Is this the worst transfer window since 2013?

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I’m struggling to think of a window where we were so abject at incomings. The last one I can remember is the 2013 window where we signed Fellaini for above his release clause, and failed desperately with Baines and Fabregas.

Perhaps the summer in ‘09 when we lost Ronaldo and we signed Valencia, Owen and Obertan.
 
If / when Arnautovic is brought in then it will compound a truly horrendous window. A racist piece of shit who played for Stoke and is close to retirement. A real indication of where the club has fallen.
 
The summer of 2018 when we signed only Fred (£50m), Dalot (£15m) and Lee Grant (£1.5m) was pretty disastrous.
 
The Fred, Dalot, Lee Grant window was pretty fecking abysmal, too.

And the thing is... in hindsight, so were most of the others. Like 2019 - Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Dan James. Back then people were inexplicably delighted and called it superb business. Now James is gone, Wan Bissaka can't get in ahead of Dalot and is widely regarded as deadwood and the less said about our esteemed captain the better.

Or 2015. We were all fecking ecstatic. We were back in the Champions League and we went on a major spending spree in the summer. And how did that work out? Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Romero, Martial - there's an argument that effing Romero was the most successful signing out of that lot.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
The summer of 2018 when we signed only Fred (£50m), Dalot (£15m) and Lee Grant (£1.5m) was pretty disastrous.
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Indeed. Led to the Mourinho meltdown, which in turn brought us Solskjaer, three wasted years and the worst squad we've had in the Premier League era. Pretty bad window.

This one would rival it if we fail to strengthen further.
 
MikeUpNorth said:
The summer of 2018 when we signed only Fred (£50m), Dalot (£15m) and Lee Grant (£1.5m) was pretty disastrous.
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Good Lord! I'd say that the current window is better than this one already even though it's pretty dire.
 
We had probably one of the best transfer windows last summer. At least it seemed so on September 1st.
This one might be the worst if you consider how many pain points we have not addressed. Unfortunately at the same time we are out of Champions League so that makes transfer dealing a bit more difficult and I certainly don't expect any big names to end up at United.
 
It's easy to say so now with the De Jong debacle, Ronaldo disharmony, and loss to Brighton. BUT, and this is a big but, if we do get De Jong over the line, sign another cheap centre midfield option in Rabiot and sign someone to cover the front 3 (Cody Gakpo seems to be the latest option swirling around now), then it would be nowhere near our worst window ever.
 
The last good window we objectively had was 2016.

This current one is IMO worse than 2013. There was more time to plan for this window than then and it's been appalling.

The entire club sold the fans on change and we're resorting to yet another scattergun approach.

At this point, we have to hope ETH is a messiah-like manager, because the board/owners are fecking clueless.

Murtough should be fired or given 1 more window(next year) to rectify the shortcomings of this window. He has the makings of another disastrous appointment.
 
It is right up there. 2018 was a dire one too.

In fact, I was thinking yesterday when was the last time we really had a solid, satisfactory window that adressed all of our needs. Since 2006, the only I can remember is 2007. Even in Jose's first window, he wanted a right back and the club did not buy as far as I can remember.
 
I can't get my head around signing another centre back (for big money mind you) and another left back when there were obviously other parts of the team crying out for investment first. Add to that another No. 10 when we already have several players who can fill in there. Bizarre, ludicrous, negligent.
 
Haha... this thread shows the state of our club.

We cannot pick which window has been our worst out of 5 contenders.

2013: Fellaini
2015: Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Romero, Martial
2018: Fred, Dalot, Grant
2019: Maguire, Wan Bissaka, Dan James.
2022: Eriksen, Malacia, Martinez ( bear in mind this is after losing 8 first team players)
 
Transfer window what a joke,same as the last 10 years.Transfer deals should be done by the end of June.
Now we are running around for old has beens.The club is run by fools.Laughing stock of the premier league.
 
EricEricDjembaDjemba said:
It's easy to say so now with the De Jong debacle, Ronaldo disharmony, and loss to Brighton. BUT, and this is a big but, if we do get De Jong over the line, sign another cheap centre midfield option in Rabiot and sign someone to cover the front 3 (Cody Gakpo seems to be the latest option swirling around now), then it would be nowhere near our worst window ever.
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Rabiot has a below 80 percent passing accuracy. He’s basically McTomminay 2.0 so I don’t know why they would even consider him as a midfield option.

He will flop so I don’t know why Ten Hag doesn’t go for either a Tielemans type player or just throw Iqbal in who I believe is a finer footballer already than Rabiot.

If they want a CDM and want to appease the fans Declan Rice is there but obviously the Glazers don’t have any money because they are pretty broke for club owners so he just sits at West Ham.

There are so many good midfielders I really can’t understand why it’s so hard to get one in for 50m or so unless De Jong is definitely joining and the club knows this.
 
I think the 2019 window was even worse. Dan James - useless
AWB - even worse than Dan James
Maguire - atrocious value for money

Pereira, Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Martial, Rashford got contract extensions. Ole permanently signed. Looking back every single decision we made is hurting us now.
 
Rabiot, Arnautovic, Ismaila Sarr, Milinkovic-Savic, Morata?

It does seem like we have picked up a transfer target list from c. 2019 and are feverishly working our way through it this week. Bizarre.
 
It’s different now. Nobody wants to play for us anymore. Not least the players we already have. Maybe if we ask nicely Mason Greenwood would consider playing for us again but other than players approaching retirement that’s about it.
 
EricEricDjembaDjemba said:
It's easy to say so now with the De Jong debacle, Ronaldo disharmony, and loss to Brighton. BUT, and this is a big but, if we do get De Jong over the line, sign another cheap centre midfield option in Rabiot and sign someone to cover the front 3 (Cody Gakpo seems to be the latest option swirling around now), then it would be nowhere near our worst window ever.
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Give up hope full stop it's less painful
 
Our best window post Fergie is still the Pogba/Zlatan one. The worst was the Fred/Dalot one, followed by Maguire/AWB.

