Fergie's interest in Freddy Adu

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Thanks to Gabe for point this out. Thought it deserved its own thread. :)

Man Utd targeting an American soccer prodigy?


Of all the things Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson might have been pondering on April 23 -- how to solve Real Madrid that night in Europe's biggest match of the year to date, whether he should start or bench David Beckham, or how to take the next step in his psychological warfare with Arsenal nemesis Arsene Wenger -- the last thing you'd expect to be on Ferguson's mind was a 13-year-old American soccer player.

Then again, Freddy Adu is not your typical 13-year-old American soccer player.

Let me explain. The day before, as part of a media op with American outlets in advance of Manchester United's four-game U.S. tour in July, Sir Alex was told by a Men's Journal writer, Josh Dean, to "keep an eye" on Adu, the budding star of the U.S. under-17 national team. (Adu was profiled in Sports Illustrated's March 3, 2003 issue.) When we arrived back at Old Trafford on the day of the Man Utd-Real Madrid match, Dean was pulled aside by the Man Utd communications director and put on the phone with ... Sir Alex Ferguson.

The Boss said he had made a call to one of his scouts after hearing the Adu tip, and now he was looking for a phone number so that Man Utd could contact Adu's parents. "I'm very serious about this," Ferguson told Dean.

Though Dean didn't have the number, I volunteered to call Arnold Tarzy, the Adu family's most trusted confidante. And in what is likely to be my first and last foray into the international player market, I passed along Tarzy's number (with his approval) to Man United.

Who knows if anything will come of it? But perhaps something will. Keep in mind, Ferguson first brought Ryan Giggs to the Man United youth team when Giggs was a 13-year-old phenom, too. Yet even if young Freddy never wears the Reds shirt, it's astonishing that he would be on Ferguson's radar just hours before such an important match.
 
Let's hope we get him
Fingers crossed
He could go to antwerp or Lisbon for a couple of years
 
Originally posted by Hawkeye:
<strong>Let's hope we get him
Fingers crossed
He could go to antwerp or Lisbon for a couple of years</strong><hr></blockquote>

The author of that article is a respected Sports Illustrated journie, but its hard to believe that United came to know of him just like that because Adu is already so well known to the US footie public.

There is big demand to see him play in the MLS of course and most believe he will be ready to play by 15, next Summer in other words. The MLS would obviously like to get hold of him; for the exposure and the eventual transfer fee. A european club could make a bigger offer that the MLS but he may prefere to stay closer to home considering his age and the promise of first team football.
Maybe United could sign him and loan him back to the MLS.
He will play in the U17 world championships in Finland in August, impessive considering he turns 14 in June. It will be screened in the US on Galavision the mexican channel, no english broadcast in the US.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>You've seen him then Mathias ? Whats he like ?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I saw him last summer in a tourney in Maryland. Amazing technique, thats for sure. Good eye for goal, amazing dribbling ability. Working with the U-17 team has also helped his passing game quite a bit as well, so that was good.

Still, he is quite young (I think he will turn 14 sometime this month)--although already probably better than almost all of United's Reserve Team players. When his body develops some more (although he is quite strong for a 13/14 year old, you can obviously tell the difference against 19/20 year olds) he will be much better off.
 
Originally posted by Gabe:
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There is big demand to see him play in the MLS of course and most believe he will be ready to play by 15, next Summer in other words.
Maybe United could sign him and loan him back to the MLS.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, according to the responses I got mentioning Robinho playing in the MLS, then posters should make the same statements like 1) MLS is crap, Adu should play in Europe, 2) the defenders are horrendous in the MLS, and 3) he'd get hurt.
 
Thought you guys might like to look at some MLS talent that might move to Europe soon.

<a href="http://soccernet.espn.go.com/feature?id=265853&cc=5901" target="_blank">Ready for the big stage</a>
 
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well....Adu is pretty well known now, not bad for a 13 yr old. The rumours must be true.

