Herr Musk | Fascist

Yeah. I sometimes feel It’d do me good to have a conversation with a Trump/Musk supporter as all my friends and colleagues, and seemingly Redcafe, hate them as much as me.

If only to understand how two people, who I find unequivocally despicable, have won so much adoration and are now the most influential people on the world.

Don't do it to yourself. I tried it with some conservative (UK) family over christmas and it will just leave you wanting to pull your hair out. The cognitive dissonance, the double standards, the things that just seem like thinly veiled outright dislike of others, it's just not something you can wrap your mind around if you aren't part of that sphere.
 
Yes, because he's a trolling wanker who thinks real life in a 2005 4Chan message board where he can get away with all sorts of fecked up "edgy humour."

Not because he's genuinely a massive supporter of the third reich...
Have you read his public support of the AFD in Germany, who have been convicted of using nazi slogans in speeches?

His call for support of the convicted far right thug Tommy Robinson In the UK?

If it quacks like a duck...
 
i take it no one has bothered to watch some of musk’s long form interviews on things like nose measurements and ethnic cleansing?
 
I think people are way over-reacting to this.

IMO he's just a trolly edgelord "4chan humour" who thinks he can get away with internet-esque trolling/LARP behaviour in real life because he's a billionaire.

Which, doesn't make him in any way less of a knob head, but I have very little indication to believe he's genuinely pro Nazism.

Cannot really reconcile him being a Nazi and also being heavily pro-Israel.
If you feel like that when the richest man in the world does a Nazi salute, twice, at the presidents inauguration, it might be you who’s not reacting properly.

What you’re writing is a gross misunderstanding of the modern far right, their enemies and who they aim their racism at. The way your post reads, basically only members of the NSDAP could be actual Nazis.
The Israel stuff is absolutely no reason to cast doubt over Musk‘s deeply racist convictions, that align perfectly well with his biography, his upbringing and his statements and actions. He is, beyond any reasonable doubt, obviously deeply racist, sympathises with actual modern Nazis, gives them a platform and actively endorses their content.
The difference nowadays is that the target of nazism has changed and Muslims are the new Jews. Because they are the easier target, enjoy far less public support and are put under much more scrutiny than other ethic or religious groups.
But the mere fact that the scapegoat has changed, doesn’t render him somehow any less of a Nazi. He’s just a modern one, not one from the thirties. Movements change and adapt. As did nazism. And he aligns perfectly well with this modern version.
To absolve him from his nazism because the movement has changed, doesn’t do justice to reality and is a bit lazy.
Also the 4chan stuff is a really weird excuse. The reasons for his Nazism don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if he does it to impress weird internet dudes, a woman, SpongeBob or his almighty god. It’s like saying people in the thirties weren’t Nazis, as long as they had other reasons for joining than antisemitism, like economic issues. Or put differently: if I were to become a Jehovah’s Witness because I like the coffee at their meetings, I’d still be a Jehovah’s Witness.
So even if Musk is only doing all this because he’s a sad little dweeb without friends, he’d still be a Nazi.

Stop finding excuses for the man, stop trivialising his actions and believe him when he reveals himself to the public.
 
I think people are way over-reacting to this.

IMO he's just a trolly edgelord "4chan humour" who thinks he can get away with internet-esque trolling/LARP behaviour in real life because he's a billionaire.

Which, doesn't make him in any way less of a knob head, but I have very little indication to believe he's genuinely pro Nazism.

Cannot really reconcile him being a Nazi and also being heavily pro-Israel.
Nobody is overreacting. In an ideal world, Murica would react far more to this racist sexist scumbag. That you lot make excuses for him based in being an edge lord, nerd, autistic etc says it all about how acceptable these deplorable values have become in today’s society.

I don’t think anyone is claiming he’s a clone of Hitler. Thankfully, he has nowhere near that power and influence over people. It’s more about harbouring and spreading similar values - and all these extreme RW turd balls like him, Trump etc absolutely do that.
 
If you feel like that when the richest man in the world does a Nazi salute, twice, at the presidents inauguration, it might be you who’s not reacting properly.

What you’re writing is a gross misunderstanding of the modern far right, their enemies and who they aim their racism at. The way your post reads, basically only members of the NSDAP could be actual Nazis.
The Israel stuff is absolutely no reason to cast doubt over Musk‘s deeply racist convictions, that align perfectly well with his biography, his upbringing and his statements and actions. He is, beyond any reasonable doubt, obviously deeply racist, sympathises with actual modern Nazis, gives them a platform and actively endorses their content.
The difference nowadays is that the target of nazism has changed and Muslims are the new Jews. Because they are the easier target, enjoy far less public support and are put under much more scrutiny than other ethic or religious groups.
But the mere fact that the scapegoat has changed, doesn’t render him somehow any less of a Nazi. He’s just a modern one, not one from the thirties. Movements change and adapt. As did nazism. And he aligns perfectly well with this modern version.
To absolve him from his nazism because the movement has changed, doesn’t do justice to reality and is a bit lazy.
Also the 4chan stuff is a really weird excuse. The reasons for his Nazism don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if he does it to impress weird internet dudes, a woman, SpongeBob or his almighty god. It’s like saying people in the thirties weren’t Nazis, as long as they had other reasons for joining than antisemitism, like economic issues. Or put differently: if I were to become a Jehovah’s Witness because I like the coffee at their meetings, I’d still be a Jehovah’s Witness.
So even if Musk is only doing all this because he’s a sad little dweeb without friends, he’d still be a Nazi.

