Fernando Alonso is the World Champion

Keane16

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Fair play to him.....but on the other hand...meh.

I don't know, obviously he's brilliant, he just hasn't excited me very much. It was a steady run to the Championship though, they can't all be cliff-hangers, he did what he had to do and that's a brilliant trait to have at his age in this sport. They keep saying it's 'maturity', not something on which I can comment.

Let's hope the gloves come off good and proper in Japan - there's still the constructor's championship to think about - but I hope Fernando, Juan and Kimi have a right go at each other at least.
 
Keane16 said:
Fair play to him.....but on the other hand...meh.

I don't know, obviously he's brilliant, he just hasn't excited me very much. It was a steady run to the Championship though, they can't all be cliff-hangers, he did what he had to do and that's a brilliant trait to have at his age in this sport. They keep saying it's 'maturity', not something on which I can comment.

Let's hope the gloves come off good and proper in Japan - there's still the constructor's championship to think about - but I hope Fernando, Juan and Kimi have a right go at each other at least.
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Yeah, Fernando won without actually doing anything. He has kept his car on the track and managed to pull wins when the Macs broke down. Was more a case of McLaren losing the championship the current point system where wins aren't awarded isn't very good. This is also the reason why most in the F1 business have been talking about Kimi and not Alonso all year, as well, there has been only one driver who has impressed this year. Alonso is there with Villenueve, Hill...champions who no-one will remember.

Best thing I saw all year was when Kimi broke his engine in practice, knew he had to start 10 positions behind and stuffed the car full of fuel. Despite that he took the pole..

What was most comical this season was that Alonso was saying Kimis car was breaking down because he was pushing Kimi so hard :lol: As if Kimi would feel pressure from a man constantly 30 seconds to 1 minute behind.
 
As you said fair play to him and he does come across as top fella. With regards to excitement Kimi is the man for me.
 
Yeah this year has been about McLaren's woeful realiability once again, throwing it away with the best car and the best driver.

Alonso is basically the lucky guy who feeds off the scraps after Kimi suffered from reliability problems bar the start of the season.
 
ahh here, lads...he's a bit better than that now.

All I'm saying is that he went into lead preservation mode from way out, partly I suppose because he was able to.

He's still a top top driver though, I wouldn't take anything away from him.
 
Alonso even tops Schumi in the arrogance ranking.
 
Abbsta said:
I'm surprised at that. Most reporters claim that he is one of the nicest.
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I read an interesting article in the paper today (Kevin Eason, The Times)...anyway, the gist of it is that although Alonso is a national hero in Spain and some kind of deity in Oviedo, there is no such reciprocation on his part. The writer reckons that he's held on to some kind of bitterness and has developed a bit of an aversion to those opportunists jumping on the bandwagon back in Spain. I'd venture to say that he's very strong-willed and strong-minded, as a 23 year old World Champion is likely to be, but arrogant?...don't know...maybe some take it that way.
 
This thread arrived somewhat after the non-event that it was
 
I've never seen anything like it, a Spanish driver wins the F1 World Championship and the whole country goes nuts. They're all spackers.

The Irish would probably do the same if they had an F1 World Champion as well mind. ;)
 
While comparing Alonso and Kimi, one also has to take into consideration Kimi is in a better car, although with reliability problems. Would have been interesting to see how Alonso would have fared in Mclaren as in better than Kimi or not.
 
crappycraperson said:
While comparing Alonso and Kimi, one also has to take into consideration Kimi is in a better car, although with reliability problems. Would have been interesting to see how Alonso would have fared in Mclaren as in better than Kimi or not.
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You mean that the Mac is the faster car. The cars reliability problems cost Kimi the WDC. He was constantly the fastest driver out there until the car let him down, usually it let him down even before the race. Now you could argue like the spanish media does i.e. that Kimi brakes the car because he is driving to hard. This is however F1, the drivers are there to push the car to the absolute limit and stay on track. Kimi did so, he took the car to the limit and stayed on track constantly. The manufacturers are to build a car that tolerates this. Driving around like a passenger like Alonso isn't that difficult. The Renault was better than the rest so he merely had to stay on the track while the McLarens selfdestructed.

