Forget cisse or Ronaldhino, we should get Rooney.

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it's not all about speed (not that he has not got it, but look at the likes of Henry and Owen, sufferening when there's little space to run into-look when we played them for example).

it's also about instinct and first touch aswell, this kid has the best control I have ever seen in an english forward, the way he just control's very difficult balls coming at speed is a bit like Rivaldo, he just picks them out of the air and slows them right down. He also is very young but mature and very strong, not to mention fast and instintive finishing. Reminds me of Ruud, but they could play together.

Wayne could also play the 1 striker role, and would be elctric during counters, as he takes the piss out of defenders.

I say if we are gonna spend £20+ million on a striker, then why not on a british player, who if under right mangagement (anyone better at brininging superstars through, than fergie and no career threatening injuries, could become the best striker england has produced since piss pot Shearer. In my opinion he already better than one trick owen, and he does not need to rely on a partner as 'Donkey please flick me a ball' Owen.

I know he would be very hard to get, and Moyes would not give up without a fight, but if anyone can buy the best player Brian Clough had at the time, from the man himself,it's Fergie. I say flash the cash and see how long the Everton board can hold on.

David moyes looks like a future United manger in the making if he can nab a CL spot, this and keep the momentum going after.
 
Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>it's not all about speed (not that he has not got it, but look at the likes of Henry and Owen, sufferening when there's little space to run into-look when we played them for example).

it's also about instinct and first touch aswell, this kid has the best control I have ever seen in an english forward, the way he just control's very difficult balls coming at speed is a bit like Rivaldo, he just picks them out of the air and slows them right down. He also is very young but mature and very strong, not to mention fast and instintive finishing. Reminds me of Ruud, but they could play together.

Wayne could also play the 1 striker role, and would be elctric during counters, as he takes the piss out of defenders.

I say if we are gonna spend £20+ million on a striker, then why not on a british player, who if under right mangagement (anyone better at brininging superstars through, than fergie and no career threatening injuries, could become the best striker england has produced since piss pot Shearer. In my opinion he already better than one trick owen, and he does not need to rely on a partner as 'Donkey please flick me a ball' Owen.

I know he would be very hard to get, and Moyes would not give up without a fight, but if anyone can buy the best player Brian Clough had at the time, from the man himself,it's Fergie. I say flash the cash and see how long the Everton board can hold on.

David moyes looks like a future United manger in the making if he can nab a CL spot, this and keep the momentum going after.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I find this idea of working on Rooney very attractive. Your points are compelling and I think, hesitatingly (for I don't so much want anybody else to come) to agree because getting Rooney is like fostering a young talent within our ranks. :D

And I like Moyes too :D
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Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>He's about to sign a new contract and loves everton to bits. This idea is a no go.</strong><hr></blockquote>I thought he'd signed the contract already.
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Originally posted by MauritianRed:
<strong>I thought he'd signed the contract already.</strong><hr></blockquote>

He's in the process of changing agents, so the deal is to be concluded in the coming weeks.
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There's no reason we couldn't buy Rooney, but I doubt it would be for another few years.
 
Rooney would be a good buy, though it would take an exorbitant fee to prize him away...with him being a lifelong Everton fan and all... That said, at some point that lad will have hopes of playing in the CL and will also want to increase his visibility for the national squad.
 
No player in his right mind could resist when United come knocking, think of it......
... the chance to play in a team where you get ten good chances every match?
Rooney would jump at the chance!
 
i don't think the everton board will refuse, an offer of 20+ million, when you consider the market rate and there debts. He makes a crap team (well technically crap)look miles better, he would be an added boost for us and have the future sorted in that department.

I say Rooney number 1 target, Cisse number 2 on the list.

The manager does not always have the say, look at leeds situation, if u flash enough cash the board will sanction the transfer.
 
if that Eufa rule gets implemented, then we could outbid anyone for Rooney.
 
Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>i don't think the everton board will refuse, an offer of 20+ million, when you consider the market rate and there debts. He makes a crap team (well technically crap)look miles better, he would be an added boost for us and have the future sorted in that department.

I say Rooney number 1 target, Cisse number 2 on the list.

