Floyd Landis tests positive

Can't say I'm surprised.

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Landis gives positive drugs test

Tour de France winner Floyd Landis has given a positive drugs test, according to his Phonak team.

The American, who claimed victory in the Tour de France on Sunday, has tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone.

The positive test came after stage 17 of the Tour, which saw Landis record an epic victory after collapsing on the final climb the day before.

Landis has been suspended pending results of his B sample analysis.

The International Cycling Union (UCI) announced on Wednesday that a rider had failed a doping test but would not reveal his name.

"The Phonak Cycling Team was notified on Wednesday by the UCI of an unusual level of testosterone/epitestosterone ratio in the test made on Floyd Landis after stage 17 of the Tour de France," said a team statement.

"The team management and the rider were both totally surprised of this physiological result.

"The rider will ask in the upcoming days for the counter analysis (B sample) to prove either that this result has come from a natural process or that this is the result of a mistake."

Phonak have also said that if the second sample confirms the positive test, Landis will be sacked.

Landis had already withdrawn from two races in Europe this week, Wednesday's Acht van Chaam street race in the Netherlands and Thursday's Jyske Bank Grand Prix in Denmark.

"Today, Phonak confirmed the cancellation. They could not say anything about why Landis has disappeared," said Jyske Bank Grand Prix spokesman Nils Finderup.

"We have tried to call him, to call his agent, and to call the head of the Phonak team, but no one has answered."

Organisers of the Acht van Chaam event were also angry at Landis' no-show.

"We have tried to contact Floyd and his manager but we have not been able to," said race agent John van den Akker.

"We are very annoyed. We have invested a lot of money to ensure his appearance and we would have expected some kind of explanation."

Landis finished 57 seconds ahead of Spain's Oscar Pereiro in the general classification to claim his first Tour de France title last weekend.
 
Already knew yesterday. He was in the Netherlands for a race yesterday when all of a sudden he left the country in a pannic without saying a word to anyone.

fecking bastard.....

It's hard to see how do sport can survive this.
 
He's Lance the druggies friend, who actually thought Landis wasn't using drugs?
 
utdalltheway said:
interesting development.

we'll see how this plays out. how fcuked up is cycling now?
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Less fecked up than for example Athletics….

It’s just that there is far more money involved in professional cycling so the stakes are far higher.

Anyway, Alonso and Nadal are supposed to be on that list of the Spanish Doctor and he even claims that he has drugged whole Spanish football teams so that scandal is going to affect far more sports then just cycling. Watch this space…..
 
The American, who claimed victory in the Tour de France on Sunday, has tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone.


Interesting. Wouldn't every male on this planet test positive for testosterone?
 
MrMarcello said:
The American, who claimed victory in the Tour de France on Sunday, has tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone.


Interesting. Wouldn't every male on this planet test positive for testosterone?
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Yes thats what I was thinking.....hhhmmmm:confused:
 
MrMarcello said:
The American, who claimed victory in the Tour de France on Sunday, has tested positive for the male sex hormone testosterone.


Interesting. Wouldn't every male on this planet test positive for testosterone?
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having testosterone isn't the issue. just the amount of it. larger than avg amounts bring on suspicions of doping.
 
Everyone who saw his comeback on the 17th stage must have realised that something was wrong, it was totally unatural.

Anyway, it`s a good thing that the cheaters are caught.
 
Couple of things

Testosterone is not a drug, it is a hormone that is found the body that serves several functions. Many things can cause a rise in its levels...... possibly his colapse the previous day
Its effects are not immediate, and take time to have effect, or produce an ehancement. Hence the 17th stage stuff is probably coincedence tbh.

I take it the B sample is a smaple taken from before the race or something, so they have something to compare it with???? (high levels before would indicate some dodgy going on, and a non-'spurious' result)
 
So if high levels of testosterone are bnned what about high levels of things like creatine?
 
Munch said:
So if high levels of testosterone are bnned what about high levels of things like creatine?
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From what i remember creatinine is related to muscle mass (up mass, up creat), and goes up with muscle damge etc.
Dopers take non physiological levels (i.e. v high) of supplement to enhance muscle formation etc. ( i think)
 
skillz said:
Couple of things

Testosterone is not a drug, it is a hormone that is found the body that serves several functions. Many things can cause a rise in its levels...... possibly his colapse the previous day
Its effects are not immediate, and take time to have effect, or produce an ehancement. Hence the 17th stage stuff is probably coincedence tbh.

I take it the B sample is a smaple taken from before the race or something, so they have something to compare it with???? (high levels before would indicate some dodgy going on, and a non-'spurious' result)
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The doping authorities don’t have the technology to trace doping. However, riders are tested all the year round to check what their natural levels of testosterone, red blood corpuscle (for EPO), etc. etc.
If a result shows an unnatural peak then they know somebody has been messing about and it is seen as a positive test.
In no other sport is doping testing as advanced as with cycling. That's the irony of the thing.

If Landis normally had naturally high levels then he wouldn’t have tested positive in the first place.
Landis really doesn’t have much of a case, the stupid man.
 
But my point is severe physical exhaustion under-anaerobic conditions can cause a increrase in testosterone that would cause a "positive result". (Its been a long time since i did physiology, but I found this http://www.springerlink.com/openurl.asp?genre=article&issn=1439-6319&volume=49&issue=3&spage=389
Also just a quick read through shows that the only +ve result he has is testosterone. No other findings were there. They do and can check for various doping agents, at low levels, but the technique is not 100% hence the tight control of testing.
I just think it is harsh to accuse some one for what is described as a "physiologically" high level (i.e. no soo high that it is obviously due to exogenous manipulation) with out investigating further.
 
skillz said:
Couple of things

Testosterone is not a drug, it is a hormone that is found the body that serves several functions. Many things can cause a rise in its levels...... possibly his colapse the previous day
Its effects are not immediate, and take time to have effect, or produce an ehancement. Hence the 17th stage stuff is probably coincedence tbh.

I take it the B sample is a smaple taken from before the race or something, so they have something to compare it with???? (high levels before would indicate some dodgy going on, and a non-'spurious' result)
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Spot on if he did take testosterone he should be banned but as skillz pointed out there is no way it caused him to break away from the pack like he did in that stage.
 
Landis B Sample is also positive, gonna be stripped of title and banned for 2 yrs prob
 
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