If that was how Fergie heard of Adu then our scouting system is a disgrace, even people like me knew about Freddy Adu WAY before the Real Madrid game.
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
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Well, according to the responses I got mentioning Robinho playing in the MLS, then posters should make the same statements like 1) MLS is crap, Adu should play in Europe, 2) the defenders are horrendous in the MLS, and 3) he'd get hurt.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The question is how can Adu best develop? He now trains full time with the U17 team, and they play other national U17s regularily, as well as U19 club teams and older so they get good competition. This is his best option currently living in the US because the MLS teams don't have academies. The MLS would not be a long term option, but when he's got what he can from the youth camp then maybe he could play there until he is old enough to play in europe. It would be a mistake and a waste of talent to stay too long in the MLS, they don't have the coaching or quality that a player like that needs, a year or two max IMO.
Also another factor is how soon could United play him if he were good enough- work permits, etc.
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>well....Adu is pretty well known now, not bad for a 13 yr old. The rumours must be true.

If that was how Fergie heard of Adu then our scouting system is a disgrace, even people like me knew about Freddy Adu WAY before the Real Madrid game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I would think we have known about him for some time.
The english clubs are well aware of the improving youth system in the US- Arsenal and Spurs are believed to be signing up two american kids this summer, neither particularily well known, but both hold EU passports like United's Jonathan Spector.
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
<strong>well....Adu is pretty well known now, not bad for a 13 yr old. The rumours must be true.

If that was how Fergie heard of Adu then our scouting system is a disgrace, even people like me knew about Freddy Adu WAY before the Real Madrid game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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They should just check this site.
 
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Two points of caution:

1. How high a standard exactly is the MLS? Excelling amongst peers in a country still in the backwaters of football at grassroot levels is one thing. Putting one at a higher performing level is the only true way of identifying true talent.

2. At 14, he may be a sensation but let's watch him develop & if he's really good ( many budding talent at 16-17 fade by the time they're 20-21! ), he should still not be rushed into too much action - Ryan Giggs suffered lots of niggling hamstring problems & so does Michael Owen; & didn't prodigy Norman Whiteside, who blazed into World Football at 17, have to retire early because of injury?

It must be more than coincidental that those young bodies, thrown into the heat of battle before their bodies fully developed, subsequently suffered in their careers.
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>Excelling amongst peers in a country still in the backwaters of football at grassroot levels is one thing. Putting one at a higher performing level is the only true way of identifying true talent.</strong><hr></blockquote>

The U.S. isn't Montserrat for god's sake.
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
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Well, according to the responses I got mentioning Robinho playing in the MLS, then posters should make the same statements like 1) MLS is crap, Adu should play in Europe, 2) the defenders are horrendous in the MLS, and 3) he'd get hurt.</strong><hr></blockquote>

There's a huge difference between a Brazilian being sent to MLS versus an American who would be playing in his own country. It would be more attractive for Adu to do so, whereas it might well be a joke to Robinho's friends/family if a Brazlians left the Brazilian league to play in the US, irrespective of whether he was owned by United or not. If we're going to make it attractive to the player then either loan him back to Brazil where he can be at home or else to a European side where he won't be disgraced to his countrymen.
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>Two points of caution:

1. How high a standard exactly is the MLS? Excelling amongst peers in a country still in the backwaters of football at grassroot levels is one thing. Putting one at a higher performing level is the only true way of identifying true talent.

2. At 14, he may be a sensation but let's watch him develop & if he's really good ( many budding talent at 16-17 fade by the time they're 20-21! ), he should still not be rushed into too much action - Ryan Giggs suffered lots of niggling hamstring problems & so does Michael Owen; & didn't prodigy Norman Whiteside, who blazed into World Football at 17, have to retire early because of injury?

It must be more than coincidental that those young bodies, thrown into the heat of battle before their bodies fully developed, subsequently suffered in their careers.</strong><hr></blockquote>


Um the MLS ain't the English Premire League. They now have television beyond a satelite package. FSW carries the matches on Saturday nights here and some of the matches are on national tv. ( ABC I think it is) I think that the fact that Reyna, Friedel, Keller and others have gone to England and other countries to play should tell you something. They realize that they have a better chance at developing with other teams because these teams have proven methods for success. The MLS has not been around that long so what can be developed in terms of their youth, is yet to be seen.

I have to agree with waiting. This kid is probably great and maybe United could sign him and let him stay in the US to develop a bit more. There are any number of possiblities that United could do if they were interested, including sitting back and waiting.
 
