Exactly, plus I recall Giggs saying he benches 120 kg...He is ripped for a football player.
Heavy weight training and footballers
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Exactly, plus I recall Giggs saying he benches 120 kg...He is ripped for a football player.
No he's not. Not even remotely.
120kg isn't anything that impressive for a athlete, id expect Pogba to be able to do that and he's far leaner than Shaw.
I don't even see how it's a debate. Shaw is clearly carrying extra weight, something he's been critised his whole career for doing so. Pochettino, Hodgson, LvG all called him out on it before.
Shaw benches 120kg? You wouldn't expect a footballer to bench much but given the huge backside he's got i could believe he squats 120kg or more.
I think any footballer will be able to squat a few reps of 120kg or more. That's nothing at all considering their huge quads and hamstrings. But benching 120kg is not easy as you need considerable upper body strength which not all footballers have. In our team, I think Lukaku, Valencia, Zlatan and probably Fellaini can pull it off.
Add Jones, Smalling, Bailly and Rojo to that list. Matic as well.
120kg for a powerful footballer isn't that impressive a bench.
I would imagine most players will be able to x2 their body weight for one squat. Squat is more important than bench for footballers.
You know this how?
In addition,
This might have been during his injury phase, but he looks like he has more upper body muscle then all of the guys in our team bar Tony.
All of the fat in his body is stored on his arse. We all know this.You know this how?
In addition,
This might have been during his injury phase, but he looks like he has more upper body muscle then all of the guys in our team bar Tony.
You know this how?
In addition,
This might have been during his injury phase, but he looks like he has more upper body muscle then all of the guys in our team bar Tony.
I have quite a few friends who play professionally in Scotland, and it's not exactly a crazy number. Your average joe gym lifter will be able to do 100kg within a year if they actually stick to it.
I would be surprised/disappointed if Rashford couldn't.
Stop talking about benching
Not sure Scottish footballers should be used as a benchmark for anything!
I trained in the same gym as Dundee United for a year a few seasons ago, and Hibs and a few others used it in the pre-season. They turned up after having played on the practice pitches before hand and most stood around having a chat for an hour and left without doing anything more strenuous than some band work. I comfortably out lifted almost the entire team, and I'm weak as shit.
Rashford benching 264 pounds? You are out of your god damn mind if you think he could get anywhere that close.
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Doubt any of Fellaini, Smalling, Bailly or Rojo bench 120 with more then one or two reps. I'll give you Shaw, Lukaku and maybe Val and Poggers but that's about it. Squats I agree.
Just like Memphis then.
And Sterling.
Haha football players benching 100kg? Not a bloody chance, that's a heavy weight for lean players.
Ryan Giggs said he saw him do it personally.
Fair enough, that surprises me quite a lot tbh. Doubt that many players can shift that
Another poster on here seems to think Rashford and Zlatan are capable of doing so
Zlatan I can imagine, lukaku too, be amazed if Rashford can move more than 1 or 2 reps as he looks a little skinny but then he is getting bigger. Who knows.
Jones and Smalling can probably do it, too.
No way Rashford can. He backs off from a lot of physical battles.
100kg is nothing special, for Rashford who's probably about 75ish Kg, and has been brought up a athlete training weights in the gym.
It really isn't that impressive.
I said 120kg. There is no chance Rashford can bench 264 pounds/120kg especially when he weighs 70kg and his arms look tiny as hell. There are pro basketball players who can't even get that high and bball is a much more physical game than football.
Zlatan is huge maybe. Given his long arms and how skinny he is I doubt it.
Lol you guys still talking about the bench press? The only players that can do it is shaw, valencia, Jones, and Lukaku thats it. Many of the players have been showed shirtless and those are the only ones with thick enough chest and shoulders to handle the load. Everyone else has a bird chest.
Christ, now we're even talking about how much a player can bench. I've been weight training consistently for 15 years, and I don't even care about what I can bench.
The main premise was that Shaw is made up mostly of muscle rather than being overweight. His strength suggests the former but according to certain posters benching 120kg is nothing special.
Benching a 120kgs is not easy, 100kgs is more achievable. You have to think that it's way easier to go 70-100 than 100-120.
Also, how someone looks has feck all to do with how much they can lift. Strength training doesn't get you as big as bodybuilding.
Eitherway, it's not looking good for him atm. Unless this is a Jose tactic, I don't see him staying here for long which is a shame as he's clearly a very talented player and still very young. I sometimes forget about him even being at the club.
Also, how someone looks has feck all to do with how much they can lift. Strength training doesn't get you as big as bodybuilding.
Eitherway, it's not looking good for him atm. Unless this is a Jose tactic, I don't see him staying here for long which is a shame as he's clearly a very talented player and still very young. I sometimes forget about him even being at the club.
With their terrible form in general, I would doub it. I watched a good training session of the french national team and honestly I couldn't believe my eyes the terrible form they were using for squats. They're supposed to be supervised by pros and it was terrible. Pogba used the leg press machine in a way that made me cringe for my knees.
Strength has nothing to do with body fat. He can be as strong as an ox but have a bf of 15%+. In fact, strength trainees usually have higher bfs than other types of athletes. So it's certainly not proof of his condition to play football; and to be honest, a totally useless metric of athletic performance in this sport.
Agree. Sumo has great strength and body fat too. Fat people have great strength too. In regarding of football, overweight either by muscle or body fat can hinder the other quality needed for the game.
You are right, point proven. I still don't think that Shaw has grown overweight from high body fat though, if that was the case, I doubt Shaw would still be around to be honest.
Main muscle used in bench press is your chest, you only slightly use your triceps other than that.
Your triceps are worked just as much as the chest; nevertheless, he is still a pretty skinny dude with small arms. 95kg is the max I'd expect from him IMO.
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They really aren’t, they are stabilising muscles within a bench press. If you’re burning out your triceps then your bench pressing technique is wrong.
I’d imagine most footballers of Rashfords size and in his position to be able to bench around 120kg
I’m guessing you don’t work out if you think 100kg is a big number. Rashford and Martial if you look at them have quite big chests because really your arms do very little unless you’re doing it wrong.
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100kg isnt a big number but i guess rashford can Bench like 80.
His Chest is way too small for 100 kg. It might appear big but its due to his low bodyfat.
Rashford/Martial benching 120kg according to that guy.. doubt they lift more than their bodyweight, its not conducive to speed, agility or stamina.