Gaming FM Owner Experiment | Season 6 underway

Solius

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Ok let's go. I'll aim for 10 seasons and then done. See who can get their club to rise to the top.

The season will have three stages where the game stops and you may use actions.

During each stop/stage you must let me know any intentions to sack/hire, or sign a player as it will have an impact if another player also goes for the same manager/player. You may do this publicly in the thread or via PM to me. The changes will be announced in the thread once settled.

Stage 1: Summer Window

This is the start of the game and all future summer windows (so July 1st-ish).

Owners can:
  • Purchase one player for their in-game value (if they are something like 50 - 70m it will be the middle point, so 60m) if the club has the money. Player ability may not exceed 5 CA of current best player (i.e if your best player is rated 133 CA, maximum you can buy is 138 CA)
  • Sell one player in the team for their in-game value. (I will move them to an interested club or just randomise it if no interest) You may also sell the one player to another Caf owner if you can agree on a price.
  • Decide whether to inject money into the transfer/wage budgets.
  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)
  • Upgrade facilities
  • Request league player stats or player screens (I will be using a skin that hides any CA/PA and the 1-20 stats so you will need to go on form for unknowns)

Stage 2: Christmas

Around Christmas Day to New Year.

Owners can:
  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Request league player stats or player screens
  • Inject any funds into the transfer/wage budget.
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)

Stage 3: Early April

Around end of March to early April, just before any potential run-ins.

Owners can:

  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Request league player stats or player screens
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)

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Manager sackings/hirings rules

- May only sack twice during a season. Cannot do so in all three windows.
- May only appoint a manager at max 300 higher than your club's current rep. (Can stretch higher but every 100 higher in rep they are is £10m compensation. To a max of 500 more rep.)
- Compensation if they're at a club = their rep doubled in millions plus their remaining wage for their contract (i.e 8500 rep manager on 200k a week with a year left = £8.5m x 2 (17m) plus £200k x 52 (10.4m) = a total of £27.4m to appoint that manager.
- Their wage will carry over from what it is at their current club.
- If you wish to hire a manager currently at another Caf owner's club, you must negotiate that with them.

Player signing rules

- You only have input on the one summer signing.
- Player ability may not exceed 10 CA of current best player (i.e if your best player is rated 133 CA, maximum you can buy is 143 CA) - I can tell you what parameters you are working with, and if you request a player who is out of that range I'll just let you know it's not possible.
- You may request top scorer stats, assist stats, etc.. for leagues but I'm assuming for the first few years at least you'll have players in mind so don't swarm me with requests if it can be helped.
- All other ability stats won't be shown with the skin I'll use.
- You may just ask me to find you a player in which case I'll just randomly pick someone in that range if you give me maybe a few things like position and age range you would prefer.
- If you want a player from another Caf owned team you must negotiate with that owner.
- Your AI manager will negotiate the rest of your buys/sales.

Upgrading Facilities

You may upgrade the facilities in the summer window.

Costs are:

4567891011121314151617181920
Training Facilities100K200K400K750K1M2M5M8M15M25M50M80M115M140M190M250M350M
Youth Facilities50K100K150K300K500K750K1M2M5M10M30M75M90M110M150M175M225M
Junior Coaching50K100K150K300K500K750K1M2M5M10M30M50M70M100M120M150M175M
Youth Recruitment25K50K300K500K1M2M5M8M10M20M40M70M100M125M150M200M250M


These are incremental, so if you already have a level 14 training facility it will only cost you the £30m between £50m and £80m to upgrade to 15. If your facilities decline, it will only cost 10% of that initial level to re-upgrade. So £35m to go back to the top training facilities (£350m cost), for example. And if you have in training facilities and want to jump straight to 20 it will cost you £350m.

Stadium capacity increases are also incremental.