The manager does not always have the say, look at leeds situation, if u flash enough cash the board will sanction the transfer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Rooney is not nearly as developed as Cisse is at this stage. Cisse is a bonafide speed merchant who could easily churn out 20 goals a year if he had a consistent starting role. We need that type of player to work alongside Ruud. Solskjaer isn't going to be around to bail us out forever.
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Love to see it happen but it for a while at least

i love his cockyness

See highlights of a game with him in the other day

He was on the edge of box with the ball and he just stopped and stood there (thought someone had paused the tv feed)
The defender looked confused went for him and he jink pass him


:D
 
Originally posted by Red Pat:
<strong>No player in his right mind could resist when United come knocking, think of it......
... the chance to play in a team where you get ten good chances every match?
Rooney would jump at the chance!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Unless your name is Alan Shearer

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Ronaldinho has better control and better ball skills than Rooney and I really don't see Rooney quiting reaching Ronaldinho's levels of creativity and flair, but Rooney is certainly a great prospect. Personally, he seems to have all the qualities of a great player for the future - strength, pace and finishing. His shot is quite lethal as well and he would be a fantastic out and out striker.
 
i think it is silly to have shevchenkov ot partner Rudvan.Carlos Ancleotti uses only one striker and think both shevhenko and Ingzagi(a box player like Rud Van) are not effective if they operate in parallel which is true.
How can shvechenko work with Rud Van?
I'll go for Ronaldihno or Klose.
Today worlds best strikers are Ronaldo,Raul,Crespo,Saviola,Owen,Ingzagi,Kluviert,Shevchenko,Vieri,montella,Delpiero,Henry,Trezgeut and co.
We should get a world class striker to partner Rud Van not kids like Beatie or Roonie and (international superflops & premiership kings) players like Shearer,Bellamy,DiCanio and co.
 
Roony's goal against blackburn yesterday was amazing, he prooved against us that he can make any defense look shite, but i still dont know if he could do it at europen level as this current time. Wait a couple of years and he will be fully developed etc. I doubt everton will be able to turn down 20million for him, they only just managed 2 sign that Yobo.
 
I think every club would like to get hold of Rooney, major prospect. We are no different, but he loves his club...

Le Tissier anyone?

He is probably perfect for what we need. A backup for Ruud, who can also partner him on occasion. This means we need a youngster not a world class player, someone who will be second fiddle to Ruud.

Cisse may not come to play a bit role...same with all top players. We're gonna have to go down that squadplayer or youngster route again :(

Rooney will be class, but 20+ million? are you mad? he is a kid for crying out loud. this isnt championship manager, you have to think of the repurcussions. imagine the pressure on the lad, and then what if he struggles? it might destroy him.

I'd love it if we got him, but it wont happen. I think these West Ham players may be available pretty soon (Defoe anyone?)
 
Nice one Shaolin.

All these people asking for [insert flavour of the month here] - Ronaldinho, Shevckenko etc...

Why do you think we love Ruud? Because he's a red. Why do you think we love Diego? Because we can see him becoming a red right in front of our eyes. Why do we argue about Veron? Because he isn't a red (at least, not yet but we have hope).

We need to sign a bloody-minded player, with aggresson, determination as well as skill - someone who will become a red. It's what distinguishes a United player from say, an Arsenal-type don't-like-it-in-their-face player, and I don't believe these glory boys are the type we need.

As for Rooney, too young to put the expectation on him, if there's one thing Fergie knows, it's how not to put too much pressure on young players. So forget about Rooney - let's see if he makes it then maybe when he's 20, let's go in with a massive bid).
 
I say we ger robinho and Diego from Santos. To brilliant forwards with more skill and all the hall marks of Rooney plus only aged 17 and 19 and are BRAZILLIAN&gt; Not to mention their are considered the Bigestt thing since PELE. Both would suiut Rudd down to the ground and are able to play on either wing. Why doesn't ferhgie get them and build them into starts ala scjhoels, Becks in the process rebuilding our stike team for the next decade. That way United CAN avoid being the most HATEd club in Britain for stealing Rooney from Everton incase we got him and he flopped at OT. Whad ya think? HMMM? :cool:
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>I think every club would like to get hold of Rooney, major prospect. We are no different, but he loves his club...

