Hypothetical Swap; Veron for J.Cole, whats your verdict?

Veron won't go to West Ham and WH can't pay his wage. Therefore the possibility of it happening is 0%.

But if just for hypothetical, I'd give it a try :D
 
Originally posted by zippy:
<strong>I say its worth the gamble....

whatdyareckon?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I know Veron has had his critics, no one more so than myself, but to swap him with J Cole would be a terrible mistake. J Cole's best position is still not decided, he has done quite well in a number of positions without totally convincing. He is not even a regular starter for his England yet. I believe if SAF is thinking of swapping Veron then he should do so for a proven international not merely potential which at this stage is all J Cole is. Remember that in this Bosman era, players are no longer going to stay at clubs for the periods of time that they did pre Bosman. Would a move for a player like Mendietta not perhaps be a better alternative. I think in an ideal world we would cash in on Veron, but ultimately we would not recoup our original outlay.
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if we can get joe cole,then we have a fantasy player.lovely skills & footwork.and wat an age!

but not too sure bout the swap.i doubt veron will leave united for another club in EPL.
 
Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
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I believe if SAF is thinking of swapping Veron then he should do so for a proven international not merely potential which at this stage is all J Cole is. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Roy Keane was nothing but potential when he arrived at united - being at a club like united helped make him the player he is. unless you bring a player like that in and nurture them, how will you ever know whether potential will be realized? I have never seen joe cole have a bad game yet, and thats being surrounded by average players, at united he would have better support and would do very well, especially with fergie bringing him along.

Of all the english players out there joe cole is the only one that looks like a united player to me.

If west ham are relegated joe cole will have to look elsewhere. i would cry like a baby if this happend and he didnt end up at united.
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Originally posted by zippy:
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Roy Keane was nothing but potential when he arrived at united - being at a club like united helped make him the player he is. unless you bring a player like that in and nurture them, how will you ever know whether potential will be realized? I have never seen joe cole have a bad game yet, and thats being surrounded by average players, at united he would have better support and would do very well, especially with fergie bringing him along.

Of all the english players out there joe cole is the only one that looks like a united player to me.

If west ham are relegated joe cole will have to look elsewhere. i would cry like a baby if this happend and he didnt end up at united.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Roy Keane was a full regular international player who had a settled position, had played in a team that had enjoyed a decent run at one stage, so to say he was all potential would be a little unfair. But that brings me to the point I made in my response, Keane was brought to United in a long term capacity, players are no longer bought with that thinking in mind re Yorke, Stam and Cantona. I am not disputing that Cole is a talented player, but to state that you have never seen him play a bad game is taking the piss.
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Originally posted by uranushk1:
<strong>But if just for hypothetical, I'd give it a try :D </strong><hr></blockquote>

Typical that from you! :rolleyes:

No vision.
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Originally posted by zippy:
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Of all the english players out there joe cole is the only one that looks like a united player to me.

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Just a thought, personally i dont know if he will ever become the great player everyone thinks he will, i could be proved wrong and i think he would be an awesome success in Italy, i just cant see him dominating in England, Veron isnt really suited to England either but id rather have Veron than Cole.
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apart from some nice looking tricks what has joe cole ever done?

swap for veron my ass
 
Originally posted by zippy:
<strong>I say its worth the gamble....

whatdyareckon?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why not RVN for Kanoute or Becks for Carrick while were at it. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
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Originally posted by michael owen's mum:
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now THAT sounds more like a fair swap. . .

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you have read out of context

simple mistake
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Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
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I know Veron has had his critics, no one more so than myself,</strong><hr></blockquote>

Bollox.
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MU would stand a better chance at a player swap w/lazio - please no cash involved!

sorin and stankovic (spelling)- and a striker
 
<img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> at the topic! <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
I'd like to see Joe Cole at united but not at the expense of any of our current squad
 
I am not a fan of the current Veron, But he is playing at %50 of his ability and looks better than Cole already, so No thanx, I think and hope Veron will come good soon.I think we and me included are a bit tough on him because of what we know he could do. As for the Liverfool fans, they just can not be but scared if he ever plays at 70% of his ability.
Now Forlan,.#$$%%^^^^& :mad: :mad: I do not want to go there.#$$%%^^^^& :mad: :mad:
 
Originally posted by Ever hopefull:
<strong>I'd like to see Joe Cole at united but not at the expense of any of our current squad</strong><hr></blockquote>

Again, Joe Cole is the only player that looks like a united player to me, i am not one of the fans on here that was moaning about us buying a big name player, united have never had success from buying a bunch a superstar type players, all our success has come from youngsters that have been groomed and bred as united players, i believe that young joe is young enough and good enough to become a top class united player but only if we can pick him up soon. For West Ham to part with Joe Cole there would have to be a REALLY fruitfull deal for them, even offering Veron might not be enough!

Those who are calling Cole crap and not worthy of a place at united are the same fans that want to buy half of Real Madrids team; zidane etc, they want 'big name players' i want players that fit the united team, years ago we brought in players like kanchelskis and lee sharp for relatively low transfer fee's and ended up with a great team. I would read united fans posts on here saying things like 'were the biggest team in the world why dont we have a big name player' the club was pressured into signing Veron by fans like this and to be totally honest im pissed off with them for it, we didnt need veron and still dont need him today, a player like joe cole would have been a much better buy because a good young player can be moulded into a great player but a player like verons mould has already been cast.

To the fans here that mock the topic; open your minds to possibilities, ANYTHING is possible in football. Cantona was bought in an off chance conversation.
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Veron is a world class midfielder in his best years. Recently he did fairly well at OT so let us not critise him

Joe Cole is a wonderful player,but i see him more as the star in our reserve team rather than a regular team member

Secondly Veron cost 25m+ while I wouldnt spent more than 10m on Joe Cole
 
If we could get Joe Cole for less than £10million we should take it. The worst that could happen is we sell him in 2 or 3 years for about £20million.
 
Never in a million years.

Joe Cole's got all the tricks and is great with the ball at his feet, but, he cant pass or shoot and doesnt appear to have any vision (in terms of creativity).

He's been talked about for years and I'm still waiting to be impressed.

Veron's coming good, and is getting his Lazio confidence back. When on form he's the finished article. Much more of the same from him and we'll all be saying that we wouldnt swap him for ANYONE!
 
Originally posted by zippy:
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at united he would have better support and would do very well, especially with fergie bringing him along.

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Either that or he could crumble under all the expectation.
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Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>Zipy you want a response? <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

Well here goes
Up yours MORON!!!!!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

;) glad to see the topic brought out a bit of passion in someone!
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