That's not what I meant. Journos can report what they want -- they just can't walk around outside of the protection of the military or broadcast locations, faces, etc. Things that would endanger the lives of those protecting them or the mission. Its a very basic requirement that everyone agrees to adhere to since using the military to report from within a war zone is a privilege not a right. Journos often add the caveat of something like "we were only allowed to film in certain areas and had to have our footage screened before broadcasting" as a heads up to audiences. Its a basic, common sense guideline that most journos are completely fine with given the alternative of not having any access to the battlefield.
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That's not what I meant. Journos can report what they want -- they just can't walk around outside of the protection of the military or broadcast locations, faces, etc. Things that would endanger the lives of those protecting them or the mission. Its a very basic requirement that everyone agrees to adhere to since using the military to report from within a war zone is a privilege not a right. Journos often add the caveat of something like "we were only allowed to film in certain areas and had to have our footage screened before broadcasting" as a heads up to audiences. Its a basic, common sense guideline that most journos are completely fine with given the alternative of not having any access to the battlefield.
Who would replace him ?
I know you didn’t mean what I said. I was referencing how “embedding” became a part of military operations and why. Its initial introduction had nothing to do with safety but control of narrative.
I see your point. There is no way to control what the journos say (this was the case in both Iraq and Afghanistan as well). They just couldn't report on locations and specific military details. I think the Israelis have taken it a bit further by making journos blur out faces as well.
Any sensible govt will employ similar. I don’t like the principle, just can’t dispute warring factions are not obligated to any other but themselves.
According to Lapid it would have to be someone in Likud, until elections can be held after the war. So presumably there would need to be a Likud leadership contest. I don’t know who the likely candidates would be. In recent years Gideon Sa’ar has been the most oft-touted successor, but he’s no longer with Likud and his profile may have taken a hit after a previous failed bid to oust Netanyahu.
It doesn't matter. Netanyahu isn't going anywhere.
Arab and Israeli posters, is this true?
So essentially Israel built a bunker underneath the hospital years ago, assumed that Hamas were using it as a command centre, bombed and shot a load of people, raided the hospital and found that Hamas were, in fact, not using it as a command centre?
Stop using logic!
Now I don't know if this is more appropriate here or in different thread, but I will bring it anyway. A bunch of masked people (what the hell are they hiding their faces for?) blocked a major traffic artery this morning.
Have those fairies learned nothing from the Freedumb Convoy in Ottawa before? Doing that is about the best way to get very little to no sympathy from ordinary people who are making a long way to earn a living. Considering what also happened in DC yesterday, it sounds to me that fake crisis actors on far-right/Russian payroll have entered the chat. They only bring division, fear and distraction rather than providing anything genuinely constructive.
Have those fairies learned nothing from the Freedumb Convoy in Ottawa before? Doing that is about the best way to get very little to no sympathy from ordinary people who are making a long way to earn a living. Considering what also happened in DC yesterday, it sounds to me that fake crisis actors on far-right/Russian payroll have entered the chat. They only bring division, fear and distraction rather than providing anything genuinely constructive.
I'm trying to understand who this person is. do you happen to know?
His face reminds me of the IDF spokesman Hagari, but they have different voices.
He was accused of embezzling money almost a decade ago. He also is not the leader of Hamas, he stepped down in 2017. He may be very rich and he may have embezzled money, but he's uninvolved now. The tweet is bullshit propaganda
As usual, when the propaganda ramps up, it means that more bad shit is underway.
Ah Jenin the famous Hamas hotbed.
I found this video interesting. I like this guys videos. He seems to do a lot of research on wars and geopolitics and they are well put together.
genuinely can't believe they're still using that hashtag. at this point it's even more absurd than "it was necessary to destroy the town in order to save it"
Yeah like his other videos, very well and meticulously explained.
Yeah, it's a bit of a mess.
This one is far more civilised and Owen Jones hits the nail on the head.
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Read somewhere that the death toll has been stuck at around 11k for a while (almost a week?) because the ground invasion has taken over the health minisitry. There were going at ~400/day before that, wonder how high they want to stretch that k/d
Jesus Christ, how did Owen Jones keep his cool for that long, I would have lost my mind talking to those cnuts.
Wow.
This is another one worth a watch.
These guys are definitely trying to minimise civilian casualties though, yes siree bob.
IDF is waging war against hospitals. Who will prevail?
