Irish Politics

Political points being scored (on Twitter) this week about how we don't have a fleet of warships patrolling the seas, nuking anything that comes within 100 kms of the Irish coast. This shit is what happens when they take pints away from the people of Ireland. They hoard all of their stupid opinions that they'd otherwise be spewing into the drunken ear of a fella called Maurice down the local about and go on Twitter and start flinging them about as if they're making a profound point, rather than being profoundly pointless.
 
Brophs said:
Political points being scored (on Twitter) this week about how we don't have a fleet of warships patrolling the seas, nuking anything that comes within 100 kms of the Irish coast. This shit is what happens when they take pints away from the people of Ireland. They hoard all of their stupid opinions that they'd otherwise be spewing into the drunken ear of a fella called Maurice down the local about and go on Twitter and start flinging them about as if they're making a profound point, rather than being profoundly pointless.
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Was that all kicked off my some plank having a moan about how one of Denmark’s battleships could obliterate our navy before we could even see it?
 
Yep, grim is the woird. Those last two paragraphs are true of every kind of progressive protest in this state.
 
moses said:
I heard newstalk the fecking scumbags pushing the narrative that parents helping with deposit was pushing up house prices, like the lapdogs they always are. Cart before the horse there lads.
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Newstalk are a bunch of twats.

Doesn't even need saying but if there was enough housing supply then people wouldn't need their parents.

I know so many people in their 30's now either stuck at home or renting for extortionate prices, people with really good jobs, because it's impossible to get a house.
 
moses said:
I heard newstalk the fecking scumbags pushing the narrative that parents helping with deposit was pushing up house prices, like the lapdogs they always are. Cart before the horse there lads.
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I mean if they used a teeny tiny bit of their brains they'd be able to work that one out.
 
Withnail said:
I mean if they used a teeny tiny bit of their brains they'd be able to work that one out.
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Oh they are using their brains, they are saying exactly what they want to say. It's the same narrative as paper straws, putting society's ills on the people and the people are so fecking egotistical they actually believe it.
 
Massive Spanner said:
Newstalk are a bunch of twats.

Doesn't even need saying but if there was enough housing supply then people wouldn't need their parents.

I know so many people in their 30's now either stuck at home or renting for extortionate prices, people with really good jobs, because it's impossible to get a house.
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Ah it's a no brainer, but that shite they were spouting lets the real culprits off.

The real conversation is that without the hand up working-class kids would not have been able to enter the property market this last 20+ years and because of a whole generation having negative equity and crippling mortgages there is a generation of working-class couples even with two salaries who will not be able to do the same for their kids and that is a massive blow to a whole section of society.
 
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Ugh the housing situation there is actually depressing. I'm currently trying to move back to Ireland at the moment, and perhaps questioning why, and while I'd love to buy a house I'll need to be in a job for a bit to qualify for a mortgage. So renting it is, and it's an absolute nightmare trying to get a place especially if you're doing it from abroad. The fecking rice of rent too for anywhere decent for two people, I'm concerned that all the savings we made in France will be gone. I could probably buy here in France tomorrow (minus all the french bureaucracy) but I'm minimum a year away in Ireland and that's going to be with a year at renting for stuff nowhere near worth the money. Sickening.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
“The average wage of a Google worker is about €150,000”

Fecking hell. Is that a real fact?
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I doubt it, but I know people who work there and it's probably not far off in some sectors. I imagine the median wage is a lot lower. I was offered an interview there before at a role that required five years experience and it was 90k + benefits, that was quite a few years ago.

It's not just Google either, IT in general has massive salaries.

Plus if it's a publicly traded company they give you loads of stocks every year to keep you there and you can make a fortune off of them.
 
stu_1992 said:
Ugh the housing situation there is actually depressing. I'm currently trying to move back to Ireland at the moment, and perhaps questioning why, and while I'd love to buy a house I'll need to be in a job for a bit to qualify for a mortgage. So renting it is, and it's an absolute nightmare trying to get a place especially if you're doing it from abroad. The fecking rice of rent too for anywhere decent for two people, I'm concerned that all the savings we made in France will be gone. I could probably buy here in France tomorrow (minus all the french bureaucracy) but I'm minimum a year away in Ireland and that's going to be with a year at renting for stuff nowhere near worth the money. Sickening.
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Why are you coming back? Can you buy in France and rent it while you are here so you don't piss away your savings?

Where are you going to be? Dublin?
 
stu_1992 said:
Ugh the housing situation there is actually depressing. I'm currently trying to move back to Ireland at the moment, and perhaps questioning why, and while I'd love to buy a house I'll need to be in a job for a bit to qualify for a mortgage. So renting it is, and it's an absolute nightmare trying to get a place especially if you're doing it from abroad. The fecking rice of rent too for anywhere decent for two people, I'm concerned that all the savings we made in France will be gone. I could probably buy here in France tomorrow (minus all the french bureaucracy) but I'm minimum a year away in Ireland and that's going to be with a year at renting for stuff nowhere near worth the money. Sickening.
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Where in France are you
 
Pogue Mahone said:
“The average wage of a Google worker is about €150,000”

Fecking hell. Is that a real fact?
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Wouldn't be far off total package wise, I would guess. Also have to take into account the massive exec salaries pushing that average up.

Massive Spanner said:
Newstalk are a bunch of twats.

Doesn't even need saying but if there was enough housing supply then people wouldn't need their parents.

I know so many people in their 30's now either stuck at home or renting for extortionate prices, people with really good jobs, because it's impossible to get a house.
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While the situation is woeful, it's not impossible to get a house, it's impossible to get a house in the one place 80% of working professionals want to live(i.e. Dublin). I'm sure plenty of your mates could buy an hour outside the city if they've good jobs, but half the problem is that half of the country is like a time machine in terms of amenities, so nobody wants to live there.
 
