Best album ever.
NFT.
NFT.
Illmatic
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Seconded. I just don't anything ever topping that album. On that album Nas elevated hip hop from just snare rhymes to mid bar and multi syllable rhyming.
Never heard of it, therefore your statement has been rendered void.
Its not. It could be classed as one of though.
Agreed.
I agree.
Brilliant, brilliant album.
So brilliant I said it twice.
So brilliant I said it twice.
There.
It wouldn't be the best album ever even if every album every invented was destroyed in some sort of tragic cosmic meteorite incident. It's not even the best rap album ever.
I'm guessing this album is aimed at hip-hop fans. So I'm pretty sure he is referring to it being the best hip-hop album which it certainly is a very, very strong contender for. It changed the way MC's rhymed in a massive way. Basically improved what Rakim started.
He was 19, thats right, 19! when he wrote Illmatic.
Mind blowing.
Mind blowing.
What's your fave track? Has to be Ny State of mind
It is an absolutely fantastic album. Don't think it can be singled out as the best hip hop album ever but it's one of them.
Any Nas fan got to watch
Cheers for those links Boss, I'll definatly be checking them out later.
NaS crapped himself when 'Pac confronted him. NaS went onto say that they had made up before his death, NaS didn't really have any choice.
It ain't hard to tell for me.
Some good remixes were done from it too IIRC.
Some good remixes were done from it too IIRC.
Fantastic album
Sheer genius.
Sheer genius.
Nas is a fecking great rapper, better Jay-Z anyday of the week
Don't get me wrong, it is one of the best, I don't think any one album can be raised above every other. I don't think there is a better album though.
He would have had a point if he'd said "best hip-hop album"
But he didn't. So it's a daft claim.
Difficult to really say which is the best Hip Hop album of all time, but Illmatic is almost certainly in my top 3. A nation of millions, and enter the 36 chambers being the other 2.
if i had to do an in depth analysis lol id choose The 36 chambers.
if i had to do an in depth analysis lol id choose The 36 chambers.
Never seen that before - good stuff!
It's certainly in the highest realms of rap, not only for Nas' rhymes and storytelling, but the production was sublime.
Thanks for that, up to part 3 now. Interesting, if cheaply produced doco.
I'd feckin scuttle his cousin Janice an all.
I know it was a hugely important album for raps evolution, but I'm not a big fan of Illmatic. Stillmatic is the one that blows me away.
Agreed 100% !!!
Between Stillmatic and Gods Son, I don't know which one is better.
Illmatic is a classic in terms of the importance of the genre, but lyrically, musically, etc it's not got a lick on its sequel.
FWIW, I rate Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic, but Stillmatic > Blueprint... Some people call me crazy, but I don't give a feck.
Interesting documentary Boss. Cheers for that.
Oh and Takeover > Ether
Oh and Takeover > Ether
Illmatic is a ridiculously good album. I know loads of people who don't really like hip-hop but rate this album as one their favourites of all time. Rightly so.
I hear what you saying but I don't think you realise just how Illmatic changed the game. In fact, if it wasn't for Illmatic, then Reasonable Doubt and Ready to Die would never have happened. It defined a new way of flow and rhyming structure. I fused styles of Rakim, Slick Rick and the like and invented the mid bar rhyming style with it whilst painting a picture. It was unheard of in its time. And I think that is key. Stillmatic was a ridiculously great album but it didn't shift the Hip-Hop landscape the way its predecessor did. It revived Nas' career but thats about it.
Oh and Ether eats Takeover everyday, all day!
Oh of course, "Like an Aids Test, What's the results? Not Positive"
He sets the Tone right at the start!
Imho Takeover is a lot cleverer. But Ether more scathing. You can really here tha anger in Nas's voice. Plus Ether is just Nas attacking Jay-Z, whereas Takeover attacked Prodigy as well as Nas. Then again I'm a bigger Jay-Z fan then I am a Nas fan, so obviously going to be bias.
Illmatic is certainly Nas' best and therefore one of the best ever hiphop albums but number one? -not for me
only built for cuban linx is better and supreme clientele is at least its equal imo
oh and takeover>ether purely because JayZ is a better battle rhymer, nas is too analytical for battling and his diss songs during that era lacked the impact of Jays songs. Nas is the far better overall emcee though with a far stronger back catalogue.
only built for cuban linx is better and supreme clientele is at least its equal imo
oh and takeover>ether purely because JayZ is a better battle rhymer, nas is too analytical for battling and his diss songs during that era lacked the impact of Jays songs. Nas is the far better overall emcee though with a far stronger back catalogue.
I can't put stillmatic remotely near illmatic, production, lyrics, flow, it's not even in sight.
Reasonable Doubt is unreal, and so is OBFCL, but I don't think either Jay-Z or Raekwon had the overall skills to better Illmatic. RD came close, especially with the production, but both albums lacked the consistency Nas had, again, both in lyrics and production.
His flow, what he's actually saying, his vision are astounding, plus his age at the time, makes the album very hard to beat. I listen back to Illmatic, and I can't compare other songs/albums to it, because it's not fair.
The only song that has had a similar effect to nearly all of Illmatic on me, is Rakim - New York.
Reasonable Doubt is unreal, and so is OBFCL, but I don't think either Jay-Z or Raekwon had the overall skills to better Illmatic. RD came close, especially with the production, but both albums lacked the consistency Nas had, again, both in lyrics and production.
His flow, what he's actually saying, his vision are astounding, plus his age at the time, makes the album very hard to beat. I listen back to Illmatic, and I can't compare other songs/albums to it, because it's not fair.
The only song that has had a similar effect to nearly all of Illmatic on me, is Rakim - New York.
That is exactly what I'm trying to relay to Anderson Searl. You cannot possibly compare Stillmatic with Illmatic. It is worlds apart as good an album Stillmatic was, Illmatic is was a watershed moment in the history of hip-hop.