Honda-Nissan-Mitsubishi merger

Interesting. Nissan were in the shit. And Mitsubishi Motors is just a part of the Mitsubishi group.
 
Pretty standard in the automotive industry, no?
It's not a normal merger given the history of the two companies. Honda has been known for making some of the best engine technologies.

It would pretty much spell the end of Japanese reliability. They're merging to fight the Chinese automakers, not Toyota.
 
Interesting. Nissan were in the shit. And Mitsubishi Motors is just a part of the Mitsubishi group.
The Honda CEO specifically said that this merger is not to save Nissan which means it will be Honda leading the merger.
 
You could live with an oligopoly in some sectors but in automotive it does not bode well for the future of that market.
 
Soon all the manufacturers will have merged into one big blob. You know how if you mix all the colours together you get turd brown? If you mix all the cars together you get a Cybertruck.
 
I’ve got a Nissan, albeit on lease with 18 months left but all the same I’m glad they’re not going under!
 
Why sad?

We see this happening all the time. Just a few years ago it was Fiat-Chrysler (which had just merged) merging with Peugeot to make Stellantis. And we also saw WV merging with Porsche.
Given the history and rivalry of these automakers it is quite sad for me to see them merge.

It's normal when you see city football group acquiring a random club but you can't imagine them merging two rivals together.
 
Why would they become collectively shit, instead of collectively very good?
The CEOs themselves mentioned that the move is to compete against the Chinese automakers and to focus on electronification which leaves Mazda as the only competitor for Toyota. But as Mazda is too small to compete there's basically no reason for Toyota to continue making reliable vehicles.

That's of course my opinion because I still value reliability the most over other things while purchasing a car.
 
The CEOs themselves mentioned that the move is to compete against the Chinese automakers and to focus on electronification which leaves Mazda as the only competitor for Toyota. But as Mazda is too small to compete there's basically no reason for Toyota to continue making reliable vehicles.

That's of course my opinion because I still value reliability the most over other things while purchasing a car.
That would be detrimental for Toyota in the international market. Especially in the North American market, they wouldn't want to go behind Ford and Chevrolet
 
Nissan surely make the ugliest cars out of the big manufacturers. The Duke and Qashqai are horrific looking. And the big EV SUV they make now is a monstrosity.

I do like the leaf though, one of the few practical affordable EVs throughout the last decade.
 
Nissan surely make the ugliest cars out of the big manufacturers. The Duke and Qashqai are horrific looking. And the big EV SUV they make now is a monstrosity.

I do like the leaf though, one of the few practical affordable EVs throughout the last decade.

:o
 
:lol: sorry, I’m sure it’s a great car, it’s just so ugly and massive. Also think Nissan make some of the worst interiors of the big manufacturers.
It’s lovely! I think the two tone versions are ugly as hell, especially the brand copper colour which is horrid. I’ve got it in pearl black and it looks great imo.

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The interior is great too, they’ve stepped it up massively from their other cars. It’s a ground up redesign, nothing like any of their other cars.
 
It’s lovely! I think the two tone versions are ugly as hell, especially the brand copper colour which is horrid. I’ve got it in pearl black and it looks great imo.

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The interior is great too, they’ve stepped it up massively from their other cars. It’s a ground up redesign, nothing like any of their other cars.
Something about the massive front I don’t like. I’m probably biased as I generally detest all big SUVs anyway, except the Kia EV6, that’s a lovely looking big car.
 
It’s lovely! I think the two tone versions are ugly as hell, especially the brand copper colour which is horrid. I’ve got it in pearl black and it looks great imo.

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The interior is great too, they’ve stepped it up massively from their other cars. It’s a ground up redesign, nothing like any of their other cars.
It's one of those cars that look nicer in person than it does in pictures.
 
New Cashcow isn’t too bad looking. The Ariya is pretty enough from the front and from the back but the two somehow don’t go together!
Never liked the juke, it’s a hideous blob - but generally Nissans don’t do anything for me (unless they have a GTR badge - Pulsar is particularly god tier)