You don't think that the guy who supports every ultra right wing operations in Europe, including Nazis, a guy who grew up in a pro-apartheid household, a guy who was literally named after a Nazi, does a Nazi salute publicly...you don't believe that guy could be a Nazi?
Just a supporter of Germany's current far right party, run by the granddaughter of a Nazi judge appointed by Hitler himself.
️I’ve heard whispers
Ok but why does he need to convince you? Why are you trying to decipher his intentions for yourself? Why not just take him what he is at face value? A troll? Yes. A troll who's also a Nazi? That's what he's telling us. Checks out with his Hitler rhetoric, holocaust denial and supporting right wing parties with money and public declarations, including the Nazi ones.
Have you been living in a cave for the last year regarding Musk?
That's pretty much what's happening isn't it? What values do you see that you align with? The fascism? The women oppression? The oligarchy?
It's exactly what's happening. It's either through willful ignorance or cognitive dissonance that they can't see it. It's happening, people need to come to terms with it. Especially if we're going to have any chance of defeating it
To be fair it only seems like 5 minutes ago that all anyone had to know about Musk was "rich dude, proper weirdo." Simpler times.
Definitely not. Small government and libertarian has got nothing to do with the modern day accusations of fascism leveled at Trump. It's more the extreme nationalism, making the media the enemy, general totalitarianism, traditional sex and gender roles, and direct political action and violence.
From post truth to post meme
Well if you look at the evidence ie the conduct of Nazis in and the conduct of Israeli ultra nationalists, then it is clear there isn’t much distinction between them.
They've dubbed him Twitler on reddit
They've dubbed him Twitler on reddit
You're massively overstating just how much of a practical difference does that make.
Without compiling a long-list, most recently he's been cozying up to the AfD in Germany. This is far-right political party with some seriously troubling links to neo-Nazis in their own ranks. In 2024 there was a big scandal about high-ranking members of the AfD meeting with literal neo-Nazis to discuss deportation plans and other things. This is a party that, according to Musk, is the only one that can save Germany. Appearing in a podcast with co-chairwoman of the party they agreed on the old trope that Hitler was actually socialist.
Give it a few years. They are tracked for right wing extremism by German intelligence in several German states
Thankfully, no. Irish.
I think the whole "does it cross into Nazism/fascism" debate is a bit of a red herring. It always ends up with meaningless comparisons and people finding differences between the original versions and what we are seeing now. I think MAGA has crossed well over the line of what should be acceptable behavior in the political arena. Reasonable people can disagree on whether it's fascism based on different definitions.