As for comparing the two, let ferrari do it for you. There is probably a reason why Ferrari are doing everything in their power to get Kimi and not the youngest WDC ever Alonso..
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
As for comparing the two, let ferrari do it for you. There is probably a reason why Ferrari are doing everything in their power to get Kimi and not the youngest WDC ever Alonso..
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I didn't know that. I tought they were just after Massa.
 
Looking Busy said:
It will be more exciting. All the cars are built to the same specification so it's a true drivers championship
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well...and teams. I agree in principle though.

If SkySports are involved, it's got a decent chance of catching on, especially as the bulk of it will be in the F1 off-season.

It could become quite a viable series, they just need to keep it true to their roots, keep it cheap, and not introduce any gimmicks.
 
Abbsta said:
I didn't know that. I tought they were just after Massa.
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Nah theyve got massa to replace Rubens, but there trying to get Kimi for when his mclaren contract runs out, basically as a replacement for schumacher.

On a different note Alonso is an arragant cnut, sticking fingers up to represent the amount of wins he's had, that pissed me off especially considering half his wins were undeserved. Kimi is far better and thats why he can put a car full of fuel on pole by quite a margin over alonso.
 
from the BBC

Renault lead McLaren 176-174, but Alonso played down its significance.

"I can't ask for more from a season - if win the constructors' it's okay, if not, it's okay too," he said.

"It's important for the image of the team and a little bit for the hype for next year but really not a crucial point."

McLaren have won the last six races with Kimi Raikkonen claiming four of those victories to take his season's tally to seven wins compared with Alonso's six.

However, Alonso said the Finn's recent dominance does not put him under any extra pressure.

"I don't care how many the others win - if everything stays like this I will be happy because I won only one race less than the best car in Formula One," he said.
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I'm not one to go around taking the media as gospel, but silly mind games or not, that's gimpish.
 
Keane16 said:
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I'm not one to go around taking the media as gospel, but silly mind games or not, that's gimpish.
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It is certainely interesting how the McLaren is hyped up, especially by Alonso, it might be the fastest car, in the same time it is also the sole reason Kimi did not win the championship as Kimi didn't really make any mistakes. In the same time the reliability of the renault and weakness of the rest of the teams is sole reason Alonso won, not his speed. When the Mac broke down, there was no-one to challenge the Renaults.

As for the comments, the reason one constantly read these ramblings in the press is because he constantly gets the question if he is a worthy winner or not, and thus needs to defend himself as it is the way F1 works. Don't think I have ever heard of a driver who does not think he is the fastest.
 
AhmedDimwitson said:
It is certainely interesting how the McLaren is hyped up, especially by Alonso, it might be the fastest car, in the same time it is also the sole reason Kimi did not win the championship as Kimi didn't really make any mistakes. In the same time the reliability of the renault and weakness of the rest of the teams is sole reason Alonso won, not his speed. When the Mac broke down, there was no-one to challenge the Renaults.

As for the comments, the reason one constantly read these ramblings in the press is because he constantly gets the question if he is a worthy winner or not, and thus needs to defend himself as it is the way F1 works. Don't think I have ever heard of a driver who does not think he is the fastest.
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I don't doubt his speed, nor do I doubt Kimi is quicker at the moment, but I think he's needling McLaren there...which is acceptable, bizarrely enough, when done with a touch of deviousness or underhandedness, but distinctly small time when expressed in such a direct, simple fashion. Not a lot of class going on there. There's also the fact that he's put down his own team in public. Now obviously he's playing a game of some sort, but that doesn't change the fact that he's put down his own team in public....and for his own ends. He's messing, but there's a line.

Constantly being asked stupid questions is something for which I do offer my complete sympathies, it's not something I can stand myself....that said, his answer is pathetic. Doesn't matter what games he thinks he's at, he should think more of himself than to say that. That's on record now....and fair enough, he's the World Champion, he can afford to be a bit full of himself, but a bit of class please, play your games, but remember who you are.
 
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