Froch vs Kessler

Lance Uppercut

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Saturday night in Denmark.

I can't stand Froch, so I'm hoping Kessler beats him like a drum. Although he didn't perform well in his last outing against Ward, which concerns me. That said, I thought Froch was fortunate to get the nod over Dirrell.

Potential fight of the year, at any rate.

On top of that, Adamek goes up against Chris Nipple at Heavyweight later that night. Another fight that promises fireworks.

So who you got?
 
Not sure where I stand with Froch, he can be pretty funny, he's up for testing himself against anyone and tends to feature in exciting fights... but he's fecking deluded at times. Will still be rooting for him this weekend.

Kessler just had an off night against Ward IMO. Froch is a much easier challenge, stylistically. He punches too straight and too accurate for Froch and I reckon he takes it if he stays disciplined. Possibly even stopping him late on. Expecting it be a cracker tho.
 
He deserves credit for taking on tough fights, certainly. I just wish he would shut the feck up about Joe Calzaghe. He's been at it again today.
 
Froch is obsessed with Calzaghe, has been for years and I wish he would shut the feck up about it. I actually like to watch his fights, very rarely are they dull. If he thinks he is as good as Calzaghe ever was then he needs to basically dominate Kessler and I just can't see that happening but its anyones fight.
 
Leg-End said:
Froch is obsessed with Calzaghe, has been for years and I wish he would shut the feck up about it. I actually like to watch his fights, very rarely are they dull. If he thinks he is as good as Calzaghe ever was then he needs to basically dominate Kessler and I just can't see that happening but its anyones fight.
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It is annoying, but I can understand why he does it, as he seemingly can't give his fights away to anyone that matters, it's criminal really that his profile is so low, so he has to really do whatever he can to raise it...and unfortunately Calazghe is the only way he can, as winning fights isn't getting it done
 
Good point, I think Froch definatly feels aggrieved about the lack of profile, especially when you look at other British fighters like Haye. But Calazghe and to a lesser extent Hatton did not actually have that much attention on them until quite late on in their careers (if Hatton doesn't return ofcourse), atleast not globally.
 
What time is this going to be on?

as for Calzaghe was never actually his biggest fan and feel he was slighlty over rated, these so called super fights he had at the end of his career was pathetic and against old men long past their best I mean everybody beats Jones Jnr these days, I always felt he was lucky to get a decision again Eubank who i think only had about 10 days to train and was long past is best and I know Robin Reid beat Calzaghe and never know how he won that fight.
 
Widnes said:
What time is this going to be on?

as for Calzaghe was never actually his biggest fan and feel he was slighlty over rated, these so called super fights he had at the end of his career was pathetic and against old men long past their best I mean everybody beats Jones Jnr these days, I always felt he was lucky to get a decision again Eubank who i think only had about 10 days to train and was long past is best and I know Robin Reid beat Calzaghe and never know how he won that fight.
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:lol:

What? He floored Eubank in the first round and won 10 rounds to 2. How is that "lucky?" Eubank also went on to give Carl Thompson (the only man to defeat David Haye) hell twice at cruiserweight.

As for Robin Reid, close fight, but Calzaghe did enough to win. Watch it again.

The Roid win was meaningless, I agree, but Hopkins (after losing to Joe) went on to win every second of every round against the "next big thing" in Kelly Pavlik.

I think you're being a tad harsh.
 
I used to love watching Calzaghe but his record is undeniably shit for someone with his ability. Kessler is pretty much the only example of him taking on a world class fighter in their prime tbh and whatever the reasons for spending most of his career beating up bums (protective promotion, not wanting to put himself in there against certain fighters or being avoided like he claims Hopkins and RJJ did) it has definitely harmed his legacy.

The Froch bitterness towards him is pretty pathetic really, as is his slating of guys like Khan. I can understand it to some extent given that he's done it all the hard way and still nobody in this country knows who the feck he is but coming across as a bitter bastard in your interviews isn't the way to go about it. He should probably switch promoters for a start.
 
Jeff Lacy was unbeaten and absolutely considered "world class" when they fought. Lacy was favoured by pretty much everyone to not only beat Joe, but to KO him in two or three rounds. He suffered a horrendous beating, and tore his rotator cuff soon after, meaning he was never the same. Revisionists have now deemed the fight worthless and claim "Lacy was always shit." The same people who, at the time, picked Lacy to murder him. :rolleyes:

"Prime" Hopkins absolutely ducked him. He agreed to the fight, only to come back the following day and demand double the money.

Jay Larkin, head of boxing for the American Showtime television, said: "With Bernard you never know. I think he comes to us from outer space sometimes. But a fight against Hopkins is a natural for Wales and we would like it to take place here."

Larkin confirmed that Hopkins last year agreed to a purse of £1.9million to go in against Calzaghe, only to demand double the money the very next day.
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Calzaghe camp chase Hopkins| Sport | This is London

There is also the record 20 defences he made against shitbags at middle. Robert Allen, THREE times? You can also make a serious case that all of Hopkins' biggest wins have come against smaller men who were forced to move up. Tito, Oscar, Winky, Pavlik...

