Has Bellion already joined MU?

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Saw this in the Guardian....

Story is about The Mackems...I have highlighted the relevent bit.

Rising debt of £26m may see Sunderland in administration

Michael Walker
Tuesday May 13, 2003
The Guardian

Sunderland's chairman Bob Murray yesterday refused to rule out the Wearside club going into administration this summer after relegation from the Premiership.
Sunderland's debt is £26m and growing, and they have the seventh-highest wage bill in England. Murray answered ambiguously when asked if administration was a possibility over the close season.

"I can't guarantee it," Murray said. "We are doing everything within our powers and taking every decision to ensure that isn't a possibility. Sunderland will implement its financial plan and will do what it has to do to secure its future."

Murray was given the opportunity to say outright that administration will not occur, but he did not take it. He described Sunderland's economic situation as "vicious". But the chairman, who has been ill recently with stress caused partly by Sunderland's decline, said he has returned to the club full-time and will not be resigning. "The bank wants leadership," he pointed out.

The implications of demotion are ever greater now that Football League chairmen are considering a points punishment for any club that applies for administration. The subject will be debated at their agm next month.

One of the financial measures being examined, said Murray, is a securitisation of its debt via another bank loan. A few weeks ago the departing chief executive Hugh Roberts said the club was financially stable, but yesterday Murray painted a much bleaker picture.

"You've heard of the feelgood factor," Murray said, "I think I have had the feelbad factor."

Sunderland are making 83 non-playing staff redundant, closing club merchandise shops, and all its residential properties are up for sale. Next the squad, about whom Murray was scathing, will be cut. David Bellion left yesterday for Manchester United for a fee to be fixed by tribunal, but others who remain will be made unwelcome at training when it resumes, a confrontational and controversial approach.

"I blame myself but the players aren't short of money, are they?" Murray said. "How many of them can look at themselves in the mirror this morning?

"We have to achieve a wage-bill reduction. We are the biggest club ever to be relegated from the Premiership and everybody is looking at us to see how we survive. The enormity of the failure is immeasurable.

"The bank has been very supportive. You can't build a stadium like this and a training ground like that, spend £22m on players last summer and have the seventh-highest wage bill without getting into debt."

Murray has taken much personal abuse from fans. Did he have a message for them? "I apologise," he said.
 
Saw the same thing in the Times but the offical site has something different:

Bellion linked with Reds move

13/5/03 11:12 AM


David Bellion's agent has responded to resurfacing reports that the French forward is poised to sign for Manchester United.

There was rumoured to be interest in the Sunderland player, whose contract expires this summer, during the January transfer window, but a deal never materialised.

However, the 20-year-old pacy forward, who signed for Sunderland on a free transfer from French side AS Cannes in 2001, is again being linked with a move to Old Trafford.

Bellion's agent, Mike Morris, said: "I don't think it is any secret United like him but nothing has been signed."

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<a href="http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=35458" target="_blank">link</a>
 
I noticed the wording about Bellion in the Guardian article is not in quotation marks...unlike

Maybe some so called clever journalist making more of it than there is.
 
Times headline is "Bellion first out in Sunderland cuts" and starts:

David Bellion, who has finally joined Manchester United, will be followed out of the Stadium of Light by a raft of others... <hr></blockquote>

<a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,277-678521,00.html" target="_blank">here</a>
 
If Bellion's contract is up why would we be going to a tribunal about a fee? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
 
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>If Bellion's contract is up why would we be going to a tribunal about a fee? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think it's cos he's too young to leave on a Bosman or something.
 
Originally posted by thumper:
<strong>If Bellion's contract is up why would we be going to a tribunal about a fee? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>
I think the rule is if he's under 23 there's got to be a fee even if he's out of contract so that clubs get compensation for coaching young players.
 
has any1 seen Bellion play??
I saw him play once and he didn't impress me... and just look at the season Sunderland have had...
However if Sir Alex sees something in him then who am I to argue??
 
