Is the 23/24 Premier League the most competitive it's ever been?

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In Premier League era, is this the highest quality, most competitive league season that there's ever been?

There's eight teams (I include Aston Villa in this) that could realistically hope to play Champions League football next season and maybe another three that think that they could potentially get Europa?

I can't ever remember a time where so many clubs had such good quality players/managers.

It reminds me a little bit of Serie A in the mid to late 90's where some of the bigger names were struggling because some of the historically smaller clubs had really great teams.
 
As a neutral, this is the most fun season I can remember
 
I feel like this gets made every year but it will keep getting more competitive as there will continue to be more money flowing through the PL and more than any other league in the world. If PL clubs aren't dominating European competitions in the next 5 or so years it would be a failure.
 
We're not even halfway yet, but there are certainly a higher number of difficult fixtures than in previous seasons which logically and hopefully should lead to it being tighter at the top
 
More results that reflect this.

Other than the newly promoted teams I'd say every other club in the league is capable of taking points off anyone.

I think the final Premier League table will look much more like an early to mid 90s table.
 
Is 24/25 shaping up to being even more so?

West Ham look like they mean business again on the transfer front, aswell as Villa in terms of their top 4 hunt.

Even getting into the top 10 now is getting harder and harder for teams!
 
SilentWitness said:
Is 24/25 shaping up to being even more so?

West Ham look like they mean business again on the transfer front, aswell as Villa in terms of their top 4 hunt.

Even getting into the top 10 now is getting harder and harder for teams!
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The depth of quality is better than it has ever been. Assuming Villa and Newcastle's owners remain committed to their projects, the "big six" is really turning into a big eight as far as clubs with very large financial resources and big ambitions. And then you have West Ham in a category sort of their own, richer than anybody else but not really in that top eight echelon either. Plus well run clubs like Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, and Palace and then decently resourced (but perhaps not as well run) clubs like Everton, Forest, Fulham, and Wolves.

I think its tougher than ever for clubs outside that top 8-9 to break into Europe and also for clubs coming up from the Championship to stay up.
 
It'll be the same as last year - City will win almost every single game from February onwards and the slimy little cheat Guardiola will be grinning smugly at the end of the season celebrating 5 in a row.

It's not going to be competitive again until City are dealt with properly.
 
DixieDean said:
Bit boring when the same side wins every year, though.
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Nah, I quite like it when there's one big bad team at the top waiting to be toppled. If anyone can win it then it's all a bit meh
 
Is that the general consensus, that last season was the highest in quality? I thought it was a pretty poor Prem to be honest. City not at their absolute best, Arsenal probably the best they've been since they had a great team, Liverpool nothing special, Chelsea and United extremely poor, Newcastle worse than the previous season, Villa punching above their weight but still nothing to write home about, and Palace with a good second half of the season (maybe Brighton with a good first half of the season).

All in all a pretty boring and unspectacular season.

edit: and Spurs being OK, after the media love-fest, which was the same with Liverpool too in and around the League Cup win.
 
This is a weird thread as I thought last season was fecking dull and one of the worst PL seasons I can remember (evidenced by how hopelessly out of sorts every english team looked in Europe), while also being blighted by incredibly crap officiating and the PL dishing out points deductions while ignoring the team in 1st place committing far more serious offences.

It was a big mess and really not that competitive apart from Arsenal giving a good account of themselves.

Can't see this season being a huge improvement outside of maybe Liverpool, who might also get worse instead.
 
Bastian said:
Is that the general consensus, that last season was the highest in quality? I thought it was a pretty poor Prem to be honest. City not at their absolute best, Arsenal probably the best they've been since they had a great team, Liverpool nothing special, Chelsea and United extremely poor, Newcastle worse than the previous season, Villa punching above their weight but still nothing to write home about, and Palace with a good second half of the season (maybe Brighton with a good first half of the season).

All in all a pretty boring and unspectacular season.

edit: and Spurs being OK, after the media love-fest, which was the same with Liverpool too in and around the League Cup win.
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....and on top of all that, the relegation battle was dull as dishwater. There was never a time that Sheffield United and Burnley looked anything other than doomed. Luton were brilliant for two thirds of the season but ran out of steam. The bottom three were in place pretty much all season long, the only excitement coming from wondering if other teams might get enough points deductions to get them relegated instead :lol:
 
noodlehair said:
This is a weird thread as I thought last season was fecking dull and one of the worst PL seasons I can remember (evidenced by how hopelessly out of sorts every english team looked in Europe), while also being blighted by incredibly crap officiating and the PL dishing out points deductions while ignoring the team in 1st place committing far more serious offences.