Stop finding excuses for the man, stop trivialising his actions and believe him when he reveals himself to the public.
Great post
 
Everytime someone brings up EDL and Tommy Robinson this classic springs to mind



Meanwhile 15 years later, The "Iraq Muslamic Law" has surprisingly, not been introduced in the UK.

This would be an above average Trump era congressman.
 
If you feel like that when the richest man in the world does a Nazi salute, twice, at the presidents inauguration, it might be you who’s not reacting properly.

What you’re writing is a gross misunderstanding of the modern far right, their enemies and who they aim their racism at. The way your post reads, basically only members of the NSDAP could be actual Nazis.
The Israel stuff is absolutely no reason to cast doubt over Musk‘s deeply racist convictions, that align perfectly well with his biography, his upbringing and his statements and actions. He is, beyond any reasonable doubt, obviously deeply racist, sympathises with actual modern Nazis, gives them a platform and actively endorses their content.
The difference nowadays is that the target of nazism has changed and Muslims are the new Jews. Because they are the easier target, enjoy far less public support and are put under much more scrutiny than other ethic or religious groups.
But the mere fact that the scapegoat has changed, doesn’t render him somehow any less of a Nazi. He’s just a modern one, not one from the thirties. Movements change and adapt. As did nazism. And he aligns perfectly well with this modern version.
To absolve him from his nazism because the movement has changed, doesn’t do justice to reality and is a bit lazy.
Also the 4chan stuff is a really weird excuse. The reasons for his Nazism don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if he does it to impress weird internet dudes, a woman, SpongeBob or his almighty god. It’s like saying people in the thirties weren’t Nazis, as long as they had other reasons for joining than antisemitism, like economic issues. Or put differently: if I were to become a Jehovah’s Witness because I like the coffee at their meetings, I’d still be a Jehovah’s Witness.
So even if Musk is only doing all this because he’s a sad little dweeb without friends, he’d still be a Nazi.

Stop finding excuses for the man, stop trivialising his actions and believe him when he reveals himself to the public.

Superb post
 
If you feel like that when the richest man in the world does a Nazi salute, twice, at the presidents inauguration, it might be you who’s not reacting properly.

What you’re writing is a gross misunderstanding of the modern far right, their enemies and who they aim their racism at. The way your post reads, basically only members of the NSDAP could be actual Nazis.
The Israel stuff is absolutely no reason to cast doubt over Musk‘s deeply racist convictions, that align perfectly well with his biography, his upbringing and his statements and actions. He is, beyond any reasonable doubt, obviously deeply racist, sympathises with actual modern Nazis, gives them a platform and actively endorses their content.
The difference nowadays is that the target of nazism has changed and Muslims are the new Jews. Because they are the easier target, enjoy far less public support and are put under much more scrutiny than other ethic or religious groups.
But the mere fact that the scapegoat has changed, doesn’t render him somehow any less of a Nazi. He’s just a modern one, not one from the thirties. Movements change and adapt. As did nazism. And he aligns perfectly well with this modern version.
To absolve him from his nazism because the movement has changed, doesn’t do justice to reality and is a bit lazy.
Also the 4chan stuff is a really weird excuse. The reasons for his Nazism don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if he does it to impress weird internet dudes, a woman, SpongeBob or his almighty god. It’s like saying people in the thirties weren’t Nazis, as long as they had other reasons for joining than antisemitism, like economic issues. Or put differently: if I were to become a Jehovah’s Witness because I like the coffee at their meetings, I’d still be a Jehovah’s Witness.
So even if Musk is only doing all this because he’s a sad little dweeb without friends, he’d still be a Nazi.

Stop finding excuses for the man, stop trivialising his actions and believe him when he reveals himself to the public.
This is a fantastic post
 
If you feel like that when the richest man in the world does a Nazi salute, twice, at the presidents inauguration, it might be you who’s not reacting properly.

What you’re writing is a gross misunderstanding of the modern far right, their enemies and who they aim their racism at. The way your post reads, basically only members of the NSDAP could be actual Nazis.
The Israel stuff is absolutely no reason to cast doubt over Musk‘s deeply racist convictions, that align perfectly well with his biography, his upbringing and his statements and actions. He is, beyond any reasonable doubt, obviously deeply racist, sympathises with actual modern Nazis, gives them a platform and actively endorses their content.
The difference nowadays is that the target of nazism has changed and Muslims are the new Jews. Because they are the easier target, enjoy far less public support and are put under much more scrutiny than other ethic or religious groups.
But the mere fact that the scapegoat has changed, doesn’t render him somehow any less of a Nazi. He’s just a modern one, not one from the thirties. Movements change and adapt. As did nazism. And he aligns perfectly well with this modern version.
To absolve him from his nazism because the movement has changed, doesn’t do justice to reality and is a bit lazy.
Also the 4chan stuff is a really weird excuse. The reasons for his Nazism don’t matter. It doesn’t matter if he does it to impress weird internet dudes, a woman, SpongeBob or his almighty god. It’s like saying people in the thirties weren’t Nazis, as long as they had other reasons for joining than antisemitism, like economic issues. Or put differently: if I were to become a Jehovah’s Witness because I like the coffee at their meetings, I’d still be a Jehovah’s Witness.
So even if Musk is only doing all this because he’s a sad little dweeb without friends, he’d still be a Nazi.

Stop finding excuses for the man, stop trivialising his actions and believe him when he reveals himself to the public.
what a joke of a post. records show he didn’t even vote for hitler in the 30s, so how can he be a nazi?