FERGIE: Vieira would rather be with united

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SIR ALEX FERGUSON has taunted Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger yet again by claiming Patrick Vieira would prefer to be playing for Manchester United.

United tried to sign Vieira last season but the Highbury board refused to let their inspirational French midfielder go and blocked the move.

But Old Trafford boss Fergie could not resist another pre-season swipe at Wenger by insisting Vieria would love to be pulling on the red of United rather than Arsenal.

Ferguson said: "They would all like to come here. Patrick Vieira would love to have come here last year but they wouldn't let him.

"Players will always want to go to a bigger club. That's life.

"There is no player in this country who wouldn't want to play for Manchester United.

"We are, without question, the highest profile team in the world. We have the best discipline record in the country. We score the most goals. We entertain the most. And we put more into winning a game than any other team in the world.

"I am lucky. I am working for the best club in the world."

Fergie, who mocked Wenger's claims of a power shift in English football following Arsenal's Double triumph, is clearly desperate to score some pyschological points before this year's big kick-off and restore United as the dominant force after last season's trophy- less campaign.

The Scot added: "Once you are successful you say, `Thank God people are giving us stick because then we know we're the best'.

"There's a price to pay for being the best and we pay it."
 
The Scot added: "Once you are successful you say, `Thank God people are giving us stick because then we know we're the best'.

"There's a price to pay for being the best and we pay it."
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According to Fergie's rules Arsenal must be pretty successful at the moment or he wouldn't be giving them so much stick.
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Duh!

Of course he is, they just won the double and we won feck-all!

He said last season that they absolutely deserved it and this season he's trying, as he always does, to get under the gooners skin.

Go on Fergie. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />

So everybody wants to play for you lot now then, or so Fergie thinks......

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Only the shit players that can't have the guts to play for United go to the Poos and the rest... end of the line.
 
Shall we start a list of player who don't want to play for you lot?

I'll go first.


Shearer.
 
Originally posted by Nate:
<strong>Shall we start a list of player who don't want to play for you lot?

I'll go first.


Shearer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Shearer wasn't let join utd even if he wanted to fact utd were willing to break the bank to sign him hasn't been much of a loss we didn't get him
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Originally posted by Nate:
<strong>Shall we start a list of player who don't want to play for you lot?

I'll go first.


Shearer.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I never wanted Shearer when he left Southampton, and even less when he left Blackburn.
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Originally posted by Nate:
<strong>Shall we start a list of player who don't want to play for you lot?

I'll go first.


Shearer.</strong><hr></blockquote>


he wanted to play for us...but jack walker wasn't having any of it.


next..
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Ferguson said: "They would all like to come here. Patrick Vieira would love to have come here last year but they wouldn't let him. </strong>

So he admits Vieira is better than Keane :confused:
And how could he know that without talking to player which isn't allowed if the club doesn't let him talk?

<strong>"Players will always want to go to a bigger club. That's life. </strong>

So that's why Vieira was linked to Real Madrid, OK.

<strong> "We are, without question, the highest profile team in the world. </strong>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Real Madrid anyone?

<strong> We have the best discipline record in the country. </strong>

Oops, I tried to find some facts to back up this, however I found out Man Utd didn't have the best discipline record, can't remember who had it though.

Funny guy this man isn't he!
 
Originally posted by Theobald:
<strong>Marcus Babbel

Laurent Blanc</strong><hr></blockquote>

Babbel - knew he wasn't good enough to get regular first team action with Stam, Johnsen, Irwin etc on the scene?
Blanc - has admitted recently he should have joined years ago.

(this isn't a very long list, is it?)
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Originally posted by ET:
<strong>Oops, I tried to find some facts to back up this, however I found out Man Utd didn't have the best discipline record, can't remember who had it though.
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:rolleyes:

Then tell me plz, why we've won the fair play trophy the last season.
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Originally posted by ET:
Ferguson said: "They would all like to come here. Patrick Vieira would love to have come here last year but they wouldn't let him."

So he admits Vieira is better than Keane!<hr></blockquote>How the feck do you get 'Fergie thinks Paddy is better than Keane' from that?

Kinell.

:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by ET:
<strong>Oops, I tried to find some facts to back up this, however I found out Man Utd didn't have the best discipline record, can't remember who had it though.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Does that sound convincing to you? "oh hey I want to prove you wrong, so I looked up some facts somewhere, it said that you're wrong somewhere, but I can't remember who had it (somewhere), so there I proved you wrong."
If you're trying to argue and be witty, you need to try a bit harder.
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Gotta love Sir Alex....He gets under the skin of the other team fans and managers....in particular Wenger Boy.

Of course, if Sir alex wants to rattle Houllier, he has got to learn to eye-ball....

Still waiting for that list....
 
Originally posted by Due South:
<strong>Gotta love Sir Alex....He gets under the skin of the other team fans and managers....in particular Wenger Boy.
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I'm afraid all evidence points to it being the other way round.
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The only "evidence" backing up Alex is his own words. What do the players say? And I do think he's getting a bit worried about the new stadium Arsenal is building. Another year of success, the stadium, and a London location would definately make the Gooners more attractive than ManUnited for foreign talent.
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
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ALL evidence?</strong><hr></blockquote>

All the incidents I can think of have been Fergie losing his rag at Wenger.
The classic example being the "every man thinks he has the most beautiful wife" comment which led to a phone call by Fergie to check he wasn't talking about Cathy.
I think the whole mid games thing is overrated, but I do think Wenger's better at them than Fergie.
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Sorry, Ferguson didn't directly say he thinks Vieira is better than Keane but that was the first thing I thought after reading the text. Anyway, he wanted to have Vieira (I suppose he wouldn't have been cheap) and I don't think he planned to play Keane&Vieira together or buy Vieira as back up for Keane.