It was a big mess and really not that competitive apart from Arsenal giving a good account of themselves.

Can't see this season being a huge improvement outside of maybe Liverpool, who might also get worse instead.
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This 100%.

This current era of the Premier League is the worst it's ever been. Any club has to play an almost perfect season to have any hope of competing with this joke of a club who blatantly ignore the rules and yet are allowed to keep competing.

Made worse for United fans by the emergence of Liverpool as a genuine title contender, plus the nauseating "rivalry" between Guardiola and Klopp.

Thank God one of those problems has finally fecked off. Just waiting for Lord Guardiola and the cheats to get dealt with next.
 
DarkLord1984 said:
This 100%.

This current era of the Premier League is the worst it's ever been. Any club has to play an almost perfect season to have any hope of competing with this joke of a club who blatantly ignore the rules and yet are allowed to keep competing.

Made worse for United fans by the emergence of Liverpool as a genuine title contender, plus the nauseating "rivalry" between Guardiola and Klopp.

Thank God one of those problems has finally fecked off. Just waiting for Lord Guardiola and the cheats to get dealt with next.
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See Liverpool make it more interesting for me because I genuinely don't like them, so i become invested if they do well into hoping they don't win.

City just bore me because they're so artificial. I don't care if they win and it is also obvious they will. It's not really an achievement since anything less than them cleaning house is a failure in the context of the advantage they have over every other team. So there is just nothing to take from it at all. It's like trying to get excited about the 100m final if one of the competitors is a robot that's been programmed to run faster than everyone else. It's not competitive at all it juat makes it a waste of everyone's time.

I don't think it will change until the PL take action on the charges and it opens the door for actual competition. When was the last PL season where it was actually wide open as to who might win it? Nearly 10 years ago? Maybe the year after Leicester?
 
This season will be harder too. Chelsea surely better than before, Liverpool a bit uncertain but can't be worse than 6th. United I feel with a proven striker alone can vastly improve and probably need 2 big signings in the right age group. Villa look about the same, which was excellent as it was. Spurs I am totally ignorant on what they've done in the summer?

City for me look weaker(?). KDB another year older.

For us we look better, though I am concerned at no Timber in any training sessions recently.
 
Gap to City might narrow. KDB and Bernardo Silva and Walker a year older. As good as Rodri is, I don’t think they’ll be as strong in midfield next year.
 
Bastian said:
Is that the general consensus, that last season was the highest in quality? I thought it was a pretty poor Prem to be honest. City not at their absolute best, Arsenal probably the best they've been since they had a great team, Liverpool nothing special, Chelsea and United extremely poor, Newcastle worse than the previous season, Villa punching above their weight but still nothing to write home about, and Palace with a good second half of the season (maybe Brighton with a good first half of the season).

All in all a pretty boring and unspectacular season.

edit: and Spurs being OK, after the media love-fest, which was the same with Liverpool too in and around the League Cup win.
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It's not. It was a pretty boring season and the quality at the moment isn't particularly high in the PL.
 
Last season was poor quality I thought.
 
I think for me the competitiveness has gone up in terms of that mid-zone between the last CL spot and the spot just above the relegation battle. Roughly 4th to 15th in the table, the teams are much closer than they have been 2-3 years ago I think.
 
SilentWitness said:
I think for me the competitiveness has gone up in terms of that mid-zone between the last CL spot and the spot just above the relegation battle. Roughly 4th to 15th in the table, the teams are much closer than they have been 2-3 years ago I think.
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Yeah, this is where the league's competitiveness has gone way way up, especially in comparison to 10-15 years ago.

Its really just a simple function of the financial landscape. 14 of the 30 highest grossing clubs in the world by football revenue are English right now. Midtable clubs like Brighton, Fulham, West Ham, and Palace are above or on par with traditional European "second tier" big clubs like Lyon, Napoli, Sevilla, and Benfica on a revenue basis.
 
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