Originally posted by kkcbl:
<strong>Two points of caution:

1. How high a standard exactly is the MLS? Excelling amongst peers in a country still in the backwaters of football at grassroot levels is one thing. Putting one at a higher performing level is the only true way of identifying true talent.

2. At 14, he may be a sensation but let's watch him develop & if he's really good ( many budding talent at 16-17 fade by the time they're 20-21! ), he should still not be rushed into too much action - Ryan Giggs suffered lots of niggling hamstring problems & so does Michael Owen; & didn't prodigy Norman Whiteside, who blazed into World Football at 17, have to retire early because of injury?

It must be more than coincidental that those young bodies, thrown into the heat of battle before their bodies fully developed, subsequently suffered in their careers.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree fully, but the average american fans are just taken in by the media buzz and they want to see him play immediately, which means MLS. And that idea is supported by some coaches- the DC United manager said Adu was ready after he trained with them for just a week. And the kid himself wants to turn professional soon, so the idea of guarding against burnout is unfortunetly not foremost.
Personally if he doesn't appear for 2-3 years that would be more realistic, he would be 16-17 by then. But that may be the clincher for any club signing him- how soon will he be able to play. He's been first choice for US U17 at 13, so at that rate he's probably looking to soon be getting in to the U19 at youth level with a club, and then reserves etc.
United have the work permit laws to deal with so when would he be available to play in the first team?
 
Not meant to insult but 'soccer' still has a long way b4 it gains the same kind of attention/fervour in the US as thie Baseball/Basketball/American Football cousins.

There are thousands of youngster playing football throughout, no doubt, but your FA's organisational abilities & infrastructure after college level football is still left much to be desired & 'soccer' in the US has still a long way to go b4 you can say you're with the big boys.

Doing well to reach the Q/F for the first time ever & having a few of your players in European football ( & not really playing for the European Elite clubs ) doesn't mean you've got it made - Korea being a prime parallel example.

4th in the WC which is much further than the USA's progress has ever been, a longer history of playing 'soccer', a few Koreans also playing in the European Leagues, & a nuch better financed & organised infra-structure - & yet even they don't claim to have made it into the Big League & know they've a long way to go!

Like I said, seeing him to be superb is relative, altho' I'm not saying he's not, & I actually hope he does make it, especially if Utd has him in mind as one for the future!
 
i still think we are 8-10 years from being a real power, i think we will struggle in the 2006 world cup (too many players playing in MLS, not raising their game by playing in better leagues)

but at least the younger talents are starting to look more promising (quaranta, edu, beasley, convey)
 
His mother already turned down Inter. He will finish high school and, barring something incredible, he will spend a few more years in the US.

kkcbl:
There are thousands of youngster playing football throughout, no doubt, but your FA's organisational abilities & infrastructure after college level football is still left much to be desired & 'soccer' in the US has still a long way to go b4 you can say you're with the big boys.<hr></blockquote>
The United States actually has millions of youth players, more than any other country on Earth. We may not have the right training yet, but we have the facilities and the numbers.

Top America youth don't go to college; they head straight to MLS. They are playing 'soccer' on a professional level from mid-teens, albeit with more experienced but less talented players.

4th in the WC which is much further than the USA's progress has ever been, a longer history of playing 'soccer', a few Koreans also playing in the European Leagues, & a nuch better financed & organised infra-structure - & yet even they don't claim to have made it into the Big League & know they've a long way to go!<hr></blockquote>
The US has been a semi-finalist before. Korea made it one game further than the US; not to mention Frings' handball and the ridiculous offside call on Donovan in the opening minutes, while Korea only managed to beat Spain on the 4th or 5th try, after getting very lucky against Italy. They were also playing at home.

The United States has a much larger population and far more of an athletic tradition.

beergod:
i still think we are 8-10 years from being a real power, i think we will struggle in the 2006 world cup (too many players playing in MLS, not raising their game by playing in better leagues) <hr></blockquote>
On one hand I agree, but players like Mastroeni, Pope, Beasley, Howard, and McBride play in MLS and have done very well on the international stage. USA had a good showing last year and the team's quality should be even better (but the luck might not be there) in '06.

