Gut feeling is that lads as big and muscular as him are more likely to have a short career, prone to back problems and so on. Don't have any stats though, might be bollocks.
Unless the Saudis flex their muscles no one will...Seems risky from City. A lot of things could go wrong and then they're stuck with him. Assuming his wages are huge as well.
Kind of depressing from a Liverpool perspective. City can sign 2/3 players in January and tie one of their most important players down long term. Meanwhile we didn't sign anyone apart from a punt on Chiesa in the summer, and won't sign anyone in this window. We're also struggling to commit three of our best players to the club.
Longer term I don't see us competing as much with City.
Not sure if I remember anything about the story correctly, but wasn’t there some link to the city owners acquiring Girona and Pep’s brother somehow also acquiring a stake in the club? Sure, Pep could’ve had ideal conditions to stay at city, but it’s not exactly absurd to think finances have played a big part of that decision.It is pretty much well documented at this point that his burnout at Barcelona that he took a year off from stemmed from the politics in the boardroom in a club he loves and grew up in. And at Bayern there were constant bickering with the higher-ups about players and staff.
At City he has had his mates in the boardroom and pretty much a free reign to do whatever he wants. He has also been immensely succesful without having been under immense pressure by the fans or the board at any point. At Bayern the success of Heynckes last season always lingered.
Married people seperate all the time. In all walks of life. Your arguments is as straw-man as you can get
Of course finances has played a huge part, he is paid huge wages to do what he is best at in conditions tailor made for him. Enough to make anyone stick around.Not sure if I remember anything about the story correctly, but wasn’t there some link to the city owners acquiring Girona and Pep’s brother somehow also acquiring a stake in the club? Sure, Pep could’ve had ideal conditions to stay at city, but it’s not exactly absurd to think finances have played a big part of that decision.
If his motivation stems from putting himself in the shop window we might as well sell him
Of course that is waffle though and like most other elite players in any sport his motivation comes from within to be the best he can be. He isn't Emmanuel Adebayor
This is a fair point. They may well be doing this in an effort to tie down their assets in case they do get relegated to stop them leaving.Don't get how people connect this to city knowing they are getting off lightly.
If they knew they were getting relegated, this is exactly what they'd be doing as well.
In fact, they would do this in any scenario.
I'd generally agree, but not in City's case because they just have too much wealth for it to be an issue. If he gets a career ending injury, as others have said, insurance will cover that. If he turns to shit, either the Saudis will still take him, or City will flog him to one of their myriad feeder clubs for an inflated fee in some sort of underhand deal.I'll never understand those long deals. Very stupid from City.
Yeah, I clearly wasn’t following the conversation well enough, in that case. Of course no one is held against their willOf course finances has played a huge part, he is paid huge wages to do what he is best at in conditions tailor made for him. Enough to make anyone stick around.
The post I responded alluded to that he is held against his will, and that he extends his contracts almost at gun point because he is implicated in our charges or something. Which is absurd whichever way you want to angle it. But especially absurd when you factor in that we have three ex-managers all walking about, one of them Mark Hughes that seem to hate us, which were all part of the club at the time the majority of charges started to stack. Are they all paid off the record to keep their gob shut because they werent good enough and only the succesful are trapped in their contracts? Make it make sense
Not sure what Pere Guardiola has to do with it. His association with Pep is most likely the reason City is in business with him, but he is a succesful business man in his own right. Unless the club would hold his brother stakes in Girona hostage, which also is absurd I'm not sure what the story is
He will not have signed such a long contract without a release clause. Anyway I have no clue what's the point of such long contracts on the club's side, since when the player kicks up a stink or wants out, they'll have to sell him eventually anyway. I don't think anyone believes Haaland will still be at City by 2030.It's either a really stupid or really smart decision by Haaland. He has no clue what sort of salary footballers will be earning in 5 years time and he's taken away his opportunity to try and negotiate a salary that will put him on a par with his future peers. Which seems dumb. But maybe he's decided that, whatever happens, he'll always be a very wealthy man? And a ten year contract sets him and his family up for life, no matter what goes on in his career from now on. Which would be unusually smart for a footballer. So yeah, not sure how to feel about this.
Let's revisit this post in a few months, shall we.Hmmmm. Let me think. Ok, I've given it some thought and the answer is....no.
Told Alfie: make your son sign the contract or Roy Keane will be visiting your house every 5 amIt seems fishy as hell and I wonder what they are offering him to commit to that.
It’s not a loophole around financial rules, and hasn’t been for a couple of years. I’m sure this has been explained many times on the forum, nowWell, it’s a loophole around financial rules as you said. Also it creates a kind of monopoly on players that goes against the Bosman ruling where if things aren’t going great for a player they can run their contract down so it’s easier for them to move on and things like that.
It also potentially puts clubs in financial jeopardy as who knows where a club could be financially in 7 years, whereas a 5 year contract is safer.
I don’t think clubs should be allowed to spend a billion in 12 months either, it’s crazy, but maybe I’m just getting old and grumpy! In other words, the games gone.
Either he knows they wont be punished and remain competitive
Or
He played a blinder and settled for a decade filled with loads of money and regardless of where the club is, he wins at life
Yep, we often don’t even need huge signings, just a player here or there bc the squad has a pressing need but they just refuse to sanction it. Happened in the 2020/21 Covid season.Same thing my scouse mates have been saying since Liverpool vs city was a thing, 5-6 years ago.
