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Ronaldinho set for United as Beckham talk grows

Daniel Taylor
Monday June 2, 2003
The Guardian

Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed his interest in Ronaldinho, saying he is "confident" of concluding the Brazilian's transfer, and revealed he also wants to sign Xabi Alonso of Real Sociedad. The two attacking midfielders would cost £35m in total, giving further credence to the suggestion that Manchester United intend to cash in on David Beckham.
A move for the young Spaniard is loaded with complications but Ferguson is entitled to feel increasingly optimistic that Ronaldinho will become the club's first Brazilian player, signing at Old Trafford within the month.

With the transfer window reopening yesterday, United can now open official negotiations with Paris St-Germain but, in truth, the two clubs have had confidential talks for over a year and there are only finer details for Old Trafford's chief executive Peter Kenyon to finalise. United had lined up a £9m bid for Ronaldinho last summer until, in Ferguson's words, "he had a good World Cup, the secret was out and they doubled his value".

After a season of mesmerising football at PSG, yet notable too for his falling-out with the coach Luis Fernandez, Ronaldinho will cost £12m and United's hierarchy have made it clear that Ferguson will have to recoup the money somewhere, particularly if he is serious about Alonso and other targets such as Damien Duff, Harry Kewell and Paul Robinson.

Joan Laporta, a candidate in Barcelona's presidential elections on June 15, has promised Beckham to the Catalans if he is successful.

However, the Barcelona coach Raddy Antic has dismissed the idea that a £30m deal for Beckham is virtually complete. "So far they are rumours and nothing else," he said. "Football isn't like [the Spanish supermarket chain] El Corte Ingles where you go and sign who you like."

If Beckham were to leave - one high-ranking official at Old Trafford has been telling people it is a "done deal" - Real Madrid are a more attractive proposition. Aware of the commercial incentives Beckham's name brings, Real have been negotiating a sponsorship deal with Toyota and the signing of England's captain is understood to have featured in their sales pitch.

Ferguson began a month-long holiday in France yesterday and expects the situation regarding Alonso to be much clearer on his return. Real Madrid also want the 21-year-old, who has been outstanding in La Liga this season.

"His contract runs until 2007 but we have been told there is a £20m buy-out clause," said Ferguson. "But we understand Madrid have offered a down payment of £10m and that they are prepared to let him stay at Sociedad next season."

Ronaldinho's transfer is far closer to completion. PSG can no longer afford to keep the 23-year-old, who will be remembered for the free-kick that put England out of the World Cup.

"I would like to be at a great club like United; anyone would," said Ronaldinho. "They play my sort of football."

Ronaldinho, seen by Ferguson as a deep-lying attacker behind Ruud van Nistelrooy, has told Fernandez's imminent successor Vahid Halilhodzic that he wants to leave.

However, United will also be signing a player with a troublesome reputation. Ronaldinho fell out with Fernandez after being played as a striker then a right-winger rather than as an attacking midfielder and was dropped after smuggling a girl into his hotel room before a match. He refused to be substituted in a Uefa Cup tie and was banished to train by himself after returning five days late from his Christmas break.

Ferguson will not tolerate that sort of behaviour. However, as with Fabien Barthez, Roy Keane and Eric Cantona, he is occasionally prepared to allow some leeway if it means keeping an important player happy.
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When did he say this:

"His contract runs until 2007 but we have been told there is a £20m buy-out clause," said Ferguson. "But we understand Madrid have offered a down payment of £10m and that they are prepared to let him stay at Sociedad next season."

and this:

Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed his interest in Ronaldinho, saying he is "confident" of concluding the Brazilian's transfer.

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Regarding Alonso, why the hell would we want to sign another defensive CM? If it was Baraja they were talking about I might believe it, but Alonso? Good player, but no better than Nicky Butt.
 
Scored a great header from a corner tonight (Alonso) BTW, as the Valencia defence went totally missing.
 
I have the feeling that the guy who wrote this article is thinking up quotes. Never heard this one either: "he had a good World Cup, the secret was out and they doubled his value".
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Hard to swallow that Utd are prepared to pay over-the-top £20 mil for an unknown who'll cost more than Ronaldinho, Kewell, Kluivert, Maakay, etc, yet release their greatest asset Beckham for a mere £30 mil, especially if Milan, Juve etc are also supposedly fighting for his signature! :confused:

If this turns out to be true, there's something wrong going on... :rolleyes:
 
I wouldn't say that he is an "unknown", and he will not cost 20m either, it's paper talk.
 
I mean, the article calls him an attacking midfielder, he isn't!
 
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>I wouldn't say that he is an "unknown", and he will not cost 20m either, it's paper talk.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, he's only 22 I believe, & he's just emerged from nowhere & in the spotlight simply because Real Sociedad is doing well & to be honest, if you pick any 10 football fans on the street, probably only one, if any, would have heard of him before this season. ;)
 
Never heard of this guy and watched him play without even taking much notice of him. 20 mil is like joke of the year for a guy like him. Will do some research on him though
 
Anyway, it's abit strange that SAF came up with quotes like those made, when he usually keeps mum. Best examples were Veron and Ruud(the 1st time round) if my memory is right.

Why would he want to draw attention to Utd's transfer targets? Or is he just playing the bluff? ;)
 
Did the journalist who wrote this actually read it before printing?
Alonso has a 20 million buy out clause.
So then he assumes that that is what it will take to get him. Spanish based players almost always have exorbitant buy out clauses but almost always go for less than that. Figo is about the only Spanish based player i remember going at buy out clause price. I presume if Sociedad win the league he might want to stay on though.
Surprised you rate him so low Weastie, i thought he was supposed to be having a stunning season in Spain,with lots of critics calling for him to be in the international team. A friend of mine who is well into his Spanish football was raving about him long before the link with United as the young Spanish player of the season above Fernando Torres, Reyes and Joaquin. <img src="confused.gif" border="0">