Don't get me wrong though, I want Adu to leave after a year or two and I think Donovan would've improved his game (but hurt MLS) by going back to Germany after last year. I want to see an American player succeed, really succeed in Europe both to improve the national team and change the perception of American players.
 
The US has been a semi-finalist before <hr></blockquote>

Pardon me, Lawmill but since when? ( Here we're talking about the World Cup Competition, I presume. ) :confused:

But I'm not here to debate whether Korea played better than the US - I was using Korea as a comparision to show that a country which did just as well, if not better than the US, i.e. Korea, & which have a more established & organised system, still cannot consider it's football, let alone League, as amongst the very top-class.

That in no way means I'm disparaging the US Soccer System.
 
1930, but the point stands that Korea is by no means a better team than the US based on this tournament. The teams tied, in Korea's house, with the US leading most of the game. Hugh Dallas screwed the US over in their 1/4 final, whereas the ref simply wouldn't let Spain knock out Korea.

Do they have a more established and organized system? I don't know but I doubt it. The two countries are totally different. I think less organization at the younger ages might be a good thing. U-10s stuck into a rigid 4-4-2 and discouraged from dribbling and trying ball tricks are going to become adults without much style or ball skill, which is what most of the US players over 25 are.

The US has a huge number of youth players. The best of these kids are finally starting to get the 24/7, professional led training that Europeans and South Americans have had for generations. When they hit 15 or 16 they have a 1st division American league to play in, if they're good enough. That's a new development too.

The United States is by no means an Argentina or Holland when it comes to developing young talent, but the youth system has improved dramatically even in the last 3 or 4 years and will continue to improve.
 
After the US defeated Mexico last June, one Italian coach (of the National Team) stated that the Americans had arrived to the world scene and other countries better watch out. He made the comments that the US will continue to improve the youth system and eventually win the World Cup. I can't remember the guys name, but I have read the comments beforehand.
 
Originally posted by ShAoLiN_ChRoNiC:
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If that was how Fergie heard of Adu then our scouting system is a disgrace, even people like me knew about Freddy Adu WAY before the Real Madrid game.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Maybe Fergie was reading the May issue of FourFourTwo, they have a piece about Adu and some other american youngsters; ".. Adu is an unbelievable player. Aged just 13, many claim he can become one of the best players the world has ever seen."
 
On footballtransfers.net they are saying that United have contacted Adu's uncle Tony Yeboah about Adu being a guest at one of United's tour games in the US. They also link him with Inter, Real Madrid and Ajax.
 
Fabulous Freddy Adu

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After helping the United States to advance to the Under-17 World Championship, the fabulous Freddy Adu is being called the next American soccer superstar. Freddy scored two goals and set up another score during three games at a qualifying tournament in Guatemala from March 5 - 9, 2003. In doing so, he became the youngest person to play for a US national soccer team.

"It is almost impossible to find words to describe him. We have never seen the likes of a kid like this in American soccer," says Arnold Trazy, Freddy's former coach and a family friend. Arnold used to coach Freddy Adu on the Potomac Cougars in the Under-14 National Capital Soccer League in Maryland. He says Freddy seems to dance with the ball. "His dribbling is amazing. The only one that I've seen with more dribbling talent in the world right now is Zidane." That might seem like some pretty serious praise for a 13 year-old soccer player but Arnold isn't the only one with such a high opinion of Freddy Adu.

Coaches from the European soccer giant, Inter Milan, were amazed at what they saw when Freddy Adu went to Italy to play for the Olympic Development Team at a youth tournament. Inter Milan offered the Cougars and Freddy's family $750,000 to sign him. But Freddy's family and his coaches said no. They felt Freddy was too young to be signing big money contracts (After all, what could a 13 year-old possibly do with $750,000?)

Freddy is now going to school in Florida where he trains with the Under-17 national team. Some coaches and scouts have compared him to the legendary Pele and Brazilian superstar, Ronaldo. Freddy will undoubtedly be following in their footsteps, as he's expected to play in his first World Cup in 2006 in Germany, when he'll still be just 17.
 
i wish we would unearth another great youngster. and I mean 16 yr old i.e. Owen, Rooney.

Its really exciting to see them emerge.