Last one was mediocre.
 
el3mel said:
Our best window post Fergie is still the Pogba/Zlatan one. The worst was the Fred/Dalot one, followed by Maguire/AWB.

Last one was mediocre.
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Last window was all about Erik getting players he knows and trusts to build a team spirit,fully expecting him to focus on ST,CM & GK next summer and won't be all dutch/Ajax connected
 
I think the execution was severely lacking, but when all is said and done, I can't remember the last time we had a better window than this.
 
Agree completely - it would‘ve been a decent window if we’d stopped at Malacia, Eriksen and Martinez, just look at the huge difference on the pitch those three alone have made. But to then add a backup for De Gea, Casemiro and Antony, the former being one of - if not the - best DM of a generation, and the latter being one of the most promising young South Americans out there at this time, and it’s easily the best window we’ve had post-Fergie, especially considering it looked like we were getting Rabiot and Arnautovic at one point.

The only downsides were not getting a striker and not shifting Ronnie, but those can be rectified in January hopefully.

Remember the geese said:
I think the execution was severely lacking, but when all is said and done, I can't remember the last time we had a better window than this.
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KanieKaned said:
Pogba. Many lolz!
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I know right?

Even with the benefit of hindsight, he still considers that a great window? It played right up to Woodward's Galacticos (kit sellers) strategy to appease the fans. And especially when you got a freebie in Eriksen who has done what £89million Pogba was supposed to do.
It goes to show --- that judging a window is not about how much we paid for who but really who we got that fits the system to make everyone else/team, better.
 
Gopher Brown said:
I can't get my head around signing another centre back (for big money mind you) and another left back when there were obviously other parts of the team crying out for investment first. Add to that another No. 10 when we already have several players who can fill in there. Bizarre, ludicrous, negligent.
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Same opinion now lad?
 
Remember the geese said:
I think the execution was severely lacking, but when all is said and done, I can't remember the last time we had a better window than this.
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You’re completely spot on. Shocking execution but ultimately superb signings. Martinez, Eriksen and Malacia have all been revelations. Think Casemiro will become more important as the season goes on, and I have high hopes for Antony.
 
It was a good window in terms of personnel coming in but some players that are deadwood so to say needed to get cut. But yeah, the way we went about our business was shit. Needed to get the players in early to have them learn Hag ball in pre-season.
 
An absolutely brilliant window, the boss wanted so desperately to wait for FDJ which I can understand and fair play to the club for backing him on it.
Once it became clear FDJ wasn’t happening and the manager accepted that, we moved swiftly and backed the manager to the hilt.
The first three signings especially look absolutely incredible, and considering the later deals are one of the World’s best DMs and Antony, it looks very exciting.

Some will moan that we didn’t sack off the FDJ deal earlier, but that one was clearly on the manager, so rather than act like this prick at Chelsea I’m glad the club trusted the manager on it but were prepared to swiftly switch focus when required.
 
Gopher Brown said:
No.

But it was true at the time I wrote that and we started the season without all our signings in place which indicates some incompetence on the part of the club
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The thread's aged like milk.

A cautionary tale about knee jerking in the transfer window.
 
I think it was a pretty good window and the most pressing issues were addressed. Replacing Telles and giving Shaw a real good competition. So good, he can't smell the pitch.
Bringing a left footed right winger, one of the most promising ones. Add on top of that the manager knows him pretty well.
Adding Martinez - a totally different breed of a CB that compliments Varane. We've gone from Barry and Victor to Varane and Martinez in the space of two summer windows. Our CB partnership looks miles better than it was.
And then adding two midfielders. Eriksen has transitioned into deep lying playmaker and we all can see he's quality. I suspect people could moan about our chase of FDJ and compare it to Moyes' chase of Kroos. The difference here is 3 weeks before the window closed we moved on, went after the alternative and had it wrapped up in a week time.

I'd assume ST, GK and RB are also areas ETH would like to address, but given the players we have currently in those positions (citing Ronaldo and De Gea), that was way down on the priority list. To add, Dalot is a player with a lot of potential, and AWB is also a young kid that could probably transform if coached the right way, although that remains to be seen.

I'm pretty happy with this window. Would've been happier had FDJ joined, but the lad (and his girl/wife) were quite clear they wanted to stay in Barcelona, so I think we got the best we could get.
 
Eriksen, Martinez and Malacia have all been very good and are proving to be important signings.

I think we needed a different profile to Casemiro and maybe Antony too but it's still early to judge.
 
Based on what we've seen so far I'd rank them thus:

1. Eriksen - makes our whole team tick
2. Martinez - exactly what we need at the back, he's got fire in his belly but he's not reckless like Rojo and Bailly. He is assured, calm, and brilliant at passing forward. Could end up being number 1 by the end of the season dependent on how consistent he and Eriksen are
3. Malacia - strong start although I'm worried like many of our fullback signings over recent years he's just not quite the level required, he gives 100% and clearly has some strong qualities but has shown himself prone to making silly mistakes. I remember quite clearly us all being excited over the likes of Darmian and Telles after a couple of games.
4. Casemiro - he will come good, but does he fit the system?
5. Antony - not been impressed at all so far, seems a bit of a show pony and bar his goal and a couple of nice passes not really offered much of an attacking threat, but as with Casemiro it's fairly early days.

I think by the end of the season Antony will have climbed to 3, and Malacia will drop - serving as a very strong back up to make Shaw perform better (which clearly he needs).
 
The way we conducted our business during the window was still laughable despite us having signed at least a couple of quality players
 
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