Is the FA Cup final one of our most important games ever?

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Let’s face it - Madrid are likely not coming back. Anything can happen in the final but Inter are heavy underdogs. And the league is as good as done.

It’s just an FA Cup, but it looks like we are the only team now that can protect our greatest achievement and Fergie’s treble.

Just how important is this game?

I know I’m probably being overly dramatic and we’ve had heaps of important games but surely this has to rank pretty high.

We will learn a lot about the passion some of our players have for this club and shirt, that’s for sure.
 
I hope we can stop them this time, but with how broken English football appears to be, it's still only a matter of time till they win the treble.
 
If Madrid can't beat them over 2 ties then we're literally just there to collect the losers medals. Whether it's important in stopping their treble doesn't really effect what the outcome will be. There's a better chance of some financial irregularity being discovered and the titles being stripped in 10 years time.
 
It is hugely important.

Saying that, how great a treble is it when it’s completely inevitable…? I haven’t even looked at the score in the Madrid game and knew City would be going through.

City’s financial doping has meant that in an anomalous season with a fecking World Cup shoved in the middle of it, with every other team utterly exhausted, they’re still fresh as daisies. This is a huge factor that’s being massively underplayed.

Sport should be competitive, and truly great sporting achievements involve some degree of overcoming and struggle.

Something like a treble should have some degree of uncertainty and excitement to it - no great achievement is ever easy… so why is this the case here?

In the CL final they’ll be up against Darmian, Mkhitarian, Dzeko and Lukaku ffs :lol:

Cmon, it should be a treble with an asterisk next to it.

In the FA cup they’re up against a Utd side with no CF that are utterly knackered, while they’ll put out a fresh team every game.

It means very little, and any fan who’s truly neutral knows it.
 
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No, it's unbelievably small time to consider a chance to dent a rival an accolade one of our most important games ever. We're a club that's played in multiple champions league finals, and been involved in lots of title races, denying City an fa Cup to complete a treble doesn't rank even close to those. I really can't wait til we get new owners and hopefully start competing again and get rid of this Everton like mentality that denying our rivals should be our aspiration most seasons
 
What? Not even close. It would be incredibly small time to elevate this game just because it's a chance to spoil a rival's season.

Also, "protecting our greatest achievement" - our achievement is not going anywhere. They aren't taking the CL trophy away retroactively.
 
You’re being over-dramatic.

They can have a treble-sized asterisk next to their treble they will inevitably finish with because they are a bunch of cheating fecks.

They already have an asterisk against everything won since 2008 and it will continue for me until they stop cheating.

feck ‘em. Nobody remembers the team that does something second
 
The usual "it doesn't count because cheats, money" etc. doesn't change the fact that barely anyone cares about that- they didn't when Chelsea did it years ago and they don't now; it's a coping mechanism and it's not a very good one.

I just hope our players realise how important it is though. I thought Maguire's comments before the Liverpool game last year and the performance that followed were unforgivable with Liverpool chasing that quad achievement. When Liverpool played us in 99 (without their two best players btw) they fought us tooth and nail to stop us getting that treble. We have to do something similar.
 
It's important as we might win a trophy and stop city from doing the treble but there's no chance we will stop them.Actually worried about how many goals we will lose by. City are a couple of tiers above united at the moment. We cannot pass and keep the ball under the best circumstances. Then if it's against city, we usually and inevitably will bottle the game. Big score line on the cards.

Liverpool picking up top 4 at our expense and city winning the treble. Welcome to hell.
 
Siorac said:
What? Not even close. It would be incredibly small time to elevate this game just because it's a chance to spoil a rival's season.

Also, "protecting our greatest achievement" - our achievement is not going anywhere. They aren't taking the CL trophy away retroactively.
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This, 100%
 
Is the rich kid who goes on an Everest climbing expedition with all the best gear and a team of sherpas the same as Edmund Hillary's achievement? Oh, and the kid used a helicopter.
 
It it was Liverpool I would be prepared to go into hibernation and depression for months. City though, so what, it should be painful, but it means very little. Wouldn't even argue against the idea that they are a better team than 99, but it doesn't matter, Utd felt like an achievement, this is a box ticked.
 
Siorac said:
What? Not even close. It would be incredibly small time to elevate this game just because it's a chance to spoil a rival's season.

Also, "protecting our greatest achievement" - our achievement is not going anywhere. They aren't taking the CL trophy away retroactively.
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I’m not sold on the “it’s small time” argument but the second para makes a very valid point.
 
Our next 3 games to ensure we finish in the top 4 are more important than that game
 
Definitely.

An FA Cup final is always an important game in the clubs history.
A derby FA Cup final vs City? That makes it even more important.
An FA Cup final vs City with the added incentive of stopping a potential treble? My God
 
rpitroda said:
I’m not sold on the “it’s small time” argument but the second para makes a very valid point.
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Yep. Rivalries are part of football and stopping your local rivals from achieving something should add more to a game.
 
Need to finish top 4 before making this the pinnacle of our season. It’s a nothing game if we don’t keep our progress on track with a CL finish.

City need to be stopped in the long term. With unlimited cash that they have, only way they are stopped is by putting together a great team again
 
It’s simply up to us to put in a performance of a life time, it’s Wembley! Neutral ground. Go show them we can beat them and show them next season they have a real fight on there hands unlike Arsenal and remind them Manchester is and always will be red
 
No. Our development process is important. The season is a success for EtH so long as top 4 is secured as we also won a cup. Past that, would be nice, but being real we aren't on their level yet. That's where we want to get to. Massive underdogs.
 
I would say yes it’s bloody important. At the moment we have a unique place in history as the only winners of the proper Treble. It’s best avoided that City equal that. Also, if we win we get a cup double, which is a step up from a booby prize for sure. Trophies breed trophies - it will give us a real leg up to bag another FA Cup and spoil City’s party while we’re at it. Nothing “small time” about stiffing your rivals whatever the occasion, it’s probably the best thing about football.
 
Utter cheats, deplorable club. Guessing most the titles and cups will be annulled.
 
How on earth do we beat them playing like that?
 
There is no shame in losing to this City side. I just won't be able to handle a potential trashing.
 
bosnian_red said:
No. Our development process is important. The season is a success for EtH so long as top 4 is secured as we also won a cup. Past that, would be nice, but being real we aren't on their level yet. That's where we want to get to. Massive underdogs.
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All very true but not really the point of the thread.
 
sullydnl said:
Yep. Rivalries are part of football and stopping your local rivals from achieving something should add more to a game.
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It doesn't make it one of our most important games EVER though. As others said, this club competed in European Cup/Champions League finals and numerous title deciders.
 
sincher said:
How on earth do we beat them playing like that?
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Difficult. The hope is that they don’t play like that. Many games have been won by the underdogs. It’s usually not pretty but will anyone care about that if we sneak a ragged 1-0? A 4-0 defeat is probably more likely but let’s not sign up for that before we even start.
 
I hope we go at them at the very least, none of them would want to be injured for their big game. Might work in our favour.
 
Siorac said:
It doesn't make it one of our most important games EVER though. As others said, this club competed in European Cup/Champions League finals and numerous title deciders.
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Yes and so the argument of “our most important games are those where we achieve something rather than those where we stop someone else” is one I can understand. But holding the latter as something also very important doesn’t make it “small time” thinking. That’s my view anyway.
 
Livewire1974 said:
Can we rename this place as BlueCafe ?

It's almost all Shitty threads.
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It's odd to make this post in this thread of all threads - it's about the FA Cup final and the last I checked United are one of the finalists.
 
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