The rewards from winning both competitions are exactly the same. Why is one considered more important than the other? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
Isn't the FA Cup the worthless cup???
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I think it's related to the tradition. FA Cup is the first football cup match in the world, if I haven't remembered wrong.
Originally posted by gfactor86:
<strong>The rewards from winning both competitions are exactly the same. Why is one considered more important than the other?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Er... no.
The FA cup has a huge place not only in the annlay of English football but more pertinently in the history of Utd. as a club. Some of our greatest perfomances have come in this competition and some of our toughest defeats.
Look back to the 1958 season for instance. The Busby babes having already romped the title lost the final v. villa after their golakeeper was so badly injured in a tackle which today yould never be allowed he had to leave the pitch. With no subs at that time Utd played with 10 men and an outfielder in goal and not surprisingly lost.
The first game that Utd. played the next season after the tragedy at Munich was in the FA cup (v. Sheff Wednesday I think). They won with a scratch team and went on to reach the final in one of the great all time feats of our or any other club. In the final (v. Bolton) history repeated itself - Nat Lofthouse clattered our keeper who went off and we lost - but the spirit of our great club had been reborn.
As for victories how about 1977 vs. the great Liverpool team of Emlyn Hughes, Tommy Smith and Tiny Tears. They had already clinched the championship and were playing in their first EC final on the next Wednesday - while we were a top 5 team with little real claim to be any better. We won a scrappy game 2-1 to win our ONLY TROPHY in the years between 1968-1983 and this win allowed us to become the first team to win the Trophy in 1999.
There are countless other great games - and every other top team in England has their own collection - yes even the scousers.
The Worthless cup by contrast was invented in 1960, was boycotted by top clubs until 1968 and has never been anything other than a nice addition to a clubs trophy list. Who knows who won it in 1976 or 1972 or 1985 for instance - while most true football fans of any club could easily recall the FA cup winners of these seasons (clue one of them was us!)
The FA is class - yes I'd rather see us win the PL or CL but a good cup run is trmendous fun and part of what makes English football special.
Originally posted by gfactor86:
<strong>The rewards from winning both competitions are exactly the same. Why is one considered more important than the other?
Not bitter ,but I have noticed a lot of you united fans putting down the F.A. cup as non important.Seems maybe international fans feeling that way - I don't know.
It has lost alot of its sparkle. That's got nothing to do with United fans in particular. Anyway, you'll find most United fans acknowledge the FA cup as the only decent trophy you won in the year of your plastic treble.
Originally posted by njred:
<strong>Not bitter ,but I have noticed a lot of you united fans putting down the F.A. cup as non important.Seems maybe international fans feeling that way - I don't know.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think its Roy Keane knocked it as pretty worthless.
You know how it is with some people, monkey see, monkey do
To be fair and unbiased, when Manchester United a few seasons ago considered the FA Cup not to be a priority (at least in the opinion of Roy Keane and there were others who shared his view), and when we won the League title there was a sense of undervaluing the FA Cup.
This annoyed me, and a few MU people are on record as saying that the Title and the European Cup are the priorities. Yet how their tune has changed now after a silverware-less season.
I love MU but my club is not above criticism and maybe last season when we won nothing was the kick up the arse that MU needed to stop being so bloody arrogant and get stuck into what it is about - winning everything in sight and even if that does not eventuate, at least genuinely trying to win everything in sight.
This annoyed me, and a few MU people are on record as saying that the Title and the European Cup are the priorities. Yet how their tune has changed now after a silverware-less season.
I love MU but my club is not above criticism and maybe last season when we won nothing was the kick up the arse that MU needed to stop being so bloody arrogant and get stuck into what it is about - winning everything in sight and even if that does not eventuate, at least genuinely trying to win everything in sight.
Synchronicity! I was just thinking about you, RUnited! I haven't posted for a while, having been on a holiday where I did not have easy access to the internet. Now I am at Hong Kong Airport using it for free.
Good to see you are still around and posting things that are constructive and make people think!
Good to see you are still around and posting things that are constructive and make people think!
We are all forgetting the 28 years of not winning the league, the FA Cup was the only thing we could look forward to. It was the trophy that launch AF run of success for Man Utd. It is the one trophy we won more than anyone else. Finally there is nothing like FA Cup day weather you are watching the build up on tv or going to the match
As an avid united fan in the eighties the FA Cup was all we had to cling on to and I love it. I believe the FA Cup has become devalued in recent seasons though. The FA experimented by moving the date of the third round a few years ago, the sponsorship deal with AXA, the final not being at Wembley, semi finals being played at Wembley etc. The biggest kick in the bollocks the Cup received though was when we decided not to defend it in 2000, surely the worst move we, as a club, have ever made.
Originally posted by gfactor86:
<strong>The rewards from winning both competitions are exactly the same. Why is one considered more important than the other?
My god, history, prestige, emotion, there's nothing like it, and United fans have it in their hearts. Were we the only PL club with a full house the other day?
Of course!