GIGGS IN OR OUT?

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Dear Fellow Reds,

In recent days, speculation regarding our beloved Giggsy has come to a head regarding a possible switch to Inter Milan. His performances so far, and indeed in the last couple of seasons, have been mixed. Putting aside sentiments for our beloved Giggsy aside, should SAF take a cold hard and objective look at strengtening the squad when the transfer window opens in January and cash in on Giggs, eventhough he is such a legend at OT?

IMHO, we've had a decade of wonderful Giggsy memories and have marvelled at his pace and brilliance. Though he's Red through and through, his sporadic brilliance isnt enough for us to sustain a challenge on the Premiership and in Europe over the next few seasons. He's also moving on tho his thirties soon and is, I believe, performing at the peak of his prowess now. At this stage of his carreer, I believe that in the best interest of the club, he should be allowed to leave,but only in some kind of swap deal+ CASH in exchange for a couple of super players from elsewhere. Its is always difficult to part with family, but if SAF proceeds with speculation, then he has my support. I am a firm believer in the overall long term interest of the CLUB, and I think deep down, after much hard and reasoned analysis, SAF will let him go.

What do you think?....
 
Giggs has said he has no plans to go anywhere. He has four more years on his contract and has said he is very happy at United. This has been discussed in other threads, you need to look before you post.

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ManUtd_USA.


What Giggs say or wants United to hear has got no bearing on his future. Ultimately, it will be SAF who will decide on team affairs. Case in point, Jaap Stam. No United player in his right mind would ever want to leave a great club like United. You have certainly missed the point of this discussion. And mind you, if you cant carry on a decent discussion without being dismissive and rude , YOU my friend, should read properly before imposing your will as you seem to rightfully think you are entitled to. Now I didnt mean for a war of words with you, much more if you are a fellow Red, but if I need to, then you better brace yourself...
 
I have read, and you have balls to be suggesting otherwise. I had a longer post originally written but I decided to shorten it and suggest you look at the other post on this same subject.
 
Everybody in this forum has the right to start and post his or her own thread as and when they like and wish to. And what makes you think, you have the right and certainly the authority to direct traffic as you please? If you find this thread repetitive or boring, then go elsewhere. Nobody is forcing you to read this. It is folks like yourself, bent on imposing your will on others that cause so much consternation. Is this disturbing trait common amongst all Americans? or is is just you and your arrogant self?
 
Never said anything about having any authority, that is you ASSuming. And quite wrongly I might add. The idea ( since it went right over your head) was that it was discussed in another thread, and without saying it ( thinking that you might be smart enough to figure it out for yourself, guess I was wrong about that wasn't I?) figured you might want to take it there where it was already being discussed. Thought you might get more response there.
 
And if I should decide to start a thread here and now,repetitive as it maybe, what's it to you? Where does it hurt you? As I've said earlier, (proof again, that you CANNOT read ), if you find that repetition irks you , then shooo..go elsewhere.... please do not suggest nor direct as I didnt ask you to. Comprehend that you little dip.

And oh btw, are you one of the moderators? Whats that? No I hear? Ahhh..another goon ..just as I thought.
 
Hahhaa...

That's like the Pot calling the kettle black aint it? Again,testemant as to your dimwitted-ness. Who called who first? Again,read properly. I started this thread in the friendliest possible manner, only for a goon like you to butt in and take it upon himself to attempt to direct matters. You my friend, are the main protagonist in sullying the friendly mood in here. As I said, you want a war of words, you better brace yourself. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
That is your opinion but I am hardly a newcommer here, unlike yourself and if you keep insulting other members on the Caf like this you might find yourself on the outside looking in. I have not called you one name. I have been logical in my explaination of things. Unfortunately you are not mature enough to see that. I was only suggesting to you that you look at the other forum and take it there because you would get more response there. A mod might come along and look at this and decide that you are antagonizing this whole thing by acting like a know-it-all twat and close it telling you we don't need so many threads on the same topic.
 
Ahh I knew you would leverage on the old timer vs newbie argument. Just for the sake of showing who's the boss around these waters...TYPICAL.

That just it inst it? if you cant win an argument on its own merit then use a little bit of muscle.

Let me establish a few things for you here my dear friend:


NUMBER ONE: If the mods do come along,I will be glad to let them arbitrate on this matter as to who antogonised who first. The facts speak for themsleves.

NUMBER TWO: If the mod do come along, I will be more than happy to take advise from them and them alone. NOT YOU and NOT from anybody else.

NUMBER THREE: ARE YOU ARE MOD? If not I'd suggest you better shut up and stop largin' it as though you were.

FULL STOP.
 
Another Yank ....with another typical supremist mentality. I take no interest from people who call football soccer...

Have you ever kicked a ball before or are you another arm chair bandwagaon hopper fan who only just started supporting United in its recent glory days?