This guy seems like a sensation considering the big names after him and the amount of press he gets despite being so young.

Anyone got any video clips of him in action?
 
The website link below states Adu is a LW. Hmmm...seems more like a true striker to me...

The average age of his club mates is 13...

<a href="http://www.footballtransfers.info/squads/playerprofile.asp?playerID=8724" target="_blank">Football Transfers List</a>

Any word on this Welsh prodigy?

<a href="http://www.footballtransfers.info/squads/playerprofile.asp?playerID=7676" target="_blank">Matthew Collins</a>
 
Originally posted by MrMarcello:
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The average age of his club mates is 13...

That is because Freddy Adu is the only player on the players list of that team , so they taken his age as the average age ;)
 
As an update to the Adu interest, this is a report of the Dallas Cup from April written by a scouser scout. Its a big international youth tournament, Becks, Raul, Rooney and Raul have all played there. Also Man Utd had their U14 team there so you can be sure Adu has been on their radar for some time.
Anyway some gushing on Adu and Not from an american:

"The hype for the USA was on number 11 Freddy Adu 13 1/2 years old!!. And it's well worth it!! The kid can play. He has to be Brazilian, not from Ghana. He's the type that brings you to your feet... Man Utd's U14's were there and watched the match so let's not let them or Newcastle get this lad.
It took three Newcastle players to get the ball off Adu generally. He had real nice touches and good close control. He turned the 'Castle players left, right and center. They were scared of his pace and dribbling. On one long ball from the back Adu stopped the ball with his left toe, dropped the ball to his feet, turned the Magpies' defender and took off. Excellent move.
I know when Owen and Fowler were young, one could see he would make the big time. The same is true of Freddy Adu. Watch for that name. He can't miss. Facially and upper body he looks like Pele. He just doesn't have the thunder thighs Pele had. Maybe his body will grow. I can see him being Heskey's size. Despite being 5-6 years younger Adu held his own against 19 year olds. He was knocked down some from the stronger lads but that will end as Adu gets a little older. Please tell Ged about Adu for me.If you don't believe me ask the Newcastle lads, they couldn't stop a 13 year old.
...Well, the day after I'll just say Freddy Adu reminds me of Ronaldinho, Owens speed and with Heskey's body. He's got things to work on for sure. He had two Owen style breakaways. One, his shot was stopped by a diving keeper when he tried to chip him. The other, the ball bobbled on him as he was ready to fire and the keeper was able to save because of the lack of power.

Now I sat next to four gentlemen from Hartlepool United who were the coaches of their U16 side. They came specifically to watch Freddy Adu. One of them was called Stephens or Stevens and said he scored in the Kop end whilst playing for Millwall in 87 or 88 in a 1-1 match - anyway he raved about Adu and couldn't believe the ball skills and dribbling Adu had for a 13 year old. He said it's uncanny that Adu can dribble, go past older players and get his passes into good area's and find other players. Not to mention that he's got a bit of a shot. And he's playing against good competition in the U-19’s.

In 35 matches Adu's scored 22 goals with 11 assists for the U17's. He's a midfielder who when I watched went down the left a lot beating the right backs. So there's our left side problem fixed then - the USA's U17 coach believes Adu could play for the U20's. Again he's 13!!!!!

<a href="http://www.redandwhitekop.net/article.php?sid=578" target="_blank"> Full Dallas cup article</a>
 
I heard that Adu's parents had stopped him signing for a few clubs already saying they didnt want him moving away and they want him to finish his education. I have seen a few videos of some goals he has scored and he looks a very good prospect but i would like to see him up against some more experienced opponents and see how he gets on. One to watch though...
 
Adu has signed a deal with Nike worth about 1million and has also got professional representation with Richard Motzkin and Dan Segal of SportsNet who already handle Landon Donavan. He turns 14 on June 2nd!

<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39166-2003May25.html" target="_blank">link</a>
 
Originally posted by Gutsy:
<strong>I heard that Adu's parents had stopped him signing for a few clubs already saying they didnt want him moving away and they want him to finish his education. I have seen a few videos of some goals he has scored and he looks a very good prospect but i would like to see him up against some more experienced opponents and see how he gets on. One to watch though...</strong><hr></blockquote>

u got a link for his goals?