15k20k25k30k35k40k45k50k55k60k65k70k80k90k100k
Stadium10M20M30M75M150M200M250M300M400M550M800M1BN1.2BN1.5BN2BN


Other things to note

- I cannot guarantee the AI wont do stuff during the sim process. Managers might be auto sacked/hired. Facility upgrades might happen, etc.. If this does happen it won't come out of your budget and in the case of a manager being hired you may sack them without it being part of your two sackings a season quota. I will try to have them on long term frozen contracts so it's harder for AI to fire them but no guarantees.
- If you do not regularly participate, the game cannot really work. Only sign up if you have the time please. It shouldn't take too much of it but you'd need to be around during each update (I will tag you) so you can make any decisions. If the game moves on without you contributing a couple of times I will replace you.

We had a lot of bidding. Mainly around Sunderland but eventually some dropped out and 5 clubs found new owners. They are:

@altodevil - Has purchased Sunderland for a whopping £317m.
@SilentWitness - Paid a measly £19.5m for Bolton Wanderers.
@The Cat & @BenitoSTARR - Coughed up £71m and now own Derby County.
@Samid & @nimic - Found £24m down the back of their sofa for Ipswich Town.
@BD & @sebsheep - Went big and bought Sheffield Utd for £148.5m

Owner money:


OwnerClubPurchased forMoney remaining
altodevilSunderland£317m£1,683,000,000
BD & sebsheepSheffield Utd£148.5m£1,851,500,000
Samid & nimicIpswich£24m£1,976,000,000
SilentWitnessBolton£19.5m£1,985,500,000
TheCat & BenitoDerby£71m£1,929,000,000

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Here are your team details at game start:


OwnerClubDivisionReputationStadium SizeAvg AttendanceBank BalanceTransfer BudgetWage BudgetTraining FacilitiesYouth FacilitiesJunior CoachingYouth Recruitment
BD & sebsheepSheffield UtdPrem620032,60928,654£8,113,358£500,000£709,39313121215
altodevilSunderlandChampionship590048,70738,915£6,810,288£7,000,000£299,08818171414
Samid & nimicIpswichChampionship565030,31126,184£5,166,264£200,000£402,81614141212
SilentWitnessBoltonLeague One525028,72318,814£3,210,854£0£154,99915131313
The Cat & BenitoDerbyLeague One540033,59727,259£7,349,212£0£209,44017151515


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Please let me know anything you want to action before the season starts:

Stage 1: Summer Window

This is the start of the game and all future summer windows (so July 1st-ish).

Owners can:
  • Purchase one player for their in-game value (if they are something like 50 - 70m it will be the middle point, so 60m) if the club has the money. Player ability may not exceed 5 CA of current best player (i.e if your best player is rated 133 CA, maximum you can buy is 138 CA)
  • Sell one player in the team for their in-game value. (I will move them to an interested club or just randomise it if no interest) You may also sell the one player to another Caf owner if you can agree on a price.
  • Decide whether to inject money into the transfer/wage budgets.
  • Sack the manager & hire a new one.
  • Take money out of the club bank balance (to add back to your personal one)
  • Upgrade facilities
  • Request league player stats or player screens (I will be using a skin that hides any CA/PA and the 1-20 stats so you will need to go on form for unknowns)
With regards to player transfers I cannot police it but I would ask you in the spirit of the game not to check player CA/PA online.

There's also no stats available at the start of the first season so there's nothing really to look at. You'll need to use your own knowledge and I'll tell you if the CA is in your range.
 
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Solius

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You are all also allowed to post anything in here too. Doesn't have to all be by PM unless you're trying to be super secret.
 

SilentWitness

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I'm going to play sly until I see how this first window plays out. :lol:
 

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You are all also allowed to post anything in here too. Doesn't have to all be by PM unless you're trying to be super secret.
Finally we can all laugh at alto paying over the odds for a shit club.

Did you enjoy the video?
 

Solius

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Slight adjustment to the rules for a transfer. The player may only be 5 CA above your best player. Not 10. That's too high on second look.
 