Conor said:
While the situation is woeful, it's not impossible to get a house, it's impossible to get a house in the one place 80% of working professionals want to live(i.e. Dublin). I'm sure plenty of your mates could buy an hour outside the city if they've good jobs, but half the problem is that half of the country is like a time machine in terms of amenities, so nobody wants to live there.
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Yeah, apart from the huge drop in facilities and amenities, which is a disgrace, what you save on the initial house price you suffer for in commute costs (both time and money) and various logistics especially if you're a greedy type who'd like kids and a house.

also Finglas is an hour outside Dublin except at night. You need to drive for two hours to make it affordable.
 
moses said:
Yeah, apart from the huge drop in facilities and amenities, which is a disgrace, what you save on the initial house price you suffer for in commute costs (both time and money) and various logistics especially if you're a greedy type who'd like kids and a house.
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The whole wfh thing will hopefully help in that regard, but yeah nobody wants to move back to 1980. The real problem is with people that aren't making 'good' money and basically can't buy anywhere though, they are completely fecked. The people that have money but can't buy the exact house they want are obviously being shafted by the current situation(and I can appreciate how frustrating it must be), but having to move out to the semi-sticks to afford something is not a new problem, my parents(both working at the time), along with thousands of others, had to do it 40 years ago, when the so called glory days of being able to buy a house existed.
 
Conor said:
Wouldn't be far off total package wise, I would guess. Also have to take into account the massive exec salaries pushing that average up.


While the situation is woeful, it's not impossible to get a house, it's impossible to get a house in the one place 80% of working professionals want to live(i.e. Dublin). I'm sure plenty of your mates could buy an hour outside the city if they've good jobs, but half the problem is that half of the country is like a time machine in terms of amenities, so nobody wants to live there.
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An hour outside of the city (on public transport) is Wicklow, Leixlip, Maynooth, Louth etc. which are all actually not far off Dublin prices now for anything decent and are rising faster than Dublin itself at the moment.

I personally would happily move back west away from Dublin if my work situation allowed it. It's not a bad city but it's not worth the sort of crazy prices of houses here. Would much prefer a lovely big country Sligo house and garden for half the price. Hopefully if I do go almost fully remote in the next few years and can convince the missus there's more to life outside of the m50 we will.
 
Conor said:
The whole wfh thing will hopefully help in that regard, but yeah nobody wants to move back to 1980. The real problem is with people that aren't making 'good' money and basically can't buy anywhere though, they are completely fecked. The people that have money but can't buy the exact house they want are obviously being shafted by the current situation(and I can appreciate how frustrating it must be), but having to move out to the semi-sticks to afford something is not a new problem, my parents(both working at the time), along with thousands of others, had to do it 40 years ago, when the so called glory days of being able to buy a house existed.
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Yep. I grew up in tallaght, the idea that we as a generation would struggle to afford to live there never crossed our minds but anyone who bought during the boom just couldn't. I can only apologise to Kildare and Blessington for the exodus. I ended up in Sligo.
 
Massive Spanner said:
An hour outside of the city (on public transport) is Wicklow, Leixlip, Maynooth, Louth etc. which are all actually not far off Dublin prices now for anything decent and are rising faster than Dublin itself at the moment.

I personally would happily move back west away from Dublin if my work situation allowed it. It's not a bad city but it's not worth the sort of crazy prices of houses here. Would much prefer a lovely big country Sligo house and garden for half the price. Hopefully if I do go almost fully remote in the next few years and can convince the missus there's more to life outside of the m50 we will.
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Yeah I was actually talking in driving terms of an hour outside Dublin itself, with wfh plenty of people could do a longer commute for 2 days a week in the office or something. I just think there should be clear separation of people that have the money to buy a house but aren't willing to sacrifice exactly where the house is, with those that are actually completely fecked and couldn't buy anything other than a shed in Donegal, even though they are in full time employment.
 
Conor said:
Yeah I was actually talking in driving terms of an hour outside Dublin itself, with wfh plenty of people could do a longer commute for 2 days a week in the office or something. I just think there should be clear separation of people that have the money to buy a house but aren't willing to sacrifice exactly where the house is, with those that are actually completely fecked and couldn't buy anything other than a shed in Donegal, even though they are in full time employment.
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That really depends on where you are. Almost any city center location won't have on site parking so you still need to get public transport which reduces the range massively, or the fact that traffic would add far more than 1 hour on to the journey. I know someone who drove to work in Smithfield from Leixlip and it took them 90 minutes some days. I guess a less central location like Blanchardstown makes driving a lot easier and to be fair when I worked there I knew a lot of people who did drive from further out.

It would also raise another issue which is already happening, which is people on Dublin salaries being forced to live much further away and making the cost of houses unaffordable for people who work in those towns, which then forces them into Dublin to earn money and causes a vicious circle.

Anyway I think the number of people who have the money but aren't willing to sacrifice where it is, as long as it's within some sort of reasonable one hour commute, as you say, is probably very low.
 
Decentralization of some kind is key.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
“The average wage of a Google worker is about €150,000”

Fecking hell. Is that a real fact?
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Don't know about other roles but starting salary for entry level software engineers in Google in US is around 150-200K$ (includes yearly stock and bonus too). In India it is about 40-50K $. Per this site https://www.levels.fyi/company/Google/salaries/Software-Engineer/ for Ireland it is around 110-120K $. Given engineers at higher level get much more, average salary for at least engineers in Google Ireland would easily be 150,000 euros if not more.
 
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