggered understandable worry about a potential genocide, why would a slowing of the same numbers not suggest (while not absolving Israel in any way) that international pressure, including US diplomatic pressure, might have an effect?Is that a serious question?
As does the anti-US propaganda. I did not defend Israel in any way, I literally said they seemed to be having genocidal intentions.Propaganda really does work on people, quite easily too.
If the extremely high civilian casualties triggered understandable worry about a potential genocide, why would a slowing of the same numbers not suggest (while not absolving Israel in any way) that international pressure, including US diplomatic pressure, might have an effect?
Syria get hit from everyone including their president of course.
As does the anti-US propaganda. I did not defend Israel in any way, I literally said they seemed to be having genocidal intentions.
This is such a silly distraction. You're operating in a war zone in a place run by a specific group for a couple of decades, you hire many thousands of local people, it's obvious some will be linked to the group running the fecking place.
There is in the sense that casualties per day were highest during the initial, random bombings of everything and everyone in Gaza. Did Israel commit a genocide then? Possibly, ICJ’s initial ruling certainly suggests they suspect this might have been the case. The question (which was what I was commenting on) then becomes, what could the US do to prevent that? They could have stopped supplying Israel with weapons, which would have made little difference as Israel don’t really rely on military donations from the US anymore. They could have ordered Israel, through the Security Council, to stop the war. There’s no guarantee Israel would have listened, they may just have gotten more aggressive if they felt isolated and abandoned with noone to answer to. Or they could use the fact they have a direct phoneline and a cordial relationship to exert diplomatic pressure, which is what they have done, or tried to.There's no slowing of civilian casualties, 350 were killed in less than 48 hours after the ICJ ruling. The north of Gaza is starving and can't find food. Ethnic cleansing in the same area happening as we speak while extreme zionists are holding conferences for more of the same that has been happening for decades.
Replied here as it's more relevant to this discussion.
There is in the sense that casualties per day were highest during the initial, random bombings of everything and everyone in Gaza. Did Israel commit a genocide then? Possibly, ICJ’s initial ruling certainly suggests they suspect this might have been the case. The question (which was what I was commenting on) then becomes, what could the US do to prevent that? They could have stopped supplying Israel with weapons, which would have made little difference as Israel don’t rely on military donations from the US anymore. They could have ordered Israel, through the Security Council, to stop the war. There’s no guarantee Israel would have listende, they may just have gotten more aggressive if they were isolated with noone to answer to. Or they could use the fact they have a direct phoneline and a cordial relationship to exert diplomatic pressure, which is what they have done.
back in the real world famine is now inevitable in Gaza.Do the slowing death toll and increase in aid not suggest that the US have been somewhat successful in putting pressure on Israel in order to prevent what looked like a potential genocide? To me there’s absolutely no doubt that Israel cared extremely little about civilian casualties during the first two months of the war but it also seems quite clear that the pressure from the international community has forced Israel to temper their revenge-thirst. And the US, or anyone, could hardly tell Israel that they should just take the Hamas attack on the chin, could they?
Slowing death toll? Have you seen how many have died this week alone?Do the slowing death toll and increase in aid not suggest that the US have been somewhat successful in putting pressure on Israel in order to prevent what looked like a potential genocide? To me there’s absolutely no doubt that Israel cared extremely little about civilian casualties during the first two months of the war but it also seems quite clear that the pressure from the international community has forced Israel to temper their revenge-thirst. And the US, or anyone, could hardly tell Israel that they should just take the Hamas attack on the chin, could they?
There is in the sense that casualties per day were highest during the initial, random bombings of everything and everyone in Gaza. Did Israel commit a genocide then? Possibly, ICJ’s initial ruling certainly suggests they suspect this might have been the case. The question (which was what I was commenting on) then becomes, what could the US do to prevent that? They could have stopped supplying Israel with weapons, which would have made little difference as Israel don’t rely on military donations from the US anymore. They could have ordered Israel, through the Security Council, to stop the war. There’s no guarantee Israel would have listende, they may just have gotten more aggressive if they were isolated with noone to answer to. Or they could use the fact they have a direct phoneline and a cordial relationship to exert diplomatic pressure, which is what they have done.
It has been known for a long time that the daily death toll would become increasingly inaccurate due to the destruction of hospitals, civil society, etc. who are the ones who can keep track.
For example, this story: "Gaza health officials say they lost the ability to count dead as Israeli offensive intensifies." That's from late November.
Or this other story, "The Daily Struggle to Count the Dead in Gaza." That's from late December.
You simply cannot claim that 'deaths have declined' with any degree of accuracy anymore.
30k dead, 70k injured, 60% of hospitals not functioning, 70% of housing destroyed or damaged, 80% of the population displaced. Malnutrition and disease spreading, starvation imminent. Israel (officially) killed 170 yesterday and stopped aid trucks arriving; meanwhile the majority of the west removed its support from the major Gazan aid agency.
Things are looking up.
The European Commission is reviewing the matter as well.Hate it that Yahoo News are quoting a Fox News article, but it indicates that the list of countries suspending aid to UNRWA has now grown to 12.
Austria suspends payments to UNRWA amid Israeli allegations UN workers helped, celebrated Hamas (Yahoo News)
Now you have Australia, Austria, Canada, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the Netherlands, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and the United States. It is serious when 2 nations (Austria and Switzerland) that are traditionally not geopolitically aligned with anybody are in this. As for Japan, they never feck around when there are allegations of corruption or misuse of Japanese money in aid or investment in other countries (like in Southeast Asia).
The Commission will review the matter in light of the outcome of the investigation announced by the UN and the actions it will take. The Commission welcomes the information provided by UNRWA as well as the launch of the investigation.
It depends on what linked even means. If they're related or have the same family name they are linked but it means very little because one family could have a thousand members or more.
That answers the decline of casualties question which actually increased after that disgusting NYT headline and it's still very high.
The number of dead is much higher than the official number.
I'm not sure I understand. Who are the baddies?
Or is it just complex?
Woah, woah, woah, how can you make a statement like that about such a complex issue without even condemning Hamas?The baddies are the US-UK-EU backed Zionists. Just for clarity.
Woah, woah, woah, how can you make a statement like that about such a complex issue without even condemning Hamas?
Just another day in Israel.
Wait until these Israelis find out the hostages also need food and water. The dumbest nation on earth.
Just another day in Israel.
Wait until these Israelis find out the hostages also need food and water. The dumbest nation on earth.
Just another day in Israel.
Wait until these Israelis find out the hostages also need food and water. The dumbest nation on earth.
Why is no one doing anything about this? I cannot believe all our governments are just going to allow that country and its people to do whatever the feck they want to do. Any other country there would be sanctions and shit, but not them! I'm so mad.This has been going on for close to a week now.
Yes and yes.Does anyone feel like defunding the UNRWA makes any country doing so actively taking part in genocidal acts? Is this not collective punishment?