Originally posted by KidCreole:
<strong>has any1 seen Bellion play??
I saw him play once and he didn't impress me... and just look at the season Sunderland have had...
However if Sir Alex sees something in him then who am I to argue??</strong><hr></blockquote>
Seen him once. He was fast, decent first touch, knows where the goal is. Decent prospect I would say.
 
7th largest wage bill in england? :eek: for that bunch of tossers ? :eek: the scrubber McAteer must be on 40k a week!
 
Originally posted by LenSharkey:
<strong>7th largest wage bill in england? :eek: for that bunch of tossers ? :eek: the scrubber McAteer must be on 40k a week!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bloody hell, I missed that bit, for a team that picked up two points from its last 60. They'll never be able to offload some of those wasters - how much are they paying Flo I wonder

:eek:
 
According to The Sun, Bellion is gonna sign by the end of this week. £1m compensation for Sunderland.
 
According to the Official Barclays EPL Website, Bellion has not signed.
 
The addition of Bellion would only make the strikers more competitive to fight for the partnership slot with RVN. I am not too convinced with foreign young players in a big club and hope he doesn't end up like Forlan. I will still go for experience and big match players to partner RVD, especially those with CL and international experience in their CV.
 
Sounds like its just pending the tribunal, so consider it done but just not signed yet, and it shouldn't cost much money, not like he's played for them much. I just hope he's not all pace and no ability - if he's any good why the feck couldn't he get a start at Sunderland who couldn't score for toffee?
 
Originally posted by Candona:
<strong>According to The Sun, Bellion is gonna sign by the end of this week. £1m compensation for Sunderland.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I read somewhere that Bellion can't sign until June, and that the compo is because he's under 23
 
Sunderland were playing him on the wing but it seems that once the rumours about us and his agent saying he was joining us surfaced he never got a look in. Add to that that when McCarthy took over then pacey/skillful players have no chance of a look in.
 
Beeb say he's joined now

<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/3030903.stm" target="_blank">BBC</a>
 
Is this bloke actually any good?
 
Don't know really. He's quick and direct but not seen enough of him to be sure. We've got ex Sunderland reserve team coach at OT so I guess he must rate him. He won't cost much and he's got potential. Wait and see.
 
kf - good point mate... I think the ex-sunderland coach is keen on him and has twisted Alex's arm...

Hes young and has potential... its just a case of wait and see...

does any1 know where sunderlnd poached him from??
 
Bellion has looked very good from the precious little that Shanks has seen of him.

However, one must pose the question, 'Why did he not feature at all for relegation battlers Sunderland?'

Surely he would have wanted to impress any potential suiters?

Shanks thinks that this just highlights the speculation that Bellion DID sign for United in February.
 
Originally posted by Shanks:
<strong>Bellion has looked very good from the precious little that Shanks has seen of him.

However, one must pose the question, 'Why did he not feature at all for relegation battlers Sunderland?'

Surely he would have wanted to impress any potential suiters?

Shanks thinks that this just highlights the speculation that Bellion DID sign for United in February.</strong><hr></blockquote>


He DID feature
 
Originally posted by An Extremely Boring Man:
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He DID feature</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hardly played a prominent role though did he?
 
Originally posted by KidCreole:
<strong>kf - good point mate... I think the ex-sunderland coach is keen on him and has twisted Alex's arm...

Hes young and has potential... its just a case of wait and see...

does any1 know where sunderlnd poached him from??</strong><hr></blockquote>

From Cannes. I have followed his news for a while now. The kid wanna immulate his idol Henry in EPL hence choosing to leave that place after his contract is up. Peter Reid has some contact in France then and managed to snap him up for free ..
 
Originally posted by Neil Thomson:
<strong>Sounds like its just pending the tribunal, so consider it done but just not signed yet, and it shouldn't cost much money, not like he's played for them much. I just hope he's not all pace and no ability - if he's any good why the feck couldn't he get a start at Sunderland who couldn't score for toffee?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree. I think this signing is mainly for potential and for the future. He may not be able to get into our first team immediately. Hope he can develop into a useful player for us in future.