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Slight adjustment to the rules for a transfer. The player may only be 5 CA above your best player. Not 10. That's too high on second look.
So we keep providing targets until you tell us that's inside 5 I guess?
 

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So we keep providing targets until you tell us that's inside 5 I guess?
Yeah basically. Can't think of a better method.

Once the seasons start you'll have stats and top scorers to go from too.
 

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@Solius for the second season are we able to make it so the summer window is from sometime in June? IIRC that's when promotion/demotion wage rises and drops happen so would be good to adjust the wage budget then if needed so a club doesn't sit in the red potentially and then sack a manager.
 

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Yeah basically. Can't think of a better method.

Once the seasons start you'll have stats and top scorers to go from too.
Why don't you just tell us the highest CA we have, just don't say the player
 

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Then you can do a shortlist every window that fits the brief that we can pick from
 

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@Solius for the second season are we able to make it so the summer window is from sometime in June? IIRC that's when promotion/demotion wage rises and drops happen so would be good to adjust the wage budget then if needed so a club doesn't sit in the red potentially and then sack a manager.
Yeah that sounds fine.
 

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Why don't you just tell us the highest CA we have, just don't say the player
Then you can do a shortlist every window that fits the brief that we can pick from
I think once it gets a season or two in it won't be that difficult as the majority will be in your range. I'm not sure I can do a shortlist if I'm not a manager in-game (set as unemployed)
 

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Apologies if you've mentioned and I've failed to notice when reading but which leagues do you have loaded up?
 

Solius

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Apologies if you've mentioned and I've failed to notice when reading but which leagues do you have loaded up?
England - League One and up
Spain, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Portugal - Top divisions
Scotland, Brazil, Argentina - View Only
 

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This looks very entertaining! Hope we will get some posts and updates from you all in here!
 

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alto you header
 

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I'm finishing work soon so won't have FM up til tomorrow to check any manager/player CAs but let me know some lists maybe and I'll check them all in the morning. Hopefully we can sim the first part tomorrow!

I'll ping over your CA starting points for players and managers so you have something to go off.
 

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Looking forward to it! Interested to see how others play and if they start cautious (which I think I have) or if they go balls deep.
 

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Looking forward to it! Interested to see how others play and if they start cautious (which I think I have) or if they go balls deep.
Mind games starting already I see
 

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I think to get out of League 1 you won't need to really. Famous last words. :wenger:



As co-owner of Derby I can confidently say spending as much money as possible early on with reckless abandon never ever comes and bites you in the ass.
 

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As co-owner of Derby I can confidently say spending as much money as possible early on with reckless abandon never ever comes and bites you in the ass.
I'm trusting my new manager to get the job done. :nervous:
 

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Still can’t believe you went for Sunderland for that price. No vision just want an easy ride.
It will cost you ~250m to match my facilities. So really we spent the same, except I am a division higher.
 

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It will cost you ~250m to match my facilities. So really we spent the same, except I am a division higher.
Wouldn't even bother upgrading if I was Derby.
Would also get Rooney back as manager.
 

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We're thinking bigger than Rooney
 

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It will cost you ~250m to match my facilities. So really we spent the same, except I am a division higher.
For us:
£50m to match training
£35m to match youth
£225m to have a better stadium than you.

For you
It will cost you £50m to match our coaching and recruitment (the more important ones for youth development). You’ll have higher wage costs and operational costs meaning the loss in budget early on on purchasing means less initial money available to invest sustainably elsewhere.

Plus you’re now owner of Sunderland, BTEC Newcastle.

Our club has a rich history and me and @The Cat never even wanted Sunderland we just wanted you to pay more.
 

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I'm assuming that with any new manager or our single transfer target pick the manager or player can't turn us down?

Would go on forever otherwise.
 

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I'm assuming that with any new manager or our single transfer target pick the manager or player can't turn us down?

Would go on forever otherwise.

Nope you’d only not get them if you were outbid by another player.