As for Roid, he was fighting hand picked garbagemen and Mexican road sweepers due to the HBO contract from hell, when Joe was calling him out.

My point is basically, you can pick apart any fighter's resume. Calzaghe's is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
Jeff Lacy was unbeaten and absolutely considered "world class" when they fought. Lacy was favoured by pretty much everyone to not only beat Joe, but to KO him in two or three rounds. He suffered a horrendous beating, and tore his rotator cuff soon after, meaning he was never the same. Revisionists have now deemed the fight worthless and claim "Lacy was always shit." The same people who, at the time, picked Lacy to murder him. :rolleyes:

"Prime" Hopkins absolutely ducked him. He agreed to the fight, only to come back the following day and demand double the money.



Calzaghe camp chase Hopkins| Sport | This is London

There is also the record 20 defences he made against shitbags at middle. Robert Allen, THREE times? You can also make a serious case that all of Hopkins' biggest wins have come against smaller men who were forced to move up. Tito, Oscar, Winky, Pavlik...

As for Roid, he was fighting hand picked garbagemen and Mexican road sweepers due to the HBO contract from hell, when Joe was calling him out.

My point is basically, you can pick apart any fighter's resume. Calzaghe's is nowhere near as bad as some would have you believe.
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Yeah but Hopkins and Jones - Jones in particular and rightly so - both get shit about their resumes as well tho. Calzaghe's isn't the worst in the world but if Froch beats Kessler he's well on his way to having a better record. And that's the point I'm trying to make - Calzaghe is miles ahead of Froch in terms of ability but doesn't really have the names on his record to back it up, be it because of circumstance or whatever.

Lacy was a good win and was defo Joe's career defining fight but he's been so unbelievably bad since then that, well, when he's listed as one of your best two or three wins it shows just how thin your record is. Shame because he was elite and a lot of idiots can't look past his resume and realise that.
 
If Froch beats Kessler, that leaves him with Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell and Kessler. And you could easily put an asterix beside three of them.

Taylor - previously KO'd by Pavlik. Since brutally KO'd by Abraham. Froch was getting his ass kicked for most of the fight, was put on his ass, and needed a KO going into the last round to win.

Dirrell - robbery, most people not related to Froch thought Dirrell won. And who has Dirrell ever beaten? Abraham was robbed. :nervous:

Kessler - past his prime, Ward showed he is obviously on the slide.

So you could argue that the (potential) names on his record aren't up to much.

Thus far, I'd say Pascal is his best win. Although there's every chance he could get embarrassed by Dawson next.
 
Probably close to 11 GMT, although I'm not certain. They are blitzing the streams at the minute. I've had three removed already.
 
Got lucky with the Haye stream, be difficult for this one I reckon. Could be a radio job.
 
I just had one seemed to be working decent had a undercard fight on and it it just went off.
 
I really don't want to pay £15 for one fight. But I really want to see it...
 
Someone who's watching has just told me the fight starts in 20 mins. feck.
 
Don't cave in £15 is a pisstake for any fighter other than a superfight
 
I might just avoid the inturdnet until tomorrow and download it in the morning. WAR KESSLER.
 
Froch's arms are obviously longer than the allowed length. Cheating.
 
That was a right old tear up, dont know where the one judge scored it 117-111, no way did Kessler win by 6 rounds. I had it Kessler by one or two, middle rounds Froch just didnt do enough and he lost it there.
 
Leg-End said:
That was a right old tear up, dont know where the one judge scored it 117-111, no way did Kessler win by 6 rounds. I had it Kessler by one or two, middle rounds Froch just didnt do enough and he lost it there.
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If it was kesslers to lose it would have been a draw,just how it goes when you fight away,froch needed a knowdown or to have landed more bigger shots.bad judging on the 117-111 scorecard.
 
close fight froch didn't really put in the effort and maybe kessler shaded it,home advantage swayed it tbf.
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Not in my opinion. But even if that was the case, that evens up the Dirrell decision.
 
Well with Froch's 0 gone I really hope he either starts thinking about actually keeping his hands up or gets a trainer that will force him to change his style. If he had a proper defence he would be a very good jab fighter with his long arms and granite chin.
 
Leg-End said:
Well with Froch's 0 gone I really hope he either starts thinking about actually keeping his hands up or gets a trainer that will force him to change his style. If he had a proper defence he would be a very good jab fighter with his long arms and granite chin.
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He really does fight like a tool. He's been hit so many times in his last four fights, someone is going to crack his chin for good soon. You can't keep taking those sort of shots.
 
I agree, won't be a long career if he carries on like that. I can't for the life of me think why a trainer would not insist on him keeping his hands up, I mean how hard is it to do? I know its his style but he has been found out on the world stage now, change it.
 
No way was that a 117-111 fight, i'm sorry but that guy must've been imbibing more than just a little throughout that.

Frotch was just talking on Fivelive and he was on the whole pretty fair with his comments. Didn't know that he essentially only ahs half an ear drum in one ear which affects his balance mind.
 
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