I checked the stats from OptaStats ( :rolleyes: yeah I know but I don't think even that site is that bad) and there's the table (top 5):

Team Fouls Yellow Red

Tottenham 514,59,5
Aston Villa 556,44,2
Ipswich 520,44,1
Man United 490,53,1
Liverpool 471,41,3

Sorry, I realize I wasn't convincing earlier but I was in hurry and that wasn't the only thing on my mind.
 
<a href="http://www.manutd.com/news/fullstory.sps?iNewsID=16126&itype=&iCategoryID=" target="_blank">United win fair play price</a>
 
Anypne who turned down United regreated it. and no one now would turn down united. look at Rio!
 
What is that prize :confused:

"The Reds have won the £30,000 prize for the third time in the last four seasons after accruing the greatest number of points in various categories - positive play, respect towards opponent, respect towards the referee, behaviour of officials - with the number of red and yellow cards also taken into account."

How do anyone can say anything about "positive play, respect towards opponent, respect towards the referee, behaviour of officials"? Just can't realize how they work that out, if someone can enlighten me please do :)
 
Keano is a much better player than Vieira if Fergie bought Vieira then he would have played him alongside keano. <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
So Keane must be very much better than anyone Vieira would have replaced (Butt, Scholes, was Veron already at Man Utd)? I don't think SAF would've played with two defensive midfielders in the centre. Then again I don't follow Man Utd that closely so can't remember if Keane&Butt play often together.

And that thing about Vieira being better than Keane, it just was the first conclusion coming to my mind after reading those quotes.
 
Keane and Butt play alot alongside each other, keane is the best, he will show everyone that next season <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" />
 
Originally posted by ET:
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How do anyone can say anything about "positive play, respect towards opponent, respect towards the referee, behaviour of officials"? Just can't realize how they work that out, if someone can enlighten me please do :) </strong><hr></blockquote>

It's probably the referees giving the teams points after each match.
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Originally posted by ET:
<strong>So Keane must be very much better than anyone Vieira would have replaced (Butt, Scholes, was Veron already at Man Utd)? I don't think SAF would've played with two defensive midfielders in the centre. Then again I don't follow Man Utd that closely so can't remember if Keane&Butt play often together.

And that thing about Vieira being better than Keane, it just was the first conclusion coming to my mind after reading those quotes.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Keane and Vieira would both have played. No way would Fergie drop Keano.

As for Veron: Fergie wanted Veron or Vieira. One was available, one wasn't. Who was the first choice we'll never know.
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<a href="http://freeserve.football365.com/mediastore/Story_Images/Competitions/ABU_story.gif" target="_blank">Check out the pettion NOT to join MU</a>

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Babbel payed ofr not comming to OT. we won the treble against his team and we keep winning the league when he plays for Liverpool.


Arsenal will pay this season for keeping Vierra from where he wants to be. Just you wait. He will refuse to sign a new contract next season.

Shearer will never win anything. Just payment for turning down the best club in the World.

Zidane. He was to weak to stand up to his wife. He wil also pay soon :D <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />

Ronaldo. If it wasn't for the board real would not even compete with us for him


Name another player who hasn't come yet?? :p
 
Originally posted by Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber:
<strong>Babbel payed ofr not comming to OT. we won the treble against his team and we keep winning the league when he plays for Liverpool.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Since Babbel arrived you have lost every game against us <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" />
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Originally posted by E'roacho:
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Since Babbel arrived you have lost every game against us <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

and won every championship he's involved in, I know which I'd prefer. :D
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I simply can`t let ET`s misinformation pass without question. I am talking about the Real Madrid point.

Sir Alex was talking about the club team with the `highest profile in the world`. He was not talking about the most successful team club in the world. If he was, it has to be admitted that Real Madrid`s European championship record alone far surpasses Manchester United`s.

Kindly inform us where in the world all kinds of people wear t shirts, replica shirts (fake or otherwise) with Real Madrid`s name? People have been sighted in Burma, deepest Africa, the Middle East for starters, not to mention the other world countries wearing Manchester United colours.

In Australia, many people who don`t follow `soccer` know Manchester United is that world famous football team. In the USA ditto. In the Near East, Middle East, Far East etc. In South America, yes, even thre despite the fact that Real Madrid should be bigger given Spain`s historic links with South America.

The proof of which club is the most high profile and famous comes from when those who do not follow this footballing code know the name of Manchester United and can identify some of its players.

In most countries if you mention Real Madrid, it would not be unusual for people to stare blankly. Likewise for the names Raoul, Figo, the second named player tending to be mistaken for a brand of biscuit. Yet the name of Manchester United can be recognised transnationally.

ET is biased and of course we Red Devils are biased. But regarding high profiles, don`t give us the nonsense that Real Madrid are the most high profile football club in the world. Outside of Europe their name has little resonance, and is unknown by most.
 
Slight correction - outside of Europe and South America. But the point remains the same. Nobody could credibly claim that Real Madrid have the highest profile of any football club in the world.
That is as accurate as saying Manchester City are a `massive club`. <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" /> <img src="graemlins/devil.gif" border="0" alt="[Devil]" />
 
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