Irish Politics

I went.



1: Tania Doyle, left wing independent who's done wonders in the local area



2: Ruth Coppinger, she's a bit of a melt but is the most viable socialist voice in Dublin West



3: Labour



4: Soc Dems



5: Green Party, I was hesitant, but Roderic isn't as bad as people say.



6: Natalie Tracey, ex Sinn Fein cllr who has gone independent.



7, 8: Sinn Fein, literally just to keep the far right out.



No preference for FF, FG, Aontu, Nazi pricks, and racist independents.
 
Brophs said:
It’s a lightning rod for the disaffected. You can disassociate yourself and your family and friends from all of your issues, as you perceive them. It’ll be something else in a couple of years.
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I assume the anti-woke, anti-trans shite has made it to Ireland? I bet you (?) already had your own anti-CRT/DEI phase as well.

There's always something new.
 
nimic said:
I assume the anti-woke, anti-trans shite has made it to Ireland? I bet you (?) already had your own anti-CRT/DEI phase as well.

There's always something new.
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Not really.
Or not that im aware of at least. They've stuck to immigration mostly to date. Other stuff is around im sure but not mainstream in anyway, doubt any of them subjects have come up over the election campaign.
 
nimic said:
I assume the anti-woke, anti-trans shite has made it to Ireland? I bet you (?) already had your own anti-CRT/DEI phase as well.

There's always something new.
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Yeah, we even had an exchange in the Dáil where one TD, challenged on what he said about carbon taxes, told the other TD “sure what do you know, you don’t even know if your baby is a boy or a girl”.

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Charlie Foley said:
Yeah, we even had an exchange in the Dáil where one TD, challenged on what he said about carbon taxes, told the other TD “sure what do you know, you don’t even know if your baby is a boy or a girl”.

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When all is said and done, we really are a profoundly stupid country.
 
I guess im wrong. I probably disregard the Healey Rae's before they start talking which feels sensible to be fair.
 
nimic said:
I assume the anti-woke, anti-trans shite has made it to Ireland? I bet you (?) already had your own anti-CRT/DEI phase as well.

There's always something new.
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Plenty of anti-trans, homophobic, women hating morons around at the minute. I actually die a little inside when someone unironically uses the term woke and it's happening more and more. People I'm friendly with and didn't give the slightest shit about any of these issues pre COVID are absolutely frothing at the mouth about it now.
 
caid said:
I guess im wrong. I probably disregard the Healey Rae's before they start talking which feels sensible to be fair.
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The Healy Rae's are a special type of vermin, probably not a bad idea to tune out when they're talking.
 
caid said:
Not really.
Or not that im aware of at least. They've stuck to immigration mostly to date. Other stuff is around im sure but not mainstream in anyway, doubt any of them subjects have come up over the election campaign.
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the lad in Sligo for IFP (who rather hilariously works in my local Aldi, and probably not for much longer if everyone else got the same leaflet I did) has 'anti-trans bla bla' as one of his top things anyway.
 
nimic said:
I assume the anti-woke, anti-trans shite has made it to Ireland? I bet you (?) already had your own anti-CRT/DEI phase as well.

There's always something new.
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To a certain extent, but thankfully (thank god for small mercies) our two biggest parties for the MOST part, are just plain old neo liberal arseholes, and not that reactionary.

In some working class areas some fringe movements have made limited headway in local councils, but have yet to do anything nationally, hopefully it stays that way.

Immigration has been the flagship issue for the far right, because it hasn't been handled as best as it could, and a lot of people to the left of the government seem to be reluctant to speak about it, allowing racists and almost complete vacuum on the topic.

Some head the balls have been protesting outside libraries and schools, see the burke family (hilarious) and the likes of Derek Blighe, Gavin Pepper, Malachy Steenson (ex communist until he work fecked out for his views on abortion)and a few more I won't name publicly because I don't want to give them any traction.

Ultimately, the left have unfortunately been toothless in capitalising on a government that any real cohesive opposition could have torn to shreds. We're for the most part to busy fighting with eachother,

Nothing will really change nationally. Dublin might get one or two more socialist votes, and Aonto (a very conservative party that split from the left on social issues like divorce, abortion, and gay marriage, might pick up a few seats, but I'd be surprised if anything drastic happens.

This phone is shite, can't be arsed editing.
 
JakeC said:
and a lot of people to the left of the government...
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Should have been very vocal in voicing the kinds of criticism myself and others voiced from a left wing perspective here. Rather than inadvertently being blamed for the thing they had no say in. Minimally, SF would be 10 points ahead right now and maximally the debate would have moved to a nuanced area of policy rather than immigration itself. And, appropriately, landed on FFG's doorstep. Now I predict some far right types will see a surge. Likely to SF's detriment. Hope not. But seems to be.
 