Can you tell me the score that day when we lost to WBA when the likes of Ritchie Cunningham was playing?
 
Better still can you tell me the score and who United played when they claimed the Div1 title in 1956.?
 
bob,

This is atrophying into a farce. Look if you wanna show off your trivial trivia skills why stop at 1956? Why not go back to the first match that Newton Heath played, give me the score, opposition and first eleven on that day?

C'mon just coz you may be there in '56 when we won the championship doesnt make you any redder than the fans who were there at the Nou Camp in 99, so please stop the silly chest thumping ok?
 
Err excuse me but you were the one asking Socal scores.You also accusing Socal of being a yank with a typical supremist mentality.
If you want to be treated with respect, then give it. Just look where Socal comes from....Sale Moor is I think in Cheshire. How would you like it if I accused you of being a condesending Malasian who knows sweet jack shit about football.

Oh and its Mr UKBOB to you.!! :)

Oh yes Newton Heath lost to Blackburn 3-4 in their first match. I remember it was pissing with rain.!
 
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bob or bobb-itt?

Any which way, whats a Brit doing in the US of A anyway? They kicked you out of merry ol eng-er-lund??

Anyway it c-o-n-d-e-s-c-e-n-d-i-n-g and
its M-a-l-a-y-s-i-a-n. Queen's English isn't what it used to be. Sad but true.

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And btw, just because you are English doesnt mean you have intellectual and artistic monopoly over the game.Here's a little bit of fooballing trivia for you bob-it..Football was actually invented In China, and using your benchmark for determining the level of competence with the game,then the Chinese must know a feck all heck of a lot more than you Englishmen. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />


And you remember the Blackburn game do you? Way back in the 19 century..that must make you like..what..200 years old.. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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What about some good "Olde" English. You are the most obnoxious cnut I have seen on here and I am being polite.Ok, now feck off you c-o-n-d-e-s-c-e-n-d-i-n-g arse.
 
mr who-gives-a-bob.

Tsk tsk tsk..such refinement. Such poise. Such Class. And you are calling me obnoxious????

hehehe.. Also, I seem to remember that I started THIS thread, and you are telling me to feck off?? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

Look 'ere you old geezer, if you cant argue something convincingly and leave you undeliable mark of substance around here, why dont YOU get your sagging behind out of here eh? Here have a Budweiser on me. Take it while it cool y'hear. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Yes pretty much like how the white convicts of Australia of yore would with Aborogine heads.

Another sad but true moment in history...
 
Dear redfaction are you sure that youu are a Red Devil through and through?Have a thought and maybe you think you will be better of supporting the arsehole or maybe Livershit.

Melvin Yeo
 
Haha..
Nah never the Gooners nor the fools from Anfield. I 'm red as hell dont you worry bout that.
 
What I am trying to say is give some respect to people
 
Originally posted by redfaction:
<strong>Yes pretty much like how the white convicts of Australia of yore would with Aborogine heads.

Another sad but true moment in history...</strong><hr></blockquote>Wrong,you are confused with "Aussie rules".
 
Ah yes....yes...much better and far better grip on the run. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
 
Melvin,

You certainly view things from a warped perspective. Another case of kow-towing to the Ang Mohs. Read properly and you can see where the animosity started and by whom. You teaching me about respect? The other responses here havent been exactly charitable. Your misplaced sense of self rightousness can be reasoned only by your pre-puberscent manhood. I forgive you...
 
what a twit.. not all " Yanks " are bandwagoners,.. Im a " Yank " and My grandfather and his son, and I are all United Fans since the 30's. So If you don't want to make anymore bad relations here. I'd watch what you said about anyone. It seems you have more than Manchester United on your mind. Possibly what you need is something better to do with your time then stir-up trouble..... <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
RedFaction??? more like red Fraction if you were truely a Red, You'd realize we RED's Stick Together, no matter what race, nationalty, or sex. So if you decide to slag a few of us.. you are going to upset more than you had accounted for.... M.USA and Social both have valid points.. as to where you seem to only have a chip on your shoulder,.. are no one to fight with. <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" /> <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
 
Originally posted by redfaction:
<strong>Yes pretty much like how the white convicts of Australia of yore would with Aborogine heads.

Another sad but true moment in history...</strong><hr></blockquote>

What does that have to do with United!
 
BestGiggs,

Please keep quiet. We dont need your grandfather stories here.....

As I've said earlier, I take no interest in folks that refer to football as sa-cc-er.
 
Originally posted by Lover of Football:
<strong>Played with a human scull as a ball.</strong><hr></blockquote>


What has THIS got to do with Manchester United?

Please dont speak with a forked tonque.
 
This seems to be getting a bit personal, and is already being discussed <a href="http://www.redcafe.info/forum/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010692" target="_blank">here</a>