Given the IDF are one of the least competent military forces going, I'd back the hospital.
Indeed. Mosab has so much to say.
IDF recovers body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from Gaza, days after announcing her death
By EMANUEL FABIAN and TOI STAFF
Cpl. Noa Marciano (IDF)
The IDF says it has recovered the body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from the Gaza Strip, three days after announcing she had been killed in Hamas captivity.
Marciano’s body was recovered yesterday by troops of the 7th Armored Brigade’s 603rd Battalion from a building adjacent to Shifa Hospital, following intelligence information provided by the Shin Bet security agency.
Her body was then brought to Israel for identification. Her funeral is slated for later today.
The finding came as troops continue to search for terror infrastructure in the hospital complex.
Marciano, 19, of the Combat Intelligence Collection Corps 414th unit, was serving at the Nahal Oz IDF base when it was overrun by terrorists during their murderous onslaught on southern Israel on October 7. She lived in Modiin and was the oldest of three siblings.
On Monday evening, Hamas published a propaganda video of Marciano, showing her speaking to the camera four days after being taken hostage, identifying herself and reciting the names of her parents and her hometown. The video then cut to showing her body.
Terror groups in Gaza are believed to be holding some 240 people hostage after it took them captive in southern Israel on October 7. Hamas has repeatedly made unsubstantiated claims that some hostages have been killed by Israeli airstrikes on Gaza.
Yesterday, the IDF also recovered the body of Yehudit Weiss, who was abducted by Hamas on October 7, also near Shifa.
By EMANUEL FABIAN and TOI STAFF
Cpl. Noa Marciano (IDF)
The IDF says it has recovered the body of Cpl. Noa Marciano from the Gaza Strip, three days after announcing she had been killed in Hamas captivity.
Marciano’s body was recovered yesterday by troops of the 7th Armored Brigade’s 603rd Battalion from a building adjacent to Shifa Hospital, following intelligence information provided by the Shin Bet security agency.
Her body was then brought to Israel for identification. Her funeral is slated for later today.
The finding came as troops continue to search for terror infrastructure in the hospital complex.
Marciano, 19, of the Combat Intelligence Collection Corps 414th unit, was serving at the Nahal Oz IDF base when it was overrun by terrorists during their murderous onslaught on southern Israel on October 7. She lived in Modiin and was the oldest of three siblings.
On Monday evening, Hamas published a propaganda video of Marciano, showing her speaking to the camera four days after being taken hostage, identifying herself and reciting the names of her parents and her hometown. The video then cut to showing her body.
Terror groups in Gaza are believed to be holding some 240 people hostage after it took them captive in southern Israel on October 7. Hamas has repeatedly made unsubstantiated claims that some hostages have been killed by Israeli airstrikes on Gaza.
Yesterday, the IDF also recovered the body of Yehudit Weiss, who was abducted by Hamas on October 7, also near Shifa.
But but but they're making sure there are few civilian casulties!!
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Hamas weapons found.
Some polling of Israeli opinion on the post-war plan. No consensus beyond agreement that continuing to “manage” the Palestinians is out:
“A majority of the Israeli public (52%) supports political measures at the end of the military campaign that entail a degree of recognition of independent Palestinian sovereignty. While 27% support a two-state agreement within the framework of the normalization process with the Arab world, 25% favor unilateral separation from the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. In contrast, 28% of the public (including a third of the Jewish public) supports Israeli annexation of Gaza and the West Bank. Only 5% support the pre-Oct. 7 policy of “managing” the conflict with Hamas and Hezbollah.”
There are several other questions posed. Of course it acknowledges that in the midst of war public opinion can shift rapidly and frequently.
Full results: https://mitvim.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Main20findings20English.pdf.pdf
“A majority of the Israeli public (52%) supports political measures at the end of the military campaign that entail a degree of recognition of independent Palestinian sovereignty. While 27% support a two-state agreement within the framework of the normalization process with the Arab world, 25% favor unilateral separation from the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank. In contrast, 28% of the public (including a third of the Jewish public) supports Israeli annexation of Gaza and the West Bank. Only 5% support the pre-Oct. 7 policy of “managing” the conflict with Hamas and Hezbollah.”
There are several other questions posed. Of course it acknowledges that in the midst of war public opinion can shift rapidly and frequently.
Full results: https://mitvim.org.il/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Main20findings20English.pdf.pdf
File under: clumsiness.