Le Tissier anyone?

He is probably perfect for what we need. A backup for Ruud, who can also partner him on occasion. This means we need a youngster not a world class player, someone who will be second fiddle to Ruud.

Cisse may not come to play a bit role...same with all top players. We're gonna have to go down that squadplayer or youngster route again :(

Rooney will be class, but 20+ million? are you mad? he is a kid for crying out loud. this isnt championship manager, you have to think of the repurcussions. imagine the pressure on the lad, and then what if he struggles? it might destroy him.

I'd love it if we got him, but it wont happen. I think these West Ham players may be available pretty soon (Defoe anyone?)</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree, except for the part about Cisse playing a bit part I could see him playing a major role myself (Ole is getting older). Defoe however would be awesome being at just the right stage of development IMO
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Originally posted by gulli_G:
<strong>it's not all about speed (not that he has not got it, but look at the likes of Henry and Owen, sufferening when there's little space to run into-look when we played them for example).

it's also about instinct and first touch aswell, this kid has the best control I have ever seen in an english forward, the way he just control's very difficult balls coming at speed is a bit like Rivaldo, he just picks them out of the air and slows them right down. He also is very young but mature and very strong, not to mention fast and instintive finishing. Reminds me of Ruud, but they could play together.

Wayne could also play the 1 striker role, and would be elctric during counters, as he takes the piss out of defenders.

I say if we are gonna spend £20+ million on a striker, then why not on a british player, who if under right mangagement (anyone better at brininging superstars through, than fergie and no career threatening injuries, could become the best striker england has produced since piss pot Shearer. In my opinion he already better than one trick owen, and he does not need to rely on a partner as 'Donkey please flick me a ball' Owen.

I know he would be very hard to get, and Moyes would not give up without a fight, but if anyone can buy the best player Brian Clough had at the time, from the man himself,it's Fergie. I say flash the cash and see how long the Everton board can hold on.

David moyes looks like a future United manger in the making if he can nab a CL spot, this and keep the momentum going after.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Agree, fully about Moyes. He has the charisma and drive to be a top manager. Part of SAf's sucess IMO is his charisma and charm, players respect him and want to be in his team. Moyes needs big time experience though, if he can get some at Everton well then that achievement almost qualifies him in itself.

Can't see Rooney leaving for another season, probably two. Then he should be able to ensure first team in a big club, for now his value and experience are best improved at Everton- same old story.
What I like about him aside from the usual skills, is his ruggedness and then he looks like a smart player(perfect for United), like the goal against Blackburn.
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Originally posted by nickm:
<strong>Nice one Shaolin.

All these people asking for [insert flavour of the month here] - Ronaldinho, Shevckenko etc...

Why do you think we love Ruud? Because he's a red. Why do you think we love Diego? Because we can see him becoming a red right in front of our eyes. Why do we argue about Veron? Because he isn't a red (at least, not yet but we have hope).

We need to sign a bloody-minded player, with aggresson, determination as well as skill - someone who will become a red. It's what distinguishes a United player from say, an Arsenal-type don't-like-it-in-their-face player, and I don't believe these glory boys are the type we need.

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So Ruud is a red because he is playing well, Forlan, because he is playing much better. And maybe Veron because he is now playing well?

As for Arsenal's glory boys, I think we'd be very happy to have Viera, Henry, or Pires at OT. Viera seems pretty in your face to me.

Our recent signings have included Veron, Rio and Ruud. All high profile and very expensive, and world class.
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Shouldn't this thread be called "Forget cisse and Ronaldhino, we should get Rooney"? Or is it being implied that we should sign Rooney and (Cisse or Ronaldhino)?
 
It's no wonder people become ABUs when they read some of the posts on here (or any other United forum for that matter). Buy Rooney, buy Duff, buy Roanaldo. Is there any consideration that players may not want to come, that boards may not want to sell or that we haven't the money. It all appears to revolve around the fact that 'We are Mnachester United, therefore the player will definitely come and the board of his club will be forced to sell'. Are we now that arrogant that we believe we can buy a championship whenever we want and that world class players will join us to warm the bench or, worse still, force existing United stars to warm the bench.
 
He is such a physical guy and could be burned out by 25 or 26
 
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