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[neverdie]

Beirut

Apparently 4,000 IDF soldiers dead in this campaign, which, if true, is an enormous figure for the IDF. Anyway, the entire thing is a disgrace. Peacedeal soon, I hope.

 

[FireballXL5]

Israel negotiating a 'cease fire' in good faith whilst bombing the feck out of Beirut. Absolute cnuts.

 

[Amir]

Apparently 4,000 IDF soldiers dead in this campaign, which, if true, is an enormous figure for the IDF. Anyway, the entire thing is a disgrace. Peacedeal soon, I hope.

IDF soldiers? A little over 800 have died, including hundreds on October 7.

Many others have suffered serious injuries, including losing limbs.

 

[Semper Fudge]

Israel negotiating a 'cease fire' in good faith whilst bombing the feck out of Beirut. Absolute cnuts.

Trying to get a good few "last" kicks in.

 

[neverdie]

IDF soldiers? A little over 800 have died, including hundreds on October 7.

Many others have suffered serious injuries, including losing limbs.

Fog of war then. You hear these numbers thrown around.

I think it could be the second line which I'm citing. Not the killed in action but wounded and killed taken together. Wasn't aware so many died on October 7th (I had it down as civilian for the most part). Represents biggest loss of IDF life other than Yom Kippur?

 

[Amir]

Fog of war then. You hear these numbers thrown around.

I think it could be the second line which I'm citing. Not the killed in action but wounded and killed taken together.

Possibly. Over 5,000 IDF soldiers have been wounded, but some of them were wounded twice so maybe the total figure is around 4,000, though probably over it.

 

[VorZakone]

 

[VorZakone]

 

[2mufc0]

hopefully Gaza can follow next they have suffered enough, although I’m not holding my breath as IOF are hellbent on distruction and cruelty there. Would be good if it can be done before trump gets into office so he can’t take any credit for it.

 

[Idxomer]

 

[That_Bloke]

The Lebanese would be well advised to not relax for one second.

Can't trust the word of these snakes.

 

[Giggsyking]

 

[Giggsyking]

I think the ceasefire is at risk of collapsing... Three Israeli airstrikes on Lebanon today.

 

[FireballXL5]

It never was a ceasefire, it was a PR stunt.

 

[Kaos]

I think the US/Israel understanding of a ceasefire is - we continue bombing your country, destroying infrastructure and killing scores of civilians, you don't fire back.

 

[Giggsyking]

I think the US/Israel understanding of a ceasefire is - we continue bombing your country, destroying infrastructure and killing scores of civilians, you don't fire back.

 

[Idxomer]

"If until now we have differentiated between Hezbollah and Lebanon"

They haven't.

 

[Redplane]

US President-elect Donald Trump has issued an apparent warning to Hamas, threatening "all hell to pay" if hostages held in Gaza are not released by the time he returns to the White House on 20 January.
Dozens of people taken during the 7 October 2023 Hamas attack remain unaccounted for. On Monday, the Israeli military said an Israeli-American soldier who it believed to be a captive had in fact been killed last October.

Without mentioning Hamas by name, Trump posted online the same day: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied history of the United States of America."

Israel's President Benjamin Netanyahu thanked Trump for his "strong statement".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62757dd55no

 

[Kaos]

US President-elect Donald Trump has issued an apparent warning to Hamas, threatening "all hell to pay" if hostages held in Gaza are not released by the time he returns to the White House on 20 January.
Dozens of people taken during the 7 October 2023 Hamas attack remain unaccounted for. On Monday, the Israeli military said an Israeli-American soldier who it believed to be a captive had in fact been killed last October.

Without mentioning Hamas by name, Trump posted online the same day: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied history of the United States of America."
Israel's President Benjamin Netanyahu thanked Trump for his "strong statement".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62757dd55no

I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread - what does that threat actually entail? Bombing Gaza is a meaningless threat since Biden has been doing it for over a year, the place is pretty much entirely unhabitable now. The orange loon's bark is hardly going to scare Hamas into submission since the status quo will be the same as far as they're concerned. Unless he intends to bomb Iran/Lebanon/Syria/Iraq, which would immediately unravel the façade of him being an 'anti-war' president.

 

[Idxomer]

I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread - what does that threat actually entail? Bombing Gaza is a meaningless threat since Biden has been doing it for over a year, the place is pretty much entirely unhabitable now. The orange loon's bark is hardly going to scare Hamas into submission since the status quo will be the same as far as they're concerned. Unless he intends to bomb Iran/Lebanon/Syria/Iraq, which would immediately unravel the façade of him being an 'anti-war' president.

The hopeful read is that a deal is approaching and Trump wants to take the credit for it and reinforce his image as this fierce leader everyone is scared of.

 

[2mufc0]

I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread - what does that threat actually entail? Bombing Gaza is a meaningless threat since Biden has been doing it for over a year, the place is pretty much entirely unhabitable now. The orange loon's bark is hardly going to scare Hamas into submission since the status quo will be the same as far as they're concerned. Unless he intends to bomb Iran/Lebanon/Syria/Iraq, which would immediately unravel the façade of him being an 'anti-war' president.

Plot twist will be when the orange idiot finds out that releasing the hostages is on the lower end of the priority list for Israel, there have been a number of deals on the table but all have been rejected.