Is Maguire the worst football transfer of all time?

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Mods please add the following options in the poll: yes, absolutely, no doubt.

Now in all seriousness I was discussing this with a friend of mine who's a Madrid fan. He said the worst transfer is Hazard, who cost Madrid 100M+40M in variables (most of them where surprisingly reached since Madrid won the league and UCL). I said Maguire is worse. Because to judge a transfer you cant do it only on the cost but also the performances. Hazard hasn't affected Madrid as he barely plays at all, yes they spent a lot on him but on the pitch it hasn't really affect them. On the other hand Maguire cost 87M, was made captain, a laughing stock has cost us god knows how many games with his stupid errors and his captain status has permeated a losing mentality in the whole squad. Nobody laughs at Hazard, they dont give a feck but Maguire has become a meme worldwide the captain of Manchester United is a buffoon thats surely more damaging than some millions.

So Hazard to Madrid is a worse transfer than Maguire? or can you think of another one worse?
 
Hazard and Coutinho are worse.

The Coutinho deal pretty much allowed Liverpool to beat Barcelona in their tie and secure the CL.
 
At least Hazard and Coutinho were world class players to the point where you could see why clubs were willing to spend so much on them, even if the prices were excessive and they never worked out. Never in a million years was Harry Maguire ever an 80million pound player, never ever ever.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
Hazard and Coutinho are worse.

The Coutinho deal pretty much allowed Liverpool to beat Barcelona in their tie and secure the CL.
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Hazard and Coutinho only affect Madrid and Barca financially. They didnt allowed them to affect them on the pitch. I dont think any big transfer has been allowed to play so many minutes after being so bad like Maguire.
 
Maguire… because look how long he was allowed to be rubbish and get away with it while getting protected by the pundits and media. Even today I’ve just seen that Danny Murphy was saying “Harry Maguire is solid and dependable” When you think these very people last year were writing Varane off as the rubbish one and saying a new CB was needed to partner Maguire.

At least with Hazard there’s injury as a factor and RM moved away from playing him pretty quickly. I imagine the same applies to Coutinho. I don’t think Barca had him as a starter for so many games.
 
Maguire and Sancho are both horrific transfers, Hard decision but Harry edges it.
 
L1nk said:
At least Hazard and Coutinho were world class players to the point where you could see why clubs were willing to spend so much on them, even if the prices were excessive and they never worked out. Never in a million years was Harry Maguire ever an 80million pound player, never ever ever.
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Didnt even had the potential is a really strange transfer. He was 26 at the time, wasnt even a top 10 defender, wasnt a youngster with huge potential like De Ligt or Fofana. No one would had paid even 50M for him, the more the years go by the crazier it looks to have him as the world record for a defender.
 
L1nk said:
At least Hazard and Coutinho were world class players to the point where you could see why clubs were willing to spend so much on them, even if the prices were excessive and they never worked out. Never in a million years was Harry Maguire ever an 80million pound player, never ever ever.
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That’s a good point. I remember at the time hearing on a podcast or news channel that clubs in Europe were laughing at United for paying £85m for him.
 
In terms of value for money in no order.

Hazard
Coutinho
Lukaku (Chelsea)
Maguire
Felix
Pogba
Lukaku (Utd)
Di Maria

I'd say pound for pound when you consider the whole package, performances, ridicule etc. Nobody really cares that Hazard became an inured pie eater at Real, he's kind of been shunted away from the limelight.

Whereas Harry was brought in, made club captain, been arrested, still captain, makes some of the weirdest feckups you can think of, still captain, played a bit shite, gave these weird interviews where he claims he's played well,
has no self awareness off the pitch, very little awareness on it, and is still captain.

I'd say Maguire, simply because of the whole package.
 
PSG paid +200m for Neymar just to keep on winning the domestic trophies they were already dominating without him, and kept on sucking in CL.
 
el3mel said:
PSG paid +200m for Neymar just to keep on winning the domestic trophies they were already dominating without him, and kept on sucking in CL.
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I'd say Neymar's transfer isnt a succesfull one because of the priced paid and obviously the goal of winning UCL wasnt achieved. But he's not a shit transfer, at least not as the otherones mentioned in the thread.

By that bar Mbappe and basically every PSG transfer has been a total failure as well.
 
Lukaku to Chelsea after he already flopped at United is the easiest biggest flop ever. Nobody comes close.
 
Jokes aside, Maguire probably made us better in the system Ole played, for a season or so, even if we paid ridiculous amount for him. He should 100% been sold last summer though.
 
SAFMUTD said:
Hazard and Coutinho only affect Madrid and Barca financially. They didnt allowed them to affect them on the pitch. I dont think any big transfer has been allowed to play so many minutes after being so bad like Maguire.
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I literally pointed out how it affected Barcelona on the pitch.
 