Voted Sinn Fein today for the first time. I’ve little love for them, and a United Ireland is way down my list of priorities for this country, but they’re the only conceivable agent for a much-needed change right now, even if they’ll inevitably disappoint.
 
nimic said:
People usually say this as a joke, but I genuinely couldn't understand a single word. I might have caught "miles" at some point.

Also he says good morning at the end.
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You might stand some chance if he was sober.

I'd love to see him and that sheep farmer have a conversation.

Hugh Jass said:
:lol: :lol: shave a bullock.
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:lol::lol: i use that phrase quite regularly.
 
christy87 said:
When I vote today and I do my picks, if I write cnut into one of them will that spoil my vote
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I believe they'll interpret it as much as possible. If its a close vote he could argue for it to be disqualified on recounts or that writing 'cnut' was a preference for him over unselected candidates.
 
2cents said:
Voted Sinn Fein today for the first time. I’ve little love for them, and a United Ireland is way down my list of priorities for this country, but they’re the only conceivable agent for a much-needed change right now, even if they’ll inevitably disappoint.
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Same as, got my 1-2, then a local independent, then greens, then PBP (no soc dems here in Sligo).
 
Massive Spanner said:
Absolutely no chance ff don’t get in.
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Odds, which are sometimes useless but in a smaller country like Ireland might be somewhat useful (word of mouth and dodgy internal polling), have it that FF will get 45ish seats. SF to get 40 or more is somewhat even. FG to get less than 35 is also somewhat even.

Be a hard sell to the public again to go into the same coalition FF/FG if it pans out like that. SF with minor increase (I'm hoping it's off and it's a major increase tbf) and FF with an increase too and FG with a deficit on their last performance. I mean I hope the public just wipe FG out this time. And make it impossible for that to be a coalition option with the other votes being spread even if it means FF benefit, the only partner they'd have would likely be SF.

Just over three hours anyway.
 
Done my bit.... albeit from a very uninspiring field of candidates.

Gave a sitting independent my 1, 2 Labour, 3 SF... not particularly enamoured by any of them, but they're not FF/FG.

Never thought I'd see the day where I gave SF any preference.
 
Eyepopper said:
Never thought I'd see the day where I gave SF any preference.
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30 years ago, almost everyone here (if we were all of a similar age) would say the same. But times change and this FFG shit has to end. One being certain is bad enough, the two then going in together is taking the piss. SF, love, like, hate, have been good in opposition (could have been better) and mostly from their various shadow ministers. Especially on the key issues of the Irish day: housing, healthcare, and education.
 
sullydnl said:


Low turnout so far. Which you'd imagine will benefit FG/FF.
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That's 5pm. People still at work and leaving. Most won't be casting until now and later on. That would be almost half the turn out of five years ago. Not a chance it stays that way. I don't think it'll be higher (or much higher - probably a bit lower) but it won't be a massive drop off imo.
 
neverdie said:
That's 5pm. People still at work and leaving. Most won't be casting until now and later on. That would be almost half the turn out of five years ago. Not a chance it stays that way. I don't think it'll be higher (or much higher - probably a bit lower) but it won't be a massive drop off imo.
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I'm in a rural area and went down an hour ago, there was a steady stream of people going through at that stage.
 
neverdie said:
30 years ago, almost everyone here (if we were all of a similar age) would say the same. But times change and this FFG shit has to end. One being certain is bad enough, the two then going in together is taking the piss. SF, love, like, hate, have been good in opposition (could have been better) and mostly from their various shadow ministers. Especially on the key issues of the Irish day: housing, healthcare, and education.
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Not sure how anyone could say SF have been good in opposition. They had a huge result last election and collapsed spectacularly from there. They have rebounded a little, but only because of the others being fecking awful.

Uninspiring choices all round now. Independents will have a field day and ultimately we will get more of the same.
 
I have to admire this lads optimism

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Gee Male said:
Not sure how anyone could say SF have been good in opposition. They had a huge result last election and collapsed spectacularly from there. They have rebounded a little, but only because of the others being fecking awful.

Uninspiring choices all round now. Independents will have a field day and ultimately we will get more of the same.
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The 'collapse' was almost inevitable when literally everyone that wasn't them rounded on them. They didn't do much more wrong than anyone else. Leo's texts to his medical mates would have been a much bigger to-do if he was a Shinner. They missed the boat, rather than collapsed.

I think huge damage was done to their base by the emergence of the far right. Who rounded on Sinn Fein more than they did the government which was good politics by them in fairness. And further evidence to me it's not just a bunch of raging idiots but there is orchestration as well as funds from somewhere.
 
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