Even when they signed Haaland there was an attitude ‘oh for feck sake, what’s the point?’ from them. Shrewd purchases, selling coutinho to fund Allison and Van Dijk, just to watch city spunk their infinite money on the best striker in Europe.
Can definitely relate. It’s the same penny pinching that saw us go from the best side in Europe in 2008/09, to a steady but plodding one in the seasons that followed - getting by on sheer will and the mentality of a few senior players and the manager rather than flare and good football. To eventually one that can’t compete at the top because the level of recruitment just wasn’t up to scratch.Yep, we often don’t even need huge signings, just a player here or there bc the squad has a pressing need but they just refuse to sanction it. Happened in the 2020/21 Covid season.
I’m enjoying this season as it’s a break from a city season but we needed signings in the summer and we need them now too. We aren’t getting them. They have one bad half season and spend 200 mill in January it’s truly revolting. I hated competing with them because we built our squad the right way and they could just spend whatever they wanted.
Once normal service is resumed and they beat these charges it’s going to be grim viewing in this league. I don’t see how any club usurps the spending and wages they can offer under the tables. There’s a reason KDB silvas agueros Rodri etc aren’t ever tempted into moves abroad in their peak
Mind you none of this should excuse our own owners lack of backing. We’ve definitely left titles on the table because we didn’t want to be proactive.
Been saying this for years. We went bargain basement shopping for players and relied heavily on Fergie's genius to get the best out of them, then acted surprised when it all came crashing down once the glue holding it all together retired.Can definitely relate. It’s the same penny pinching that saw us go from the best side in Europe in 2008/09, to a steady but plodding one in the seasons that followed - getting by on sheer will and the mentality of a few senior players and the manager rather than flare and good football. To eventually one that can’t compete at the top because the level of recruitment just wasn’t up to scratch.
The ‘no value in thr market’ era is for me the root of the wilderness years we’re in now. The mismanagement from Woodward after Fergie left is a separate issue, but it all started when we just refused to replace our best players with anybody half decent. Ronaldo and tevez left, Owen and obertan came in. Potential deals for players like hazard, Lucas Moura and benzema were abandoned because they were too expensive. Older players like Giggs, Scholes and Rio were replaced not by top tier talent but by young, cleverley and smalling. And when you take away the manager who somehow made it all work, all you’re left with is a husk of a squad that isn’t good enough.
It’s not enough to rest on your laurels. You’ve got to strengthen even more to stay ahead of the rest, or they’ll catch up. I wonder if a similar thing will happen to you guys, and this void will appear when the likes of Salah and Van Dijk go.
Rest assure he knows exactly what he’s doing ….stupid he ain’tUnless there's a fair few release/sale clauses in there, Haaland is a stupidity person
Rest assure he knows exactly what he’s doing ….stupid he ain’t
Seems like you’ve contradicted yourself here?I can't think of why anyone not stupid would sign a 10 year contract.
It's quite dumb on City's part too. He could put his feet up for the rest of his career from tomorrow
Barcelona is the only option for him at this point. And they don’t have the money.The weird thing is it felt like it was reaching a good time for both parties to go their separate ways. We all know now that Haaland has some serious limitations but his goal scoring has dropped off from what it was too. I figured he'd be moving on for a new challenge possibly this summer. Replacement for Lewandowski at Barcelona maybe.
Seems like you’ve contradicted yourself here?
Got himself one of the biggest deals in football/sporting history, sets himself and family up for life.
Alternatively he doesn’t sign, suffers a career ending injury, then what?
We are on the stock exchange and it generally needs to be known.We sign a nobody and the wages to be paid are plastered everywhere. This, probably the longest and most expensive contract ever, is it? And not even a mention of any money
I think there needs to be a unanimous expelling of them from the league.Yep, we often don’t even need huge signings, just a player here or there bc the squad has a pressing need but they just refuse to sanction it. Happened in the 2020/21 Covid season.
I’m enjoying this season as it’s a break from a city season but we needed signings in the summer and we need them now too. We aren’t getting them. They have one bad half season and spend 200 mill in January it’s truly revolting. I hated competing with them because we built our squad the right way and they could just spend whatever they wanted.
Once normal service is resumed and they beat these charges it’s going to be grim viewing in this league. I don’t see how any club usurps the spending and wages they can offer under the tables. There’s a reason KDB silvas agueros Rodri etc aren’t ever tempted into moves abroad in their peak
Mind you none of this should excuse our own owners lack of backing. We’ve definitely left titles on the table because we didn’t want to be proactive.
Ok, sorry if I missed that. I suppose I would ask, why did the premier league take action against it then? I believe they changed the rules so that clubs couldn’t amortize for longer than 5 years? It shows that they saw Chelsea’s practices as unethical at least.It’s not a loophole around financial rules, and hasn’t been for a couple of years. I’m sure this has been explained many times on the forum, now
No footballer of sound mind would have turned down a contract like he’s been offered.He could always juat sign a shorter contract. 10 years is stupid from both angles. The player has no idea what state the club will be at in 5 years time, whether they'll be happy or settled, who the manager will be.
The club has no idea if the player will even still be bothering to keep himself fit by then. Or he might get a serious injury. Or might become toxic.
There's no realistic way for either party to know what the situation will be even in a few months time with the charges and current form.
There's no contradiction at all. The reason clubs and players don't usually sign 10 year contracts with each other is because there are a lot of reasons why it's dumb. The only advantage is security but you get that with a 4-5 year deal anyway.
Just seems like city making a stupid statement for no apparent reason to me.