SAFMUTD said:
I'd say Neymar's transfer isnt a succesfull one because of the priced paid and obviously the goal of winning UCL wasnt achieved. But he's not a shit transfer, at least not as the otherones mentioned in the thread.

By that bar Mbappe and basically every PSG transfer has been a total failure as well.
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Neymar hurts more, because of it being +200m, a ridiculous price that even after the market inflation (which happens thanks to this transfer, actually), no club has managed anything close to that.
 
L1nk said:
At least Hazard and Coutinho were world class players to the point where you could see why clubs were willing to spend so much on them, even if the prices were excessive and they never worked out. Never in a million years was Harry Maguire ever an 80million pound player, never ever ever.
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When was Coutinho ever a 140 million pound player???!

He was absurdly overrated.

If he was world class, then the word has lost all meaning.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
I literally pointed out how it affected Barcelona on the pitch.
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By helping Liverpool win the UCL? that doesnt have anything to do with Barcelona besides that tie. Not enough comparing to what Maguire has done here.
 
Yes I’d say so. Not just for what he’s done here and all of those factors, but for the sheer fact that EVERYONE thought it was a stupid deal right when we made it. At least the other players mentioned generally were bought at times when everyone considered them world class or close to it. Maguire at Leicester was thought of as “solid but limited” and had hardly had a real standout season and then we went and paid a world record fee for that.

That puts it over the edge, as with the other terrible deals you could at least understand the thought process a bit
 
el3mel said:
Neymar hurts more, because of it being +200m, a ridiculous price that even after the market inflation (which happens thanks to this transfer, actually), no club has managed anything close to that.
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It's a ridiculous price but if given the chance I would pay 200M for Neymar instead of 87M for Maguire any god damn day, I think every single person would agree with me.
 
SAFMUTD said:
It's a ridiculous price but if given the chance I would pay 200M for Neymar instead of 87M for Maguire any god damn day, I think every single person would agree with me.
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That's fine. I agree. That transfer just jumped into my mind when I saw this thread.
 
SAFMUTD said:
By helping Liverpool win the UCL? that doesnt have anything to do with Barcelona besides that tie. Not enough comparing to what Maguire has done here.
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It has everything to do with Barcelona when that same player was absolutely awful for them in both legs and awful that entire season(which led to them loaning him out to Bayern next season and then he scores twice vs them in the 8-2 drubbing).

He is a much worse transfer.
 
Valencia Shin Crosses said:
Yes I’d say so. Not just for what he’s done here and all of those factors, but for the sheer fact that EVERYONE thought it was a stupid deal right when we made it. At least the other players mentioned generally were bought at times when everyone considered them world class or close to it. Maguire at Leicester was thought of as “solid but limited” and had hardly had a real standout season and then we went and paid a world record fee for that.

That puts it over the edge, as with the other terrible deals you could at least understand the thought process a bit
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Exactly, all the other players where either worldclass or potentially worldclass. Maguire came out of the blue he wasnt even wanted by top clubs, if I didnt knew better I'd said its some sort of fraud scheme to move money or something it just doesnt make sense.
 
Yes.

Hazard? Continho? At least they played some part and won major trophies with their clubs.
 
You can forgive the Hazard and Coutinho ones because they were world class players who you'd have backed to succeed. They just seemingly gave up and wasted their prime years.

Maguire was just baffling all round. An ordinary defender at best who's track record consisted largely of getting relegated numerous times with his clubs, and scoring a few goals for England. So we spunk £80million on him and immediately hand him the captaincy :wenger:
 
Kaos said:
You can forgive the Hazard and Coutinho ones because they were world class players who you'd have backed to succeed. They just seemingly gave up and wasted their prime years.

Maguire was just baffling all round. An ordinary defender at best who's track record consisted largely of getting relegated numerous times with his clubs, and scoring a few goals for England. So we spunk £80million on him and immediately hand him the captaincy :wenger:
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When was Coutinho ever world class?
 
The Hazard and Lukaku (Chelsea) deals are certainly worse for the fee compared to appearances.

I think the poll should be for United's worst transfer of all time, which Maguire would be a strong favourite for.
 
van Nistelrooy said:
The Hazard and Lukaku (Chelsea) deals are certainly worse for the fee compared to appearances.

I think the poll should be for United's worst transfer of all time, which Maguire would be a strong favourite for.
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I dont think there's anyone that comes close to Maguire if were talking only United transfers. Thats without discussion I'd say.
 
What I don't get is why is Maguire still playing with different coaches? Wouldn't it be better to use a youngster if there is no